EWR 2014 Stats Update: February ***PLEASE USE SPOILER TAGS***

[jupiterhill]

I think their point is he is still with NJPW and until he shows up at AJPW he should stay in New Japan.

I do agree on the gimmicks though. If they are in the game it doesn't matter if they are retired or not I think gimmicks should be updated because they could always come back.

[kaya]

Give TAKA Michinoku a Touring Commitment with AJPW.

Unless it's changed recently, TAKA tours with NJPW.

EDIT: Or are they not in the game?

I believe he recently announced he was leaving New Japan at the end of his current run.

True, but I think Crack Fox Penn's point is he currently wrestles for NJPW and not for AJPW, who he has not appeared for at all in AJPW and for whom he is not scheduled to appear either.

TNA Spoiler

The Wolves are the new TNA World Tag Team Champions

Make Takeshi Rikio's gimmick Foreign Star

Make Takehiro Murahama's gimmick No Gimmick Needed

Make Shadow WX's gimmick Extremist.

Both Rikio and Murahma are retired, so whether or not to be assigned gimmicks is debateable.

On the TAKA front, TAKA said he was LEAVING New Japan. (I got this from Luchablog going into FantasticaMania 2014)

WHY on the Rikio and Murahama gimmicks? The main thing with the game is the guise of "wrestlers could return."

So if someone says they're going to retire in two months do you set them to retired today? I assumed the understanding was you wait for something to happen before making the change. Who knows, NJPW might offer TAKA a new better deal to stay? Or he could leave from April 1. Either way personally I think he should stay with NJPW until it's clear he has no more dates.

Ignoring the issue of whether he should be removed from NJPW now when he will not leave the company until April, why would he be assigned to AJPW? He never said he was joining AJPW, AJPW hasn't said he was joining, and he hasn't appeared there at all in 2014 (and only like 3 or 4 times the past two years). That's the really important part, and I thought the reason why the objection was raised in the first place. It's like saying, Rey Jr's contract runs out next month, add him to TNA. There's no logic or reason there at all. When I read the comment originally my first assumption was, 'this person is confusing NJPW with AJPW.'

RE: Rikio, he's not going to return... he retired due to a serious neck injury, which means he can't wrestle at risk of paralyzing himself I would assume (he's also over 40 years old).

Murahama, I get it's possible he could come back at some point, though he is pushing forty and hasn't wrestled regularly for nearly a decade so hence my assumption he had 'left the business'... especially since he was not known to have retired due to injuries. But yeah it's not impossible for him to return due to health reasons or something, so yeah I guess if you want to give retired people gimmicks then he could have one.

[mkpunk]

Give TAKA Michinoku a Touring Commitment with AJPW.

Unless it's changed recently, TAKA tours with NJPW.

EDIT: Or are they not in the game?

I believe he recently announced he was leaving New Japan at the end of his current run.

True, but I think Crack Fox Penn's point is he currently wrestles for NJPW and not for AJPW, who he has not appeared for at all in AJPW and for whom he is not scheduled to appear either.

TNA Spoiler

The Wolves are the new TNA World Tag Team Champions

Make Takeshi Rikio's gimmick Foreign Star

Make Takehiro Murahama's gimmick No Gimmick Needed

Make Shadow WX's gimmick Extremist.

Both Rikio and Murahma are retired, so whether or not to be assigned gimmicks is debateable.

On the TAKA front, TAKA said he was LEAVING New Japan. (I got this from Luchablog going into FantasticaMania 2014)

WHY on the Rikio and Murahama gimmicks? The main thing with the game is the guise of "wrestlers could return."

So if someone says they're going to retire in two months do you set them to retired today? I assumed the understanding was you wait for something to happen before making the change. Who knows, NJPW might offer TAKA a new better deal to stay? Or he could leave from April 1. Either way personally I think he should stay with NJPW until it's clear he has no more dates.

Ignoring the issue of whether he should be removed from NJPW now when he will not leave the company until April, why would he be assigned to AJPW? He never said he was joining AJPW, AJPW hasn't said he was joining, and he hasn't appeared there at all in 2014 (and only like 3 or 4 times the past two years). That's the really important part, and I thought the reason why the objection was raised in the first place. It's like saying, Rey Jr's contract runs out next month, add him to TNA. There's no logic or reason there at all. When I read the comment originally my first assumption was, 'this person is confusing NJPW with AJPW.'

