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Rumored Online Play In This Version. I'm hoping for a career mode thats longer then one year and has wrestlers retire get injured sign with fake rival companys and things of that nature. Maybe have some new "created" wrestlers come in as you progress. It'd be great to start down in OVW too, have all the developmental wrestlers in. If you picked an established guy though such as a John Cena you'd start in WWE. Comments on the screens?

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Playstation. Which means it'll probably have the most features and adaptability.

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I think its looking pretty good so far. If it does turn out to be an online game, it will be by far the best wrestling game to be created to date(and yes, that means better than No Mercy :P ).

I take it the release date is set for November like usual?

Also as I am lazy to bother looking does anyone know any of the following:

Is there going to be commentry this time around? If so, will it be both announce teams or what?

What new match's and features are actually rumoured to make it into the game?

Any legends this time around or not?(If so I am so hoping that people like Hall, Owen and Bret etc make it into the game)

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I'm hoping for a career mode thats longer then one year and has wrestlers retire get injured sign with fake rival companys and things of that nature.

won´t happen, all of that

Maybe have some new "created" wrestlers come in as you progress.

won´t happen

It'd be great to start down in OVW too, have all the developmental wrestlers in.

won´t happen

Comments on the screens?

they look wores than HCTP

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The screens are pretty ugly compared to other stuff I've seen (namely KOC 2 and Network Pro Wrestling, both for PS2). I hate that this happens every time a new Smackdown game comes out, where everyone gets pumped up about it having new features and wrestlers and all that crap, and none of it comes to fruition. I'd rather play VPW2 on N64, truthfully.

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WWE Smackdown vs. RAW: First Details

Behold wrestling fans: the first screenshots and info from the year's biggest grappling game

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/522/522962p1.html

June 11, 2004 - As passionate as the teams at THQ and Yuke's are about their WWE Smackdown franchise, getting them to talk about the next iteration of the series hasn't exactly been easy. Originally announced last month exclusively through IGN prior to the Electronic Entertainment Expo, the sixth installment known as Smackdown! vs. RAW has been quickly transformed into one of the most talked about forthcoming PS2 titles this year. And with speculation and rumors about the game already running rampant, we felt it our duty to get to the bottom of it all so that we could set the record straight.

Sadly that's easier said than done. As our buddies at THQ are keeping tight-lipped regarding the implementation of this year's roster and feature set. "Honestly, we're just not ready to reveal too much about the game yet," said the THQ representatives we spoke with. "In fact, you guys [iGN] will probably be doing most of the roster revelations yourselves when you kick off your Smackdown Countdown later this year. We like secrets. Secrets are good."

Apparently the roster isn't the only thing remaining covert, though; as THQ has an absolutely massive undisclosed gameplay option that will be announced sometime over the next couple of weeks. And while we can't get official confirmation as to just what that secret may end up being just yet, the word on the street is that it's that it's the one extra that everyone has been waiting for since the advent of PS2 Network Adapter: Online connectivity. And from what we understand, that's not so far off from the truth.

Speculation aside, we were at least able to confirm several of Smackdown vs. RAW's specifics in relation to what's been left over from last year's effort Here Comes the Pain. Six-person simultaneous play, for instance, has once again been brought back so that players can make the most of a pair of Multi-tap peripherals. And every single one of 2003's game modes have returned to action too; with match types like Hell in the Cell, Slobber Knocker, Table Matches, and First Blood back and bigger than ever. Much to our chagrin, THQ would not confirm any of its new modes or gameplay features in time for us to meet our deadline; though the company representatives did assure us that Smackdown vs. RAW would boast several of them before all is said and done.

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Visually the game has been given a boost too. Character models and attire in particular have a lot more detail than they did before, with a continued emphasis on facial recreation and animation. "You're going to freak out when you see this new one in motion," whispered a THQ employee that wished to remain anonymous. "It's easily the best looking game in the series."

Old-school fans should also be pleased to know that legends have been reinstated for the roster as well, with a stronger focus on big name stars and classic personalities. And while there will definitely be a few historical grapplers from last year's version to make the rounds all over again, THQ has also included some new representatives to bolster the ranks. We're told that the updated roster will be comprised of some of the biggest classic names in the industry too; but because of ongoing contractual negotiations, can't be named.

