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Yes, Trystane is the only child of Doran and heir to Dorne. It is indeed stupid. Given how much potential there was for Dorne in the books, the show has cut down on it significantly.

And I know you're more than likely right about Vic, but they've made reference to Theon's uncles in the past, so I wouldn't be at all surprised if we got an extra one on top of Euron.

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Don't recall that happening in the show. Melisandre doesn't really get much characterisation other than "evil fire slut" in the show when she's actually a pretty sympathetic and layered character in the book.

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So, anyone else seen the preview for Episode Ten? One part really caught my eye. Obvious episode spoilers within the tags, since they discuss said preview:

Benjen Stark gets a big shoutout, and it basically recalls his whole plotline from the first season. These previews are fairly in-your-face with foreshadowing; Hardhome's preview had a big thing about Jon's sword being made of Valyrian Steel, for example. Are we potentially going to be dipping into Winds of Winter territory here?

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I really hope that the show doesn't reveal any plot points and is an entirely new direction. It'd be a shame to reveal spoilers in a TV show where the universe isn't nearly as detailed.

One thing is for sure, he needs to get the Winds of Winter out before season 6 airs!

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I really hope that the show doesn't reveal any plot points and is an entirely new direction. It'd be a shame to reveal spoilers in a TV show where the universe isn't nearly as detailed.

One thing is for sure, he needs to get the Winds of Winter out before season 6 airs!

Yeah, I really hope everything new that's been revealed this season is not what GRRM wrote for Winds of Winter.

Is Dany in the teaser for episode 10? Her riding off on Drogon is the last thing that happened to her in Dance of Dragons, right?

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I really hope that the show doesn't reveal any plot points and is an entirely new direction. It'd be a shame to reveal spoilers in a TV show where the universe isn't nearly as detailed.

One thing is for sure, he needs to get the Winds of Winter out before season 6 airs!

Yeah, I really hope everything new that's been revealed this season is not what GRRM wrote for Winds of Winter.

Is Dany in the teaser for episode 10? Her riding off on Drogon is the last thing that happened to her in Dance of Dragons, right?

The last we heard of her was her wandering the Dothraki sea struggling to survive before she runs into Khal Jhaqo and his khalasar.

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The preview for the episode on DirecTV mentions Dany though. I think it's something like ".. Danaerys struggles around new people" or something like that.

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is there anywhere that nicely lists all of Mel's prophetic visions/speeches? Could be fun to look over them.

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  • 11 months later...

Bringing this back up because GRRM read some of Winds of Winter at Balticon last week. 

In particular, he read an Aeron Damphair chapter that hasn't been released on his website, but has been transcribed by fans. Deadspin's sub-blog The Concourse has a write-up of it. These are all excerpts from it posted on The Concourse:

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Aeron Damphair looked. The mound of skulls was gone. Now it was metal underneath the Crow’s Eye. A great, tall seat of razor-sharp iron of barbs and blades and broken swords, all dripping blood. Impaled upon the longer spikes were the bodies of the gods. The Maiden was there, and the Father, and the Mother and the Warrior and Crone and Smith, even the Stranger. They hung side by side with all manner of queer, foreign gods, The Great Shephard and the Black Goat, Three Headed Trios and the Pale Child Bakkalon, the Lord of Light, and the Butterfly God of Naath, and there swollen in green heft devoured by crabs, the Drowned God festered with the Red Sea Horse, still dripping from its hair.

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It was in the second dungeon that the other holy men began to appear, to share his torment. Three wore the robes of septons of the greenlands, and one, the red garment of a priest of R’Hllor. The last was hardly recognizable as a man. Both his hands had been burned down to the bone and his face was a charred and blackend horror where two blind eyes moved sightlessly above the cracked cheeks, dripping puss. He was dead within hours of being shackeled to the wall, but the mutes left his body there to ripen for three days afterwards. Last, were two warlocks of the East, with flesh as white as mushrooms and lips the purplish-blue of a bad bruise, both so gaunt and starved that only skin and bones remained. One had lost his legs. The mutes had hung him from a rafter.

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When Euron came again, his hair was swept straight back from his brow, and his lips were so blue that they were almost black. He had put aside his driftwood crown. In its place he wore an iron crown who’s points were made from the teeth of sharks.

“That which is dead cannot die,” said Aeron fiercely. “For he has tasted death once that he never fear again. He was drowned but he came forth once more with steel and fire.”

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The dreams were even worse the second time. He saw the longships of the Ironborn adrift and burning on a boiling, bloodred sea. He saw his brother on the Iron Throne again, but Euron was no longer human. He seemed more squid than man, a monster fathered by a kraken of the deep, his face a mass of writhing tentacles. Beside him stood a shadow in woman’s form, long and tall and terrible, her hands alive with pale white fire. Dwarves capered for their amusement, male and female, locked in carnal, biting and tearing at each other as Euron and his mate laughed and laughed and laughed.

Aeron dreamed of drowning, too. What was the bliss that surely followed down in the Drowned God’s watery halls, it was the terror that even the faithful feel as the water fills their mouth and nose and lungs they cannot draw breath.

 

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Euron claims he has a full set of Valyrian steel armor, Aeron's locked away in a dungeon being fed hallucinogenics, and Aeron's having insane visions during these trips of horrible beasts being summoned from below the seas. At one point in his visions, Aeron sees what seems to be Euron literally killing a god.

 

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