The luchablog comment was dating back to January because there was "confusion" on TAKA's status at the time heading into the Fantastica Mania shows. As of right now, TAKA is set to stay in New Japan through March so this is a non-issue until April or May's update.

[Bunkhouse Buck]

WWN Update

Chris Hero is the new EVOLVE Champion

ECWA Update

Kekoa is the new ECWA Unified Heavyweight Champion

Chris Wylde is the new ECWA Mid Atlantic Champion

Edited February 26, 2014 by Bunkhouse Buck

[hippie]

SmackDown spoiler

Turn Batista heel.

[Bunkhouse Buck]

CWFH Update

Joey Ryan is the International Television Champion

[mkpunk]

WWE Finisher Updates:

Bayley should have Belly-to-Bayley as her primary and secondary finishers.

Brie Bella should have Bella Buster as her primary finisher and Missile Dropkick as her secondary finisher.

Cameron (Lynn) should have Girl Bye as her primary finisher.

Corey Graves' 13th Step should be renamed Lucky 13.

Daniel Bryan's Running Busaiku Knee should be Running Knee

Diego should have Hammerlock DDT as his primary and secondary finishers.

Emma should have Emma Sandwich as her secondary finisher. Make it a corner move

Fandango should have Falcon Arrow as his primary finisher and Flying Legdrop as his secondary finisher.

Mojo Rawley should have Sitdown Splash as his primary and secondary finishers.

Nikki Bella should have Rack Attack as her primary finisher and her secondary should be Bella Buster.

Sasha Banks should have Bankrupt as her primary and secondary finishers.

Summer Rae should have Slice Drop as her primary finisher.

Tyler Breeze should have Beauty Mark as his primary and secondary finishers.

In other WWE news,

Make Eva Marie a lower midcard.

Send JoJo to developmental.

The Miz should be a tweener.

Edit:

Adrian Neville's British Airways should be a ground move.

Aksana should have Final Butt as her secondary finisher. Also rename her primary finisher to Divo Drop.

Alberto Del Rio should have Kneeling Superkick as his secondary finisher.

Camacho should have DDT as his secondary finisher.

(Antonio) Cesaro's secondary finisher should be renamed to Pop-Up European Uppercut

Don't think Zeb would approve of a "Very European" Uppercutt;)

Christian should be heel with an old school heel gimmick.

Curt Hawkins should have Laugh Riot as his primary finisher.2 and her technical should be increased to 25.

Erick Rowan should have Running Splash as his primary finisher and Greetings From the North as his secondary finisher. Make the primary a ground move and the secondary an impact move.

Eva Marie's speed should be increased to 22 and technique to 25.

Fernando should have Huracanrana as his primary finisher.

Jey Uso should have Superkick as his secondary finisher.

Jimmy Uso should have Full Nelson Bomb as his secondary finisher.

Kalisto should have Rising Sun as his primary finisher and Hara-Kiri as his secondary finisher.

Raise Lana's overness to 33 and charisma to 58.

Layal El should have Facelift as her secondary finisher. Make it an impact move.

Luke Harper's primary finisher should be Discus Clothesline and his secondary finisher should Truck Stop.

Mason Ryan should have Cobra Clutch Slam as his secondary finisher.

Paige's RamPaige should be a submission move.

Rey Mysterio should have Springboard Splash as his secondary finisher.

Roman Reigns should have Superman Punch as his secondary finisher.

R-Truth's primary finisher should renamed What's Up and his secondary finisher should be Truth or Consequences.

Santino Marella should have Santino Stunner as his secondary finisher.

Seth Rollins should have Diving Knee as his primary finisher and Black Out as his secondary finisher.

Shaun Rickers should have Gravy Train as his secondary finisher.

Sin Cara II should have Somersault Senton Bomb as his primary finisher and Springboard Moonsault as his secondary.

Tamina Snuka should have Superkick as her secondary finisher.

Tensai's secondary finisher should be renamed Ichiban

Viktor's primary finisher should be an impact move.

Edited February 28, 2014 by mkpunk

[hippie]

Rename Tensai to Jason Alberts, tick announcer, make him a Non-Wrestler and change his gimmick to Staff Member.

