2017 MLB Thread

[Mx. Canadian Destroyer]

2 hours ago, Meacon said:

All this talk about us maybe getting Gerrit Cole from Pittsburgh. Man, if that happens...I didn't think I could get any more giddy, but my laws my laws *fans self while taking a sip of ice tea*

 

On 08/12/2017 at 13:35, Kevin "McD"allister said:

 

[GhostMachine]

If Jack Morris is now in, I want someone to come up with a justification for letting one of my favorite pitchers, Orel Hershiser, in.

 

 

[Meacon Keaton]

Yanks traded Bryan Mitchell and Chase Headley and his $13 million contract to San Diego. So Chase can most likely end his career where it started and the Yanks get even further under the luxury tax/freeing up more money for a pitcher. 

[Meacon Keaton]

Also the Orioles are reportedly now shopping Manny Machado. 

The Cardinals are reportedly close to a deal with Miami for Marcell Ozuna. 

And Washington have reportedly reached out to Jake Arrieta.

Reportedly. 

[The Buscher]

Meanwhile, Sandy Alderson is hard at work putting the finishing touches on the Mets' PowerPoint presentation for Ohtani.

[Meacon Keaton]

Sounds like you guys are definitely going to keep Matt Harvey too. 

[GhostMachine]

I just looked up the stats, and Jack Morris will be the 76th pitcher inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame. Of those HoFers, Morris has the worst .ERA, and only 11 of those pitchers have an .ERA over 3.50. The next worst pitcher as far as .ERA is concerned is Red Ruffing, with an .ERA of 3.80 to Morris' 3.90. Ruffing played 4 years longer than Morris, but gave up around 140 less home runs. Morris has a LOT more strikeouts, though.

It's hard for me to justify Morris going in. I thought he was overrated back when he was active, and if he had played in any other era, he'd probably be viewed as a joke. In my view, he's likely getting in because he's a 4x World Series champion and led the MLB in wins twice. If that's why, then I can easily make a case for Orel Hershiser going in. He won a Cy Young Award, which Morris never did, and pitching 59 consecutive scoreless innings is easily more impressive than anything Morris did. (Morris did pitch a no-hitter, but pitching 59 scoreless innings in a row has to be a hell of a lot harder to pull off.)

That said, if Omar Vizquel gets in, the next induction ceremony will be a joke. If anything, Vizquel is a bubble player, NOT a first year induction.

[Meacon Keaton]

It's not often that I agree with GhostMachine, but I 100% agree on Orel Hershiser being more deserving of Jack Morris. Jack Morris is the product of just playing a long time. Being slightly above average for a long career should not equal a Hall of Fame career. And I don't necessarily believer Hershiser should get in. But if Morris is in, then there's no argument for him not to get in now. 

[Pizza]

1 minute ago, Meacon said:

It's not often that I agree with GhostMachine

Just this and how great the Yankees are. 

[The Buscher]

1 hour ago, Meacon said:

Sounds like you guys are definitely going to keep Matt Harvey too. 

Broken Matt Harvey is an obsolete mule who needs to be deleted from the plane of existence known as MLB.

[MalaCloudy Black]

Cubs agreed to a deal with Drew Smyly through 2019. I had no idea Drew Smyly is an Arkie.

[Meacon Keaton]

I wonder if that means you all have given up on re-signing Arrieta?

[ThrillhouseMAX]

I get the feeling this is gonna be a frustrating off-season for Mets fans. 

[Mx. Canadian Destroyer]

1 hour ago, Meacon said:

I wonder if that means you all have given up on re-signing Arrieta?

Smyly probably won't pitch in 2018. He had Tommy John in June.

[Meacon Keaton]

I completely forgot about that. I thought he went out in Spring Training. 

Michael Pineada signed a two year deal with Minnesota. 

[Mx. Canadian Destroyer]

Ozuna is going to the Cards it seems. No word on what the Marlins are getting in return yet.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/12/cardinals-to-acquire-marcell-ozuna.html

[Meacon Keaton]

I’m sure St Louis had a bag of stale peanuts sitting around somewhere that they could give them. If I were a Marlins fan I’d be burning everything. What a disgrace. And yes I’m including the Stanton trade in the disgrace. We completely fleeced em. 

[Toe]

It's sad to look at the Marlins. They had good players throughout the line-up, but a below-average rotation. With a good owner, you'd think they'd be going in the opposite direction and looking to bolster that rotation in an effort to challenge to Nationals.

[Mx. Canadian Destroyer]

They need to trade everyone that has any value. They have lost all hope from the fans. Keeping Christian Yelich isn't going to bring any fans to the ballpark. Sell everything, rebuild and hopefully in a few years they can contend.

Honestly, the Jeter group overpaid for the team. Their ability to manage the payroll of the team should have been a factor in their takeover of the team. 

[Toe]

Yelich would make a great Blue Jay, for sure!