Sons of Anarchy, The Final Season **SPOILERS**

[Nerf]

You speak as if Unser was being dealt a favor and his cancer wasn't at the writer's convience for seven seasons.

I don't see how a Jax suicide is the only way versus a Jax getting what was coming to him.

Because poetry.

[Gabriel]

Jax committing suicide like his father probably did is a poetic way to end the show... but that ending would have been good in season 3 or 4. After everything that's happened, it feels like a cop out. I'm sure it was Sutter's intention to end it that way from the beginning (of when he decided the show would last past Jax taking out Clay), but it's not the way it should have ended after the latter seasons.

[Draevyn]

I enjoyed the finale, and it definitely resonated with me because of the connection I've made to the Jax character over the past seven years... however, this show started out as a show about redemption and the sins of the father. Around the time of Opie's death, it became less about that, and more about just being violent and shocking.

We basically just watched seven seasons of a man trying to fix what his step-father destroyed after usurping control of it from his biological father... only to wind up becoming the same monster that Clay was, and the same monster that JT probably had turned into.

Yeah, it's poetic that they've dropped hints that maybe Gemma and Clay never killed him to begin with. The idea is there that John Teller took his own life because he was ashamed of what he and his club had become, and didn't want to see his boy grow up to be just like him. It's a great little subplot that added some weight to the finale as Jax made the very same decision... but it came too late. We went from wanting to see the redemption of Jax Teller and Samcro, to having to either just enjoy the carnage or try to defend his actions.

If the story had only lasted up to Jax taking control of the club... or if he had actually managed to fix things... or if he just didn't become a villain... the show would have been a future classic. As it stands, the period from Opie's death-onward tarnished the legacy of the show and was unnecessary, despite giving us some great moments and performances (especially Mr. Walton Goggins).

Pretty sure that's the whole basis of the show. A man who sets out to fix what has been destroyed and becomes the exact monster he's fighting against.

[Gabriel]

I enjoyed the finale, and it definitely resonated with me because of the connection I've made to the Jax character over the past seven years... however, this show started out as a show about redemption and the sins of the father. Around the time of Opie's death, it became less about that, and more about just being violent and shocking.

We basically just watched seven seasons of a man trying to fix what his step-father destroyed after usurping control of it from his biological father... only to wind up becoming the same monster that Clay was, and the same monster that JT probably had turned into.

Yeah, it's poetic that they've dropped hints that maybe Gemma and Clay never killed him to begin with. The idea is there that John Teller took his own life because he was ashamed of what he and his club had become, and didn't want to see his boy grow up to be just like him. It's a great little subplot that added some weight to the finale as Jax made the very same decision... but it came too late. We went from wanting to see the redemption of Jax Teller and Samcro, to having to either just enjoy the carnage or try to defend his actions.

If the story had only lasted up to Jax taking control of the club... or if he had actually managed to fix things... or if he just didn't become a villain... the show would have been a future classic. As it stands, the period from Opie's death-onward tarnished the legacy of the show and was unnecessary, despite giving us some great moments and performances (especially Mr. Walton Goggins).

Pretty sure that's the whole basis of the show. A man who sets out to fix what has been destroyed and becomes the exact monster he's fighting against.

This show wasn't meant to last seven seasons. There's a very visible shift in direction from "Jax saves his club". It's incredibly easy to tell where it was determined the show would go beyond the necessary time that Sutter needed to tell his story, and it's quite obvious that while the ending of the series was probably what he intended from the outset, the time it took to get there took away all sympathy for the Jax character, which lessens the impact that the ending should have had.

[EndOfAnEra]

For season 7, I reeeeeeeeeally would've preferred it if

Jax had killed Jury earlier, thereby cutting out a bunch of the spinning of the wheels they did early on. Jax kills Jury, finds out his mom killed Tara, and goes on the run from all the other SOA charters. Season finale/second last ep, he wraps up Baroski and Marks, finds Gemma and kills her, then meets an actual Mr. Mayhem from the other Presidents.

Also can we talk without spoiler tags yet?

[fourstarfizzle]

Unser wasn't dead! You clearly see him breathing in the shot that pans across him when the cops are at the house. New series coming soon, Sons of Unser.

[MalaCloudy Black]

Waynes of Anarchy.

[Monkey D. Lars]

Even with the problems the last seasons, I still enjoyed the ride. Going to miss this one.

[fourstarfizzle]

Waynes of Anarchy.

I'm still of the believe Unser is actually Charlie Utter from Deadwood, he lives forever.

[Ruki]

Just watched the 4th episode of this season....holy shit. This is getting violent.

[EndOfAnEra]

I'm re watching a few episodes here and there. I can't believe I never noticed how bad the special effects are.

[apsham]

Hey hey.

Song rights for Katy Sagal aren't cheap.

[Ruki]

Episode 7...

Bobby

[Draevyn]

Episode 7...

Bobby

That sucked!

[Ruki]

Episode 7...

Bobby

That sucked!

Episode 9....

BOBBY!

Only 4 more episodes to go. Jeeze.

[Draevyn]

Episode 7...

Bobby

That sucked!

Episode 9....

BOBBY!

Only 4 more episodes to go. Jeeze.

There shall be more of those for you over the next 4.

[Monkey D. Lars]

Episode 7...

Bobby

That sucked!

Episode 9....

BOBBY!

Only 4 more episodes to go. Jeeze.

There shall be more of those for you over the next 4.

[Ruki]

....the end of episode 10. Oh fuck.

Shit's about to go down.

(Sadly, I know one of the major spoilers...my mom spoiled it)

[Ruki]

Episode 12. Fuck me. That was so much worse than I thought it would be, even with the spoiler....what the fuck. My heart. WHY AM I WATCHING THIS SHOW?!

Didn't know about Juice or Wayne. Fuck. That was hard. Even with knowing Gemma was going to die, I was on the verge of tears...that scene.

[MalaCloudy Black]

That reminds me. (RUKI: SPOILERS FOR THE SERIES FINALE.)

Thinking about it, almost everyone gets to go on their own terms, don't they? Juice gets to get everything off his chest and gets killed by Tully, who seemed almost remorseful at what he had to do. Unser had to know the minute he decided to chase down Gemma that he wasn't getting out of the whole thing alive, and he gets to go out trying to protect the woman he's loved since childhood.

Even Gemma gets to dictate the terms of her death, in the garden of her father's house. And Jax, rather than being killed by Chibs as was supposed to happen, gets to leave the club and go on a huge police chase that ultimately ends with him committing suicide. It feels like every main character death this season has been set up in such a way that they got to dictate the terms of their demise, which, to be honest - I kind of dislike. I don't know if it's intentional or if it's Kurt Sutter trying to give fan-favorite characters satisfying deaths, but death isn't satisfying and you very rarely get to choose the terms in which you go out. Ah well, that's TV I guess.