[Naitch]

I met Steve Corino today and he was a very nice guy, so raise his attitude or whatever it's called in the game. That's how this thread works, right?

[mkpunk]

TNA Spoilers based on Outbreak:

The Bro Mans won back the TNA World Tag Team Titles from The Wolves in a three-way

Seiya Sanada should be added to TNA as he won the X-Divison title from Austin Aries. Raise his overness to 36.

[TheWho87]

TNA Spoilers based on Outbreak:

The Bro Mans won back the TNA World Tag Team Titles from The Wolves in a three-way

Seiya Sanada should be added to TNA as he won the X-Divison title from Austin Aries. Raise his overness to 36.

I'd hold off till its televised or if its reflected at this weeks Impact or Lockdown. Especally as Seiya Sanada is planned to be at Lockdown with Muta and Extreme Tiger

[THEXTREMIST]

Just came back from DDP's Q+A in London where someone asked him about the whole Scott Steiner deal in WCW. He said that people can rub each other the wrong way sometimes and things just blow up, but that him and Scotty are friends again and have been for a while. May want to change his relationship with Scott from Dislike to Friendship or just remove it altogether.

[kdcastles]

Just came back from DDP's Q+A in London where someone asked him about the whole Scott Steiner deal in WCW. He said that people can rub each other the wrong way sometimes and things just blow up, but that him and Scotty are friends again and have been for a while. May want to change his relationship with Scott from Dislike to Friendship or just remove it altogether.

Just remove it. I doubt either would be upset if the other were released from their contract with a wrestling promotion.

[mkpunk]

TNA Spoilers based on Outbreak:

The Bro Mans won back the TNA World Tag Team Titles from The Wolves in a three-way

Seiya Sanada should be added to TNA as he won the X-Divison title from Austin Aries. Raise his overness to 36.

I'd hold off till its televised or if its reflected at this weeks Impact or Lockdown. Especally as Seiya Sanada is planned to be at Lockdown with Muta and Extreme Tiger

As it is a One Night Only, I tend to agree. Though TNA did retcon the past Bro Mans loss (when Impact was taped before the VA show) into last week's show.

Overness talk so if you don't want it, don't click the spoilers.

Here are the ideal overness for the different sized promotions.

Global

Main Eventer: 91-100

Upper Midcarder: 81-90

Midcarder: 61-80

Lower Midcarder: 41-60

Opener: 21-40

Jobber: 0-20

National

Main Eventer: 81-100

Upper Midcarder: 71-80

Midcarder: 56-70

Lower Midcarder: 41-55

Opener: 21-40

Jobber: 0-20

Cult

Main Eventer: 66-100

Upper Midcarder: 51-65

Midcarder: 41-50

Lower Midcarder: 21-40

Opener: 11-20

Jobber: 0-10

Regional

Main Eventer: 56-70

Upper Midcarder: 46-55

Midcarder: 36-45

Lower Midcarder: 21-35

Opener: 11-20

Jobber: 0-10

Small

Main Eventer: 36-50

Upper Midcarder: 21-35

Midcarder: 11-20

Lower Midcarder: 6-10

Opener: 0-5

Jobber: N/A

Backyard

Main Eventer: 21-30

Upper Midcarder: 11-20

Midcarder: 6-10

Lower Midcarder: 0-5

Opener: N/A

Jobber: N/A

To Run WWE:

Titles:

WWE Divas: 71

WWE Intercontinental: 81 (lower to 78)

WWE Tag Team: 80

WWE United States: 78 (lower to 70)

WWE World: 92

Roster:

Main Event:

Alberto Del Rio lower from 87 to 84 and put him in the upper midcarder.

Big Show: lower from 92 to 87 and put him in the upper midcarder

Chris Jericho: lower from 95 to 93.

CM Punk: lower from 97 to 95.

Daniel Bryan raise from 95 to 97.

John Cena: fine as is at 99.

Randy Orton: raise from 93 to 95.

Sheamus: fine as is at 89 but put him in the upper midcard.

Upper Midcard:

Bad New Barrett: lower from 82 to 76 and put him in the midcard.

Bray Wyatt: raise from 84 to 85.

Christian: lower from 86 to 84.

Cody Rhodes: lower from 84 to 82.

