Friday The 13th

[GhostMachine]

They already did one where Jason wasn't the killer....

I saw an interview with the actor playing Jason, and he talked about one of the differences being that Jason isn't a supernatural being in this one, but is human. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't pretty much a given that he's pretty much undead to begin with, since he friggin' drowned? Or did they change that in this movie?

[Maxx]

Yeah, Part 5 was horrible.

Jason wasn't undead untill Jason Lives, when he's brought back to life via metal fence post and lightining.

I just wonder what people expected from the movie, There's been 10 and a half Friday the 13th movies, you're really hard pressed to come up with new shit for him to do. Yes, they could have gone the Halloween remake route and let someone completely redo the franchise with a new look and feel, but then you'd have the same massive split of opinion that movie did. They went the safe side and made a Friday the 13th movie that looks better than all the past ones. There didn't need to be torture porn levels of gore in it, and it didn't need to be as visceral as the TCM remake was. Its a slasher franchise, and they made a slasher movie.

My favorite kill:

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The girl getting burned alive in the sleeping bag, that was a cool new trick for Jason.

Edited February 14, 2009 by Montana Maxx

[zero]

I think a lot of it has to do with my feelings on adaptations in the last two years. Transformers showed us what happens when you take the easy road and get people to say "it's robots and explosions, what did you expect?" But then a year later, movies like Iron Man and The Dark Knight came along and showed that not only can you make kick ass action movies with explosions, but they can also be, ya know, good. Someone needs to do that with horror and just like with The Dark Knight, it needs to be done with an iconic character like Jason or Freddy. I love shitty horror movies as much as the next guy, but there's just so much potential in genre, especially with characters like these.

They obviously missed the boat with this one, so I guess I'll just hold out hope for Nightmare, but not too much since Michael Bay has his retarded little fingers on that one too.

Edited February 14, 2009 by Zero

[Toe]

I liked it, probably because I am a fan of the series until the girl had psychic powers.

Anyways, this is what I liked the most...

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They didn't kill him. That is what I hated the most about the Halloween remake - they killed him off, and you can't have someone come back from a gunshot blowing your head clean off. Also, the way they had him jump out of the water, just like the ending to Friday The 13th and Friday The 13th Part 3.

Some predictable stuff, but the camera work was good and I enjoyed the plot and the stuff they borrowed from the first three films. And, as mentioned, the burning sleeping bag was cool.

[Maxx]

I think a lot of it has to do with my feelings on adaptations in the last two years. Transformers showed us what happens when you take the easy road and get people to say "it's robots and explosions, what did you expect?" But then a year later, movies like Iron Man and The Dark Knight came along and showed that not only can you make kick ass action movies with explosions, but they can also be, ya know, good. Someone needs to do that with horror and just like with The Dark Knight, it needs to be done with an iconic character like Jason or Freddy. I love shitty horror movies as much as the next guy, but there's just so much potential in genre, especially with characters like these.

They obviously missed the boat with this one, so I guess I'll just hold out hope for Nightmare, but not too much since Michael Bay has his retarded little fingers on that one too.

Well you should still see it for yourself before you judge it too harshly. I don't think you'll ever see a Dark Knight caliber movie made out of an icon. There's just no room for it with Freddy or Jason. Yes, there's alot of character development that could be done with the monsters themselves, but there will never be a truly strong adversary for them, and even if they were, who would actually want them to survive. Horror's been skewed to root for the villian nowadays. Yes in TDK everyone loved The Joker, but didn't exactly mind Batman winning out in the end. I don't know how many people would actually like to see some random teenager survive a Jason or Freddy movie.

The horror genre itself can be and needs to be pushed to its limits, because there's so much you can do in it, but I don't think you'll ever see it with slashers.

[Romero]

I present to you.... the film nominated for SEVEN academy awards...

The Slasher

[Maxx]

That is one of the greatest things I've ever seen. That song is phenomenal.

[BuddyAwesome]

I haven't seen this and I am going to because I'm a huge fan of horror movies in general. However, as much as I love horror movies, todays day and age just really doesn't care for the genre I believe. I say this because at my other job I work at a video rental store, and the horrors may be checked out by the die-hard fans of the genre, but mostly people don't care about them any more. It's kind of sad.

[Gabriel]

I haven't seen this and I am going to because I'm a huge fan of horror movies in general. However, as much as I love horror movies, todays day and age just really doesn't care for the genre I believe. I say this because at my other job I work at a video rental store, and the horrors may be checked out by the die-hard fans of the genre, but mostly people don't care about them any more. It's kind of sad.

Horror has always been a niche audience thing. I don't think the 80s were any better for mainstream horror films than we are today, really. It's never been something that has wide appeal, and that's simply because of what it is. It's the nature of the beast.

Sure, there were some horror films back then that were widely accepted by people, but we have those today...and really, marketing a horror film to a mass audience, instead of the ready made target audience, is what gives us all of these by-the-numbers horror films that, while they may not be shit exactly, are interchangeable with about a dozen others.

[Captain Eo]

Wow.

That was really bad.

[Maxx]

Damn EO, you rip that review off from Ebert? Christ, add to the fucking discussion. Why didn't you like it, is it really so hard to elaborate?

[BuddyAwesome]

It seems like too many modern day horror movies are more torture than anything else.

[Gabriel]

It seems like too many modern day horror movies are more torture than anything else.

That's because they sell to a wider audience than just the Horror Movie Niche.

If you want something different, like I said earlier, Feast was over the top offensive and fun... or Teeth wasn't a traditional style of horror film, but it was extremely good.

Or, the acting wasn't great in this one, but it was a pretty decent flick regardless... Eat Your Heart Out. Man falls in love with woman. Finds out she can only eat people. Feeds her. It's a tale as old as time.

