***spoilers*** UFC News and Discussion Thread

[Troy Maskell]

So Condit-Lawler is off the UFC 193 card in Melbourne.

It's replacement? Ronda versus Holm. Guess they realized they actually needed star power to break that record. 

EDIT: Oh, and that Lawler has a thumb injury.

Hmmm might be worth the nine hour bus trip.. 

[Noah]

EWB's UFC Australian Road Trip!

[EddieG]

UFC PTT Australia?

[Gazz]

Guys (and girl),

You can now buy fight worn UFC gear! Including female fighters sports bras and shorts!

http://www.ufcstore.com/MMA_Collectibles/Jessamyn_Duke_Ultimate_Fighting_Championship_UFC_on_FOX_Dillashaw_vs._Barao_2_Fight-Worn_Bra_Top_-_Fought_Elizabeth_Phillips_in_a_Womens_Bantamweight_Bout

Fucks sake...

[HC]

I swear back in 06/07 or so WWE used to have an auction page where you could buy like used chairs and divas autographed lingerie and stuff. Always thought that was weird.

[Gazz]

Reebok: Hey Michelle (Waterson), here's your $2500 sponsor money. Great UFC debut. Oh and FYI, we're selling your used shorts online for $1000. Don't worry, Mangana's pissed stain one's are ten G's...

I'm really starting to sour on the UFC as an organisation, which is a shame because I fucking love MMA.

[Benjamin]

I've been feeling that way, especially now after how they dealt with the Anthony Johnson situation. It was just such a "wipe their hands clean of it" move to keep him on this card because they obviously don't really give a shit what he's done. Guys like him and Thiago Silva should be instantly let go, because it's so obvious what they've been doing. 

And now with the Travis Browne thing, it sucks so fucking bad because MMA is awesome but seems to be full of assholes, including the people running the biggest organisation.

[HC]

The Reebok deal was so skeezy to begin with. Anything that takes money from the fighters and puts it in the pocket of the executives is garbage

[EddieG]

I've been feeling that way, especially now after how they dealt with the Anthony Johnson situation. It was just such a "wipe their hands clean of it" move to keep him on this card because they obviously don't really give a shit what he's done. Guys like him and Thiago Silva should be instantly let go, because it's so obvious what they've been doing. 

And now with the Travis Browne thing, it sucks so fucking bad because MMA is awesome but seems to be full of assholes, including the people running the biggest organisation.

Suspending him was wiping their hands clean?

There's a case going, outside of UFC's control. They suspend him. Said case clears him of any wrong doing, they unsuspend him.

If they fired him, they fired an innocent man for no reason.

Same with Browne right now, it's under investigation, it's out of UFC's control, they are not a judge or juror.

UFC do plenty wrong, but if these people get found innocent, or a case is dropped in a court of law, they aren't doing anything wrong in that aspect, except hiring assholes, but hey, assholes get hired in every business around the world.

[Your Mom]

Guys (and girl),

You can now buy fight worn UFC gear! Including female fighters sports bras and shorts!

http://www.ufcstore.com/MMA_Collectibles/Jessamyn_Duke_Ultimate_Fighting_Championship_UFC_on_FOX_Dillashaw_vs._Barao_2_Fight-Worn_Bra_Top_-_Fought_Elizabeth_Phillips_in_a_Womens_Bantamweight_Bout

Fucks sake...

It says "few left". Did she change bras between rounds? 

[Gazz]

I've been feeling that way, especially now after how they dealt with the Anthony Johnson situation. It was just such a "wipe their hands clean of it" move to keep him on this card because they obviously don't really give a shit what he's done. Guys like him and Thiago Silva should be instantly let go, because it's so obvious what they've been doing. 

And now with the Travis Browne thing, it sucks so fucking bad because MMA is awesome but seems to be full of assholes, including the people running the biggest organisation.

Suspending him was wiping their hands clean?

There's a case going, outside of UFC's control. They suspend him. Said case clears him of any wrong doing, they unsuspend him.

If they fired him, they fired an innocent man for no reason.

Same with Browne right now, it's under investigation, it's out of UFC's control, they are not a judge or juror.

UFC do plenty wrong, but if these people get found innocent, or a case is dropped in a court of law, they aren't doing anything wrong in that aspect, except hiring assholes, but hey, assholes get hired in every business around the world.

Well, with the Browne case they said there was insufficent evidence, despite his wife submitting photos of injuries, timelines of instances of abuse and a written statement. It's a police matter now as she's pressing charges, if he gets found guilty, UFC are going to look even more shady than usual.

[Your Mom]

Not sure I even want to know what that's all about

[Rich]

Short version, Browne beat up his wife (allegedly), she leaves him and they are separating, Browne is apparently now dating no other than proponent of grrrrl power and face of the UFC Romda Rousey.

[EddieG]

I've been feeling that way, especially now after how they dealt with the Anthony Johnson situation. It was just such a "wipe their hands clean of it" move to keep him on this card because they obviously don't really give a shit what he's done. Guys like him and Thiago Silva should be instantly let go, because it's so obvious what they've been doing. 