Dean Ambrose: fine as is at 86.

Dolph Ziggler: lower from 87 to 84.

Goldust: fine as is at 84.

Kane: fine as is at 89.

Mark Henry: lower from 89 to 86.

Rey Mysterio: fine as is at 86

Rob Van Dam: fine as is at 86.

Roman Reignss: fine as is at 86 make a tweener

Ryback: lower from 87 to 77 and put him in the midcarder.

Seth Rollins: fine as is at 84 and make a tweener

The Miz: lower from 85 to 82

Midcard:

AJ Lee: lower from 82 to 80.

Big E (Langston): fine as is at 79.

Brie Bella: lower from 73 to 71 and make her a girl next door.

Brodus Clay: lower from 73 to 65.

(Antonio) Cesaro: fine at 82 and put him in the upper midcard.

Curtis Axel: lower from 76 to 72.

Damian Sandow: lower from 80 to 76.

Darren Young: lower from 76 to 68

David Otunga: lower from 71 to 61.

Diego: lower from 67 to 63.

Drew McIntyre: lower from 68 to 61.

Erick Rowan: raise from 72 to 76.

Evan Bourne: lower from 68 to 65.

Fandango: lower from 79 to 74

Fernando: lower from 67 to 63.

Heath Slater: lower from 71 to 64.

Jack Swagger: lower from 80 to 75.

Jey Uso: lower from 78 to 77.

Jimmy Uso: lower from 78 to 77 and raise charisma to 72.

Jinder Mahal: lower from 62 to 59 and put him in the lower midcard.

Justin Gabriel: lower from 67 to 65.

Kofi Kingston: lower from 79 to 77.

Layla El: lower from 68 to 62.

Luke Harper: raise from 74 to 78.

Natalya Neidhart: lower from 71 to 68.

Nikki Bella: lower from 72 to 70 and make her a tweener.

R-Truth: lower from 80 to 76.

Santino Marella: lower from 81 to 79.

Tensai: lower from 71 to 62.

The Great Khali: lower from 74 to 68

Titus O'Neil: lower from 76 to 70.

William Regal: lower from 79 to 71.

Zack Ryder: lower from 74 to 60 and put him in the lower midcard.

Lower Midcard:

Aksana: lower from 62 to 60.

Alex Riley: fine at 57.

Alicia Fox: lower from 64 to 59.

Curt Hawkins: lower from 61 to 55.

Ezekiel Jackson: lower from 64 to 59.

JTG: lower from 61 to 52.

Sin Cara II (Hunico): raise from 62 to 72 and put him in the midcard

Tamina Snuka: keep at 64 but make her a manager for AJ.

Tyson Kidd: lower from 71 to 65 and put him in the midcard

Xavier Woods: raise from 51 to 60.

Yoshi Tatsu: lower from 59 to 53

Manager:

Andrea Lynn: remove from WWE.

Camacho: lower from 56 to 50 and send to developmental.

Cameron Lynn: raise from 59 to 63 (Total Divas general population increase)

El Torito: fine at 67 (he is the most over of the Matadores.)

Hornswoggle: lower from 70 to 66.

Naomi Night: raise from 61 to 65 (Total Divas general population increase)

Paul Heyman: lower from 89 to 85.

Ricardo Roriguez: lower from 78 to 74 and make him a sidekick.

Rosa Mendes: lower from 64 to 55 and put her in the lower midcard.

Summer Rae: raise from 58 to 64.

Zeb Colter: lower from 82 to 80.

Non-Workers:

Alisha Ceraso: remove from the game, she took an office job with WWE and it is not comparable to an on-scree ol or in-game staff role.

Batista: fine at 90 because it seems to be "X-Pac heat" and not "real heel heat" and make put him in the main event.

Billy Gunn: raise from 76 to 79 and put him in the midcard

Booker T: lower from 86 to 82.

Brad Maddox: lower from 78 to 72.

Bret Hart: lower from 94 to 92.

Brock Lesnar: lower from 97 to 95.

Eva Marie: fiine as is at 59 and put her in the lower midcard

Finlay: lower from 72 to 69.

Hulk Hogan: 96 overness, chrisma is fine as is.

Jerry Lalwer: lower from 86 to 84.

Jesse James: raise 79 to 81 and put him in the midcard

Joey Mercury: lower from 64 to 55.

