General Football Thread

[Kaney]

Huh. I wasn't ever a massive fan or anything but it's weird, I kind of always expected he'd win a world cup at some point. Surely he's got another tournament in him?

[Adam]

He's got plenty more in him, he's just tired of failing it seems.

[Benji]

1 hour ago, Executive Kaney said:

Huh. I wasn't ever a massive fan or anything but it's weird, I kind of always expected he'd win a world cup at some point. Surely he's got another tournament in him?

These things aren't always set in stone. Zidane retired in 2004, came back for 2006, headbutted a dude, then retired again.

[MDK]

I was looking up what player has been capped the most and it turns out it is some geezer called Ahmed Hassan of Egypt with 184. 184! Fuck me. Then I look at the list of women... 352. 352! International caps! Kristine Lilly of the USA. Fucking hell. Not even a goalie, she was midfield. 

[Moses Julep]

1 hour ago, MDK said:

I was looking up what player has been capped the most and it turns out it is some geezer called Ahmed Hassan of Egypt with 184. 184! Fuck me. Then I look at the list of women... 352. 352! International caps! Kristine Lilly of the USA. Fucking hell. Not even a goalie, she was midfield. 

I wonder if Buffon will pass him. He's got 23 caps to go and one more World Cup to play for!

[MDK]

39 minutes ago, Moses Julep said:

I wonder if Buffon will pass him. He's got 23 caps to go and one more World Cup to play for!

Maybe? Who knows. Maldini and Zoff played for donkeys years. I hope so. Fucking hell, he's been in the Italy squad since '97.

[brenchill]

1 hour ago, MDK said:

Maybe? Who knows. Maldini and Zoff played for donkeys years. I hope so. Fucking hell, he's been in the Italy squad since '97.

I remember when he saved that Pele penalty back in '58!

[MDK]

Just now, brenchill said:

I remember when he saved that Pele penalty back in '58!

And he was 48! Kids these days, eh?

[The Lusophone]

Question for people, does the lack of international success for Messi (only the 2008 Olympics to his name) and Ronaldo (Euro 2016) mean that even though they're clearly the very best players in the world currently, they're not as good as the likes of Pele etc, who were very successful internationally and domestically?

[9 to 5]

32 minutes ago, Mad Jack said:

Question for people, does the lack of international success for Messi (only the 2008 Olympics to his name) and Ronaldo (Euro 2016) mean that even though they're clearly the very best players in the world currently, they're not as good as the likes of Pele etc, who were very successful internationally and domestically?

No, not at all. It is not something a player can help, his birthplace. Unfair to punish someone like George Weah for being born in a very poor African nation and 'reward' someone like Xavi being born in a wealthy Western nation like that just because of their origins.

[Benji]

They are probably better players individually, but they are not better players relative to their time period. That's entirely down to the players existing in their respective times and no fault of any man.

[MDK]

38 minutes ago, Mad Jack said:

Question for people, does the lack of international success for Messi (only the 2008 Olympics to his name) and Ronaldo (Euro 2016) mean that even though they're clearly the very best players in the world currently, they're not as good as the likes of Pele etc, who were very successful internationally and domestically?

I find it hard to compare players from different eras. I reckon most average international teams would do well playing great teams of the past purely down to fitness.

[The Lusophone]

11 minutes ago, MDK said:

I find it hard to compare players from different eras. I reckon most average international teams would do well playing great teams of the past purely down to fitness.

I definitely feel like a modern international side would have that kind of advantage, and in terms of pitch quality, ball quality, kit etc etc I think they'd have an edge.

Imagine a Pele or a Stanley Matthews playing in the modern era though. Would be immense.

[Benji]

3 hours ago, 9 to 5 said:

No, not at all. It is not something a player can help, his birthplace. Unfair to punish someone like George Weah for being born in a very poor African nation and 'reward' someone like Xavi being born in a wealthy Western nation like that just because of their origins.

George Weah was ace. Basically the reason I used to get up and watch Football Italia.

[MDK]

3 hours ago, Benji said:

George Weah was ace. Basically the reason I used to get up and watch Football Italia.

For me it Giuseppe Signori. And to find out what flavour gelato James Richardson was eating.

[Benji]

So I just picked Sky Sports package back up again yesterday and figured I'd try and get my money's worth, so rather than just watching Leicester games and maybe WWE - can anyone suggest me any good shows on it for football? Looking for maybe something of a summary show for Europe and/or lower leagues, preferably not longer than an hour a week.

[EddieG]

Eurogoals on Eurosport

[Benji]

Eurosport is for nonces and also not part of the Sky Sports package last time I checked.

[Lineker]

They inexplicably canned Revista, still not over that.

[Adam]

Isn't there still Goals On Sunday for the Football League? I'm guessing to be fair as I don't have Sky Sports, but I follow Kammy on Twitter