The Mafia Discussion Thread

[Noah]

I never surrendered.

I escaped with the survivors or Oceanic Flight 815 or something.

[R.W.]

Oceanic Flight 815? The one that burst into flames killing everybody on board instantly? That sucks.

[Noah]

I make lousy choices in life.

Targeting Ace at night, is one of those and one that I wont repeat again in a hurry.

[EddieG]

I'm sure there are survivors of Flight 815!

[Molly]

I'm sure there are survivors of Flight 815!

yeah they could be lost somewhere

[The Mask of Norro]

Sean, you should make an American Psycho Mafia after this. I've got a good feeling about it

[Sousa]

Lost is for queers.

[SeanDMan]

See, you say that, but you like Pokemon so your opinion of quality is easily dismissed.

[Sousa]

I'm re-reading it now and I think we can safely conclude that Mafia on EWB has been all downhill since Desmond Pfeiffer Mafia.

[Ace]

False. Mafia has been going downhill since GoGo left

There was suppose to be one other person I could say had been playing for as long and as much as I have. Now there's none :'(

[Noah]

It's going to be an interesting few days now that NBA has also ended.

2 new games will be up soon and my game-running debut will be drawing ever closer.

Is it normal to get so nervous?

[Ace]

Yes.

Like I said though, mine isn't going to be able to run for at least a few weeks. Once I've got the net settled in my new place, I'll be ready to go. Til then, whoever is next (after me and Norro) can go.

[EddieG]

So that's Zan and Pleather .. anybody seen Zan lately? Or have I just not been looking properly?

[Noah]

Am I the only one that thinks LCS's game could very well be awesome?

[Benjamin]

Primiership Mafia? Depends, what would the mafia consist of? Foreign league players? Former players? Transfer disasters? Chris Hero?

[Guest Mr. Potato Head]

So something bothered me about NBA Mafia, and I didn't want to mention it at the time because it might seem like I was trying to get an unfair advantage for my mafia.

At one point, the mafia was discussing intentionally letting the game go to sunset and getting a townie lynched that way. woc jumped in to say that bad things would happen if we tried to use his lynch rules to our advantage.

But why? The way I see it, a lynch is the town's primary weapon (a nightkill being the mafia's). If people can't come together on a lynch target, that's just proof that the mafia have been doing a good job, why should they lose one of their own for that? That's why I like killing a random townie at deadline...it punishes the town, who should be controlling the lynch, and not the mafia, who shouldn't.

[wrathofcarnage]

I didn't want you to use the sunset rule as a game mechanic because I was using it as an activity booster. I wanted to use it to establish I wasn't messing around with deadlines and wanted to keep activity flowing. I was merely saying that intentionally stagnating discussion to hit a deadline and making those intentions clear in a thread where I could see them might not have been the best idea in the world. It was never really established WHAT I would do if a game hit the final deadline and the assumption of "random townie death" makes "deadlining" a viable scum tactic, which I don't believe in. I think hitting a deadline should be just as dangerous for a scum player which is why I would have done something like "random player (any alignment)" or (more likely) a "Draft Lottery" of the least active players.

So it wasn't meant as a threat, moreso a warning that you shouldn't tell me you are working to actively stop discussion because you assume you know how I'm running a deadline/sunset rule. Although I guess even then I shouldn't have intervened and said anything because that warning could be construed as giving you an unfair advantage. I guess really I just got put off by someone suggesting stopping activity as a strategy so I was perhaps out of line with putting that comment out there. I see your point and I'll take it into account the next time I run a game.

[Sousa]

So the key is to secretly deadline the game if you're scum. Got it. (Y)

[DMN in the House]

Stopping discussion is a valid scum tactic. Daytime is for the town, and if they allow the scum to do it, then it's on them.

[Guest Mr. Potato Head]

I didn't want you to use the sunset rule as a game mechanic because I was using it as an activity booster. I wanted to use it to establish I wasn't messing around with deadlines and wanted to keep activity flowing. I was merely saying that intentionally stagnating discussion to hit a deadline and making those intentions clear in a thread where I could see them might not have been the best idea in the world. It was never really established WHAT I would do if a game hit the final deadline and the assumption of "random townie death" makes "deadlining" a viable scum tactic, which I don't believe in. I think hitting a deadline should be just as dangerous for a scum player which is why I would have done something like "random player (any alignment)" or (more likely) a "Draft Lottery" of the least active players.

So it wasn't meant as a threat, moreso a warning that you shouldn't tell me you are working to actively stop discussion because you assume you know how I'm running a deadline/sunset rule. Although I guess even then I shouldn't have intervened and said anything because that warning could be construed as giving you an unfair advantage. I guess really I just got put off by someone suggesting stopping activity as a strategy so I was perhaps out of line with putting that comment out there. I see your point and I'll take it into account the next time I run a game.

Meh. Norro and LCS tried the same thing in EWB Mafia, and I didn't really like it, thought it was a bit too underhanded, but I wouldn't have punished them for it.