JoJo Oferma: raise overness to 35 and as I said earlier, send to developmental

Kevin Nash: fine as is at 87.

Lilian Garcia: fine as is at 66.

Linda McMahon: fine as is at 69.

Mick Foley: fine as is at 94.

Mr. McMahon: fine as is at 95.

Renee Young: raise from 62 to 66.

Ric Flair: fine as is at 95.

Sean Waltman: raise from 72 to 75.

Shawn Michaels: fine as is at 96.

Stephanie McMahon: raise from 90 to 91.

Steve Austin: fine as is at 100.

The Rock: fine as is at 100.

Theodore Long: lower from 76 to 72.

Triple H: fine as is at 98.

Trish Stratus: Remove, she hasn't returned since her Hall of Fame induction and was last seen before that in 2012 on RAW 1000.

Undertaker: fine as is at 100.

Vickie Guerrero: lower from 86 to 82.

Developmental Deals (going by those on NXT):

Adrian Neville, fine at 61.

Aiden English: raise from 30 to 38.

Alexander Rusev raise from 36 to 48 and move to lower midcard on the main roster.

Bo Dallas: raise from 58 to 62 (one above Adrian Neville.)

Byron Saxton: raise from 47 to 58 and make a non-wrestler.

Charlotte: raise from 36 to 40.

Colin Cassady: raise from 19 to 38.

Corey Graves: lower from 54 to 48.

Emma: raise from 49 to 55 and make her a manager for Santino.

Enzo Amore: raise from 19 to 40.

Kalisto: lower from 53 to 44 (indy to WWE discount)

Lana: raise from 19 to 45, raise charisma to 68 and make her a manager for Rusev.

Mason Ryan: lower from 64 to 55.

Mojo Rawley: raise from 30 to 38.

Robbie Brookside: remove as a worker and make him a trainer (I doubt he would return to wrestling in America at 47 especiall when he at most did WCW) Make talent at 80 and backstage at 95.

Sami Zayn: lower from 68 to 60

Solomon Crowe: lower from 67 to 45 (indy to WWE discount)

Sylvester LeFort: raise from 30 to 41.

Tyler Breeze: raise from 39 to 45 and raise charisma to 70.

Viktor: raise from 45 to 48.

To Run TNA:

Titles:

TNA Knockouts: 64

TNA Tag Team: 71. lower to 68

TNA Television (do they even promote this title anymore?): 65

TNA World: 86, lower to 81

TNA X: 76, lower to 70

Roster:

Main Event:

Bobby Roode: lower from 87 to 75 and put him in the upper midcarder.

Bully Ray: lower from 90 to 79

Jeff Hardy: fine as is at 91

Kurt Angle: fine as is at 91

Magnus: lower from 79 to 73 and put him in the upper midcarder.

Mr. Anderson: lower from 80 to 72 and put him in the upper midcarder.

Samoa Joe: lower from 82 to 75 and put him in the upper midcarder.

Austin Aries: lower from 86 to 73 and make him an upper midcarder.

Upper Midcard:

Chris Sabin: lower overness from 75 to 66 and put him in the midcard.

Christopher Daniels: lower overness from 82 to 78.

James Storm: lower overness from 83 to 78.

Joseph Park/Abyss: lower overness from 78 to 70.

Kazarian: lower overness from 78 to 74.

Montel Vontavious Porter: fine as is at 71.

Midcard:

Brooke: fine as is at 63.

Davey Richards: lower overness from 72 to 68

Eddie Edwards: lower overness from 69 to 68

Eric Young: lower from 74 to 62.

Ethan Carter III: raise from 61 to 65.

Gail Kim: lower from 72 to 68.

Garrett Bischoff: lower from63 to 55 and put him in the lower midcard.

Gunner: fine as is at 69.

Hernandez: lower from 74 to 66.

Jessie Godderz: lower from 62 to 58.

Kenny King: lower from 70 to 59

Knux: lower from 62 to 52 and put him in the lower midcard.

Madison Rayne: lower from 64 to 68

Rob Terry: lower from 63 to 52 and put him in the lower midcard.

Robbie E: lower from 68 to 60.

Taryn Terrell: lower from 61 to 54 and put her in the lower midcard.