But that doesn't mean that we didn't get the names of some of the planned Smackdown vs. RAW active superstars. As we finally managed to get the THQ guys to spill the beans regarding the lineup. "It will definitely have all the champions in there, how could it not?" remarked aTHQ rep. "Of course, we'll have several surprises and divas on the list too, but for now, you can bet that the champions and their top contenders will be in there." Specifically, players can expect to see Randy Orton, John Cena, Triple H, Chris Benoit, Shawn Michaels, and Eddie Guerrero. Unforunately we couldn't confirm whether or not Tag Team champ Edge or the oft-wanted La Resistance would be in there.

But secrecy seems to be Smackdown vs. RAWs theme this year. As THQ have plans to reveal details more meticulously than in the years before it. The company did confirm one final tidbit about the game, though, which is its release date: November 2004. And with almost half a year left, the time should give anxious WWE gamers plenty of time to digest exactly what lies before them.

The good news is that your buddies at IGN will be with you every step of the way. As we plan on continuing our popular Smackdown Countdown features from seasons previous with the most information, media, and news regarding the game than anywhere else in the world. In fact, on our media page below we've included the first handful of screenshots taken from an early build. And you can expect us to return again next week (and rather soon at that) with the first official trailer that you won't be able to find anywhere else. So saddle up WWE fans -- today's tidbits was only the beginning. We'll be back again with more next week.

-- Jeremy Dunham

Credit: IGN.com - http://ps2.ign.com/articles/522/522962p1.html. Link at bottom of page.

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Holy crap... Orton looks freakin' ugly in this game...

- The Dork Knight

Are you hinting towards something with that statement? :shifty:

The game looks good. Nice to see them putting in more effort to make the game more realistic.

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Personally, I'm not overly impressed with those screens. Just seems a little bland to be, and also kinda "square" looking. Not saying it can't get better, juts not making me say WOW at the moment.

And as far as online play goes, I'm NOT one of those who think that online play AUTOMATICALLY equals a better game.

Add those up, and I'm still going to get DoR over this.

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the clothes and the character models look more detailed than the last SD! game. I mean, look at that Cena compared to HCTP's Cena. BIG change.

I'll buy it, of course. I'm also getting a chip for my PS2 so I can play imported games *coughkoc2cough*

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won´t happen, all of that

won´t happen

won´t happen

they look wores than HCTP

:D Michael Matzat, #1 fan of the Smackdown series.

I don't have an online PS2, so if the major selling point for Smackdown vs. Raw is the online feature, I won't be buying it.

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Old-school fans should also be pleased to know that legends have been reinstated for the roster as well, with a stronger focus on big name stars and classic personalities. And while there will definitely be a few historical grapplers from last year's version to make the rounds all over again, THQ has also included some new representatives to bolster the ranks. We're told that the updated roster will be comprised of some of the biggest classic names in the industry too; but because of ongoing contractual negotiations, can't be named.

How about worrying about getting all of the current WWE roster in first before worrying about legends. If I wanted legends I'd play Legends of Wrestling not a WWE game. When playing a WWE game I want WWE superstars not washed up old has beens.

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:D Michael Matzat, #1 fan of the Smackdown series.

I don't have an online PS2, so if the major selling point for Smackdown vs. Raw is the online feature, I won't be buying it.

well asides from smackdowns best subtitles most lickly being something like "we´ll change nothing", "we changed nothing", "we changed nothing;- again" "why are you ideot buying the same game each year, issent the economie down ?" aaaaaaaand "Nothing New" and soon "nothing new - online edition" the stuff that guy phantasised was pritty laughebell in genneral ;)

Seriusly, my problem with smackdown issent that it´s wwe (i loved the WCW/WWF thq n64 games) ore something like that, smackdown just has the exackt same problems with the basic gameplay until smackdown one for PSone, they added tons of crap that COULD be interesting but based on the basic crap gameplay combined with half ass development on the "new" stuff (you cannot realy call it new becaus most of it plays worrs than some aplha game tests i took part in) just kills everything.

Smackdown is a game for Marks, - people that mark for the names they hear on tv, from wrestlers to gimmiks, if people would care for a good game they would hate smackdown . . . what is so cool in having a last man standing match wen you can kill your ennemie with weapons and finishers for 10 minutes with him still getting up at 5 while he can murder you with one right shot ? Whats so fun with HIAC wen your running oponent can hold himself back from falling down the cell while you slide down during the execution of a move becaus people just forgot to put anny collision code in the game besides the "running against the top border of the cell" ? Whats so fun about having a simple tag team match wen the AI is so silly that the tag team partners run in circels "OMFG MY PARTNER IS BEING PINNED WHAT SHOULD I DO ?" ? Whats so fun about falling down 15-20 meters without taking anny damage ? Whats so fun about a story mode that makes no sens AT ALL (ok thats wwe realissem somehow) ? [...manny, manny, houres later...] ZING~!

