International Weekend

[lanky316]

Of course he does, he's playing for the result, of course he'll get lucky since if we win we've won it doesn't matter how bad we play and if we draw people will harp on about how unlucky we were after Becks was dismissed.

Hier kommt das wunderbar óstereich!

[Turbo Yannis]

Richardson for Owen?

King for Joe Cole?

...Does Sven even know what he's doing?

[public enemy]

If Austria were to score, England would currently have no chance of coming back given the substitutions they've made.

Crouch up front by himself and a packed defense protecting a one goal lead, doesn't seem like the way England should be playing to me.

[ravenjuice]

I'v enver visited this forum in my year and a bit that i've been on ewb, but i need to rant. ugh.

Sven needs to go. You cannot defend his substitutions. Taking cole out after beckham was sent off eliminated any width we had, and took the feet out from beneath our midfield.

Putting richardson on for owen was silly too, owen is more likely to do something than crouch. Crouch isnt mobile enough to be left alone up front.

The referree needs shooting. The second penalty that never was was a clear penalty, moreso than the one that was given. As for beckhams offences? pfft. The first one i can let him off on, but the second one was a joke.

Brings me to another point about sven, why is he sticking with becks? He hasnt put in a good england performance since 2002. He constantly drifts into the centre which is not where he has been asked to play, and as a result he's making us weaker.

We play far too defensive before Beckham went. Any one would think we were playing rugby, the ball was constantly being played backwards.

Watch them equalise in the last minute.

[lanky316]

If Austria were to score, England would currently have no chance of coming back given the substitutions they've made.

Crouch up front by himself and a packed defense protecting a one goal lead, doesn't seem like the way England should be playing to me.

[Turbo Yannis]

If Austria were to score, England would currently have no chance of coming back given the substitutions they've made.

Crouch up front by himself and a packed defense protecting a one goal lead, doesn't seem like the way England should be playing to me.

[public enemy]

1-0, the final result. England were unlucky to lose Beckham but very lucky to get the points given the way they've played.

EDIT: And Turbo, see ravenjuice's comments for my feelings on the whole substitution situation, they basically echo my own. As a gamble, it worked but given the resources that England have it was hardly a gamble they absolutley had to take. I'd much prefer to kill the game off with another goal, something a player like Owen could no doubt achieve on the break, than hold out for the last 15 minutes to much weaker opposition.

Edited October 8, 2005 by public enemy

[lanky316]

4 shocking performances in a row (can't remember the game before Denmark) but we're now maybe only hours away from qualifying for the world cup and Sven'll be saved once again.

[Dan]

Two bookable offences in as many minutes? He should've gone and did although I suspected the referee may well bottle it but surprisingly didn't.

You fucking suck.

[Summers]

Beckham deserved to go, oh well.

[ravenjuice]

Two bookable offences in as many minutes? He should've gone and did although I suspected the referee may well bottle it but surprisingly didn't.

You fucking suck.

[public enemy]

So...Anyone watching Ireland/Cyprus?

[lanky316]

Two bookable offences in as many minutes? He should've gone and did although I suspected the referee may well bottle it but surprisingly didn't.

You fucking suck.

[ravenjuice]

Two bookable offences in as many minutes? He should've gone and did although I suspected the referee may well bottle it but surprisingly didn't.

You fucking suck.

Quoted for emphasis.

[Summers]

The second one, like it or not, Beckham caught the guy. We all saw it. Don't deny it.

[ravenjuice]

I never said he didnt, i said he barely touched him. It was not a bookable offence.

[Face Turn!~]

The second one, like it or not, Beckham caught the guy. We all saw it. Don't deny it.

Edited October 8, 2005 by Face Turn!~

[Summers]

He caught him, that's why he went down. Beckham pulled out of the challenge, BUT his second leg caught him, which is when he went down.

[The Kraig]

I thought Beckham got raped.

#1: Jumped fairly, Austrian dove. Yellow carded.

#2: Looked like he stumbled or slipped, because he tried to stop and took the guy down with a tiny clip, clearly accidental. Yellow card. Red card.

I can see why both could have been marginal yellow cards (elbows are dnagerous, Austrain MAY have had a shot on goal brewing) but for the first he should have got a second opinion from the linesman (since he was in no position to see if an arm stuck the Austrian) and for the second I'd have just given the free kick. It's in a very dangerous area, it was obviously accidental and he'd just been harshly booked right before.

Bah. I suppose I'm going to have to support England again in the World Cup (I'm half-English). I'm pretty sure Scotland'll make it into Euro '08 though.

[Kanegetshighbysmellinhisarmpits]

Can we all agree that Beckham deserved to be sent off? And that we should drop him, stick Shaun Wright-Phillips on the right and give the captaincy to John Terry. Yes Sven has absolutely no idea what he is doing, as much as I like Crouch, he should have left Owen on his own up front. Anyone who thinks that we are going to win the world cup should visit a mental institution.