[zero]

Well you should still see it for yourself before you judge it too harshly.

You're right. I'm just bummed because I started out not caring about it at all, then got revved up after seeing the trailers and then deflated again after the wave of bad reviews. I expect them from critics, but it's a bit concerning coming from EWB. It'd be one thing if it was the mega backlash to Halloween that we had, but it's more of a "meh," which really killed my interest in rushing to the theater tonight.

[Gabriel]

I get my horror movie reviews and news from Dread Central.

I trust the opinions of those guys, because they look for a lot of the same things I do. Our tastes are extremely similar, and they rarely ever steer me wrong. One guy had a lukewarm reception to the film, but did lean in favor of it. The other reviewer loved it to death.

I have a hard time with a large group's opinions, because especially on EWB, the group is so diverse that it's impossible to properly gauge whether you might enjoy it yourself or not.

[That Guy Mikey]

Why do people say that they liked the camera work, half of the time you couldnt even when he killed somebody.

[HeartlineTwist]

Why do people say that they liked the camera work, half of the time you couldnt even when he killed somebody.

This isn't true. At all. There are lots of times during the movie when you're like...what the fuck were you guys thinking, but it's not during the deaths...like...ever.

As for the horror movie discussion: horror movies, in general, have taken a turn for predictable with the staggering number of established conventions. I knew the dog was coming, but it still sort of got me. Yes, I know there are ways to still make movies scary, but you come to be able to predict where a lot of the scares are.

I know you guys hate this argument, but scary isn't ever what slasher films have been about. They're about the stalk and the not quite irrational fear that there just may be a boogeyman out there coming to get you. The "horror" of a slasher film is the slasher, not the things that creep and go bump in the night. At least for me, anyway. I'm taking a Horror Film Genre class in college right now. 's been pretty cool so far.

I enjoyed the movie for what it was. There were some really, REALLY funny parts (and I mean parts that were supposed to be funny). We got some pretty nice boobs. We got some pretty good kills.

If there was a major gripe I have with the movie, it'd be that every good possible scare moment or even decent kill is SPOILED BY THE FUCKING THEATRICAL TRAILER FOR THE FUCKING MOVIE.

The Last House on the Left remake looks like it's going to suffer the same exact fate. Still good, though.

I've seen much worse. Shit

Friday the 13th (this one):The Dark Knight::My Bloody Valentine 3D:Spider-Man 3 or (insert shittastic superhero film here)

[LexChaney]

Movie was ok. Not great, but ok. I enjoyed some bits of the film but I found less scary and not really full of a lot of gore. The comedy bits had me laughing.

If you went in expecting a legitimately scary film, or Saw/Hostel levels of gore, then I have no idea where you got your ideas about the Friday the 13th franchise.

While there have been moments in the films where you can say "Holy shit, that kill was awesome", it's never really been about the gore.

My advice to new viewers, or people who've seen some of the old films but never really became big fans... go through and watch them all. I haven't seen the remake, but I can almost guarantee that by the time you get to the remake, you'll love it... or you'll hate the whole series.

It's just my own personal view really that I have on the film. I know that Friday the 13 films are slash movies. Like I said the film was ok, but not that great. I have seen the other films, I have them on DVD. In the remake it looked as if they tried to make the viewers jump at certain bits, some people in the cinema did, but sometimes it failed in trying to cause a reaction. It wasn't a bad film, a lot better than the Halloween remake.

To be honest I didn't care for any of the characters that are in the film, they had nothing good about them, Jared Padalecki was about the best actor in the fucking film. Also they died too fucking easy without putting up any kind of a fight (But this is not the way Friday the 13th films work).

I don't know what I wanted, or was expected out of the film. But nothing beats the original, it was scary, kept you on the edge of your seat and was everything that you wanted out of a horror film. Anyway it did keep me entertained for the money I paid, but yeah I do think it could have been better. Each person has a different view on the film, some will love it, others will enjoy it, some will dislike and some with hate the film. It just depends what kind of person you are, and what style of films you enjoy.

Edited February 14, 2009 by Sexy Lexy

[Asuka's Gonna Kill You]

Well you should still see it for yourself before you judge it too harshly.

You're right. I'm just bummed because I started out not caring about it at all, then got revved up after seeing the trailers and then deflated again after the wave of bad reviews. I expect them from critics, but it's a bit concerning coming from EWB. It'd be one thing if it was the mega backlash to Halloween that we had, but it's more of a "meh," which really killed my interest in rushing to the theater tonight.

Never judge a film on a review. Hasn't somebody already said it wasn't gorey and good like Hostel? A film that was a complete pile of shit and was only seen highly because it was something different? Maybe times have changed and people don't actually shit themselves as much as the old days. I really cant not watch this because some people here say it's shit, when quite a few people here claimed Halloween remake was shit, when it was sheer fantastic. The old classics will always be that bit better, the old school music, the weird camera shots, the creepy noises, the dodgy camera work at times, it just feels that bit more real and shit yourself style (I.E Original TCM).

People should possibly look at the positive after the last pile of shit they put out in Jason X. No, I haven't seen it yet so I'm not going to say the film is fantastic, it really does feel like the same case of what every horror gets nowadays though. Sometimes it just feels like horrors don't have the effect they once did, people don't get scared half as much anymore. I'm certainly looking forward to the movie whatever anybody says, it cant be as bad as shit films like Slumdog Millionaire that are winning award after award

[Fanku Kaibutsu]

I went to buy tickets for a 5:40 showing at 4pm, and the theater that was playing it was sold out until the midnight show. We went to that showing, and even though my eyes hurt and I had a headache for half the movie, I still thought it was pretty good. It wasn't amazing, or anything, but I was entertained throughout. I loved how they did the intro. My personal theory is

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Jason set the weed bushel there as a trap for stupid teenagers.