Smackdown = BAD licens whore, you have no idea how happy i would be about an Wrestling game that has some of thes Matchtypes (3 vs 3 elimination tag, HIAC, cage and some more) well don... but just having them in for the sake of having them in, no matter how bad the genneral game basis and the "gimmik match" development is is just not the way i need it.

i understand that some people wont understand this, i fare to often read stuff like "OMFG i gave that guy 2346234547 stunners in 1342 minutes and than pinned him, smackdown is so cool" and i see that some people just want to overdose themselfs with markouts, i understand that people can get exitment from such flatness, but wen i buy a game, i want to have fun throu what games should bring fun throu, brilliant gameplay, even if that only is reduced to two ore three matchtypes (wen it comes to wrestling games, soccer games most of the time have less ;))

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well asides from smackdowns best subtitles most lickly being something like "we´ll change nothing", "we changed nothing", "we changed nothing;- again" "why are you ideot buying the same game each year, issent the economie down ?" aaaaaaaand "Nothing New" and soon "nothing new - online edition" the stuff that guy phantasised was pritty laughebell in genneral  ;)

Seriusly, my problem with smackdown issent that it´s wwe (i loved the WCW/WWF thq n64 games) ore something like that, smackdown just has the exackt same problems with the basic gameplay until smackdown one for PSone, they added tons of crap that COULD be interesting but based on the basic crap gameplay combined with half ass development on the "new" stuff (you cannot realy call it new becaus most of it plays worrs than some aplha game tests i took part in) just kills everything.

Smackdown is a game for Marks, - people that mark for the names they hear on tv, from wrestlers to gimmiks, if people would care for a good game they would hate smackdown . . . what is so cool in having a last man standing match wen you can kill your ennemie with weapons and finishers for 10 minutes with him still getting up at 5 while he can murder you with one right shot ? Whats so fun with HIAC wen your running oponent can hold himself back from falling down the cell while you slide down during the execution of a move becaus people just forgot to put anny collision code in the game besides the "running against the top border of the cell" ? Whats so fun about having a simple tag team match wen the AI is so silly that the tag team partners run in circels "OMFG MY PARTNER IS BEING PINNED WHAT SHOULD I DO ?" ?  Whats so fun about falling down  15-20 meters without taking anny damage ? Whats so fun about a story mode that makes no sens AT ALL (ok thats wwe realissem somehow) ? [...manny, manny, houres later...] ZING~!

Smackdown = BAD licens whore, you have no idea how happy i would be about an Wrestling game that has some of thes Matchtypes (3 vs 3 elimination tag, HIAC, cage and some more) well don... but just having them in for the sake of having them in, no matter how bad the genneral game basis and the "gimmik match" development is is just not the way i need it.

i understand that some people wont understand this, i fare to often read stuff like "OMFG i gave that guy 2346234547 stunners in 1342 minutes and than pinned him, smackdown is so cool" and i see that some people just want to overdose themselfs with markouts, i understand that people can get exitment from such flatness, but wen i buy a game, i want to have fun throu what games should bring fun throu, brilliant gameplay, even if that only is reduced to two ore three matchtypes (wen it comes to wrestling games, soccer games most of the time have less ;))

What he said. But in English....

:P

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I want a better SmackDown!, honestly. I haven't played KoC, but I'd assume anything is better than this garbage.

I play it because it's basically the only semi-decent wrestling game sold in the US. I'm not talking about imports or anything, i'm talking about sold in the US. The WCW games sucked ass, as did the ECW ones.

I think they're just trying to push the graphical limits of the PS2, instead of focusing on the gameplay. I think once they get that down like they want it, they'll focus on the gameplay. *coughsmackdown8cough*.

But yeah. If I didn't have to import KoC, I'd forget about SD! games. But I have to import it, and that's like a no-no in my family or some reason :ohwell:

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how can importing be a big no-no ? it´s even cheaper than new european games in most cases.

my parents don't like ordering online. they seem to think companies steal their credit card numbers and use them or something. :rolleyes:

I'm trying to convince my dad to buy a chip & KoC for me.

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