Tigre Uno(Extreme Tiger): fine as is at 57 (yet to debut)

Zema Ion: lower from 67 to 57

Lower Midcard:

Manik: fine as is at 64 but put him in the midcard.

ODB: lower from 67 to 62 and put her in the midcard.

Rockstar Spud: raise from 50 to 55 but put him in the lower midcarder (he is none right now.)

Samuel Shaw: raise from 45 to 53.

Opener:

Bad Bones: raise from 32 to 36.

Dewey Barnes: fine as is at 30.

Lei'D Tapa: lower from 56 to 53 and put her in the lower midcard.

Norv Fernnum: raise from 21 to 32.

Santana Garrett: fine as is at 38 (yet to debut)

Manager:

Alpha Female: raise from 26 to 40

Velvet Sky: lower from 69 to 63 and put her in the midcard.

Non-Workers:

Al Snow lower from 73 to 65.

Christy Hemme: fine at 67

Dixie Carter: fine at 75.

Hector Garza: fine at 57

Jeremy Borash: fine at 67.

Quinton Jackson: fine at 74.

Taz: lower from 78 to 70.

Tito Ortiz: fine at 69

TNA: finishers:

Brooke (Tessmacher) should have Flying Elbowdrop as her secondary finisher.

Bully Ray should have Piledriver as his secondary finisher.

Chris Sabin should have Hail Sabin as his primary finisher.

Kazarian should have his finishers switched so Wave of the Future is his primary and his secondary is Fade to Black.

Mr. Anderson's secondary finisher should be Senton Bomb (top rope.)

MVP should have Drive-By Kick as his primary finisher.

Taryn Terrell should have Running Cutter as her primary finisher and Diving Bulldog as her secondary finisher.

Samuel Shaw should have Kata Gatame (submission) as his primary finisher and Breaking Point as his secondary finisher (top rope).

Seita Sanada should have This Is It a submission move as his primary finisher and Moonsault as his secondary finisher.

[Dan B.]

Probably not really a TNA spoiler this point, but cut to be safe -

-Joseph Park seems to have pretty solidly reverted to being Abyss on TV at this point - maybe change his name back in-game (but keep the Split Personality gimmick for now)?

-Tick Trainer for Bill Wiles and The Blue Meanie (they're trainers at the Monster Factory - http://www.monsterfactory.org/how-to-become-a-student-at-the-monster-factory/ )
-Since there's been talk of cutting down the Tag Team file - I think both "HLA Duo" and "WCW Divas" could probably be deleted. I don't recall Stacy and Torrie teaming up more than a couple of times, and I'm not sure Looney Lane and Savvy ever actually teamed outside of the HLA angle on Raw.

Edited March 3, 2014 by Dan B.

[TheWho87]

TNA Spoilers based on Outbreak:

The Bro Mans won back the TNA World Tag Team Titles from The Wolves in a three-way

Seiya Sanada should be added to TNA as he won the X-Divison title from Austin Aries. Raise his overness to 36.

I'd hold off till its televised or if its reflected at this weeks Impact or Lockdown. Especally as Seiya Sanada is planned to be at Lockdown with Muta and Extreme Tiger

As it is a One Night Only, I tend to agree. Though TNA did retcon the past Bro Mans loss (when Impact was taped before the VA show) into last week's show.

True but the issue is that it has been taped for future airing so they could hold off acknowlaging the change till the ONO PPV airs compared to the previous change that was recorded at a house show.

Edited March 3, 2014 by TheWho87

[hippie]

Change Daniel Bryan's primary finisher name to the Knee Plus (impact).

Enzo Amore is 27 years old.

Edited March 3, 2014 by hippie

[kdcastles]

Who is the Dr. Karonte Jr. in the game? The only 2 people I can find that have played the character are Mistico/Original Sin Cara and Argenis (before he was in AAA)

[Jambie45658]

I have a suggestion regarding WWE/NXT...

Make NXT a separate company.

Give all workers and staff that are on the official NXT roster open contracts with WWE and NXT.

[TheWho87]

I have a suggestion regarding WWE/NXT...

Make NXT a separate company.

Give all workers and staff that are on the official NXT roster open contracts with WWE and NXT.

WWE would automatically fire the entire roster, either that or the talent would get signed with a third promotion which would not be realistic.