And now with the Travis Browne thing, it sucks so fucking bad because MMA is awesome but seems to be full of assholes, including the people running the biggest organisation.

Suspending him was wiping their hands clean?

There's a case going, outside of UFC's control. They suspend him. Said case clears him of any wrong doing, they unsuspend him.

If they fired him, they fired an innocent man for no reason.

Same with Browne right now, it's under investigation, it's out of UFC's control, they are not a judge or juror.

UFC do plenty wrong, but if these people get found innocent, or a case is dropped in a court of law, they aren't doing anything wrong in that aspect, except hiring assholes, but hey, assholes get hired in every business around the world.

Well, with the Browne case they said there was insufficent evidence, despite his wife submitting photos of injuries, timelines of instances of abuse and a written statement. It's a police matter now as she's pressing charges, if he gets found guilty, UFC are going to look even more shady than usual.

If he gets found guilty, then he gets released.

As far as I'm aware, America still works on "innocent until proven guilty"

[Gazz]

And he should be suspended until the legal case is resolved.

[Quom]

The whole Travis Browne thing is weird. UFC launches an investigation before it's a police matter, then decides it's inconclusive, then the wife presses charges?

It's one of those PR quirks, on one hand appearing proactive and investigating straight away could have looked good, but it now leaves them wide open for the police to find plenty of reasonable evidence, prosecute and UFC are left looking like they were either attempting a whitewash or cover-up. Terribly silly thing to get involved in unless it was to urge the wife to make a police report and offer her the support to do so so that everything could be cleared up one way or the other.

[Benjamin]

I've been feeling that way, especially now after how they dealt with the Anthony Johnson situation. It was just such a "wipe their hands clean of it" move to keep him on this card because they obviously don't really give a shit what he's done. Guys like him and Thiago Silva should be instantly let go, because it's so obvious what they've been doing. 

And now with the Travis Browne thing, it sucks so fucking bad because MMA is awesome but seems to be full of assholes, including the people running the biggest organisation.

Suspending him was wiping their hands clean?

There's a case going, outside of UFC's control. They suspend him. Said case clears him of any wrong doing, they unsuspend him.

If they fired him, they fired an innocent man for no reason.

Same with Browne right now, it's under investigation, it's out of UFC's control, they are not a judge or juror.

UFC do plenty wrong, but if these people get found innocent, or a case is dropped in a court of law, they aren't doing anything wrong in that aspect, except hiring assholes, but hey, assholes get hired in every business around the world.

With Johnson, I was more talking about what happened between him and the woman in gym where he went amok and threw her yoga mat across the room. Considering this wouldn't be the first time an incident in which he was being violent to a woman was brought to light, just making him give money to charity and take anger management seems extremely light. Also, did he not actually plead guilty to some form of domestic abuse once? I could be remembering it wrong, but he's been accused of such behavior multiple times by multiple women, and where there's smoke there's usually fire. Plus with the yoga mat incident, he was the one who brought it up on social media, and defended his actions relentlessly without thinking he was in the wrong.

Also, with the incident prior to this where he was suspended, I believe the charges were dropped, not that he was cleared by an investigation.

The whole Browne thing felt like a complete whitewash routine. 

[EddieG]

The whole Travis Browne thing is weird. UFC launches an investigation before it's a police matter, then decides it's inconclusive, then the wife presses charges?

It's one of those PR quirks, on one hand appearing proactive and investigating straight away could have looked good, but it now leaves them wide open for the police to find plenty of reasonable evidence, prosecute and UFC are left looking like they were either attempting a whitewash or cover-up. Terribly silly thing to get involved in unless it was to urge the wife to make a police report and offer her the support to do so so that everything could be cleared up one way or the other.

The difference between the UFC doing an investigation and the police, is that the police have a lot more tools at their disposal, the UFC just have one (Dana White ).

[SeanDMan]

And the Diaz brothers. I bet they could get to the bottom of it.

Assuming it was a joint.

[Quom]

The whole Travis Browne thing is weird. UFC launches an investigation before it's a police matter, then decides it's inconclusive, then the wife presses charges?

It's one of those PR quirks, on one hand appearing proactive and investigating straight away could have looked good, but it now leaves them wide open for the police to find plenty of reasonable evidence, prosecute and UFC are left looking like they were either attempting a whitewash or cover-up. Terribly silly thing to get involved in unless it was to urge the wife to make a police report and offer her the support to do so so that everything could be cleared up one way or the other.

The difference between the UFC doing an investigation and the police, is that the police have a lot more tools at their disposal, the UFC just have one (Dana White ).

Exactly, so why pre-empt a police investigation?

It would be as simple as putting a clause in all contracts that if a fighter is charged with one of the following offences they will be suspended. If you want to do the whole 'innocent until proven guilty' thing then pay their contract whilst suspended (you could also have a clause that this is re-paid if they're found guilty). 

Not that long ago this was seen as a barbaric sport. Having a bunch of fighters charged with beating their spouses is quickly going to change public sentiment back that way. It's going to be far more damaging than PED stuff.