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@WWEALLWORLD#ALLWORLD wants nothing but the best for it's clients. As of last night I'm sure Mr. Ryan is enjoying his AW experience. #Champagne&Caviar

I'd wait for something more official then that, according to Cole last night Ryan's being 'courted' by AW, but hasnt actually joined up.

add Mason Ryan to the All World stable.

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After watching CZW BOTB:

-Raise Lince Dorado's stiffness to 46. Lower his speed to 81.

-Raise AR Fox's brawl to 52, stiffness to 44, and selling to 76.

-Add ACH to the game:

ACH

Male

December, 24

Lightweight

Image

B: 62

S: 82

T: 58

Stiff: 43

Sell: 74

Over: 25

Charisma: 77

Att: 89

Behav: 87

SS Look.

$8,000

Speaks

American

Primary: Best 450 Ever (Top Rope)

Secondary: Dragon-Fly (Top Rope)

Face, Fun Babyface

-Raise Maria Kanellis' brawl to 40, speed to 47, technical to 43, stiffness to 34, selling to 60, and charisma to 74.

-Raise White Lotus' stiffness to 47. Lower White Lotus' technical to 50, selling to 64, and attitude to 68. Make him a lightweight.

-Add a loyalty between John Silver and Mikey Whipwreck (his trainer).

-Add Pro Wrestling Syndicate to the game:

Pro Wrestling Syndicate

PWS

Cult, 15

America

4,000,000

Risk: 66

Production: 40

Advertising: 55

Merchandising: 30

Development: None

Training Camp: PWS Wrestling School, Average

Staff:

-Eric Tapout (owner) (unsackable)

-Matt Bennett (referee) (remove him from ECWA to put here) (raise his age to 28)

Workers:

-Sami Callihan (Tweener, Upper Mid Card, Crazy. Remove him from PWG to work here. Make this his third promotion, with CZW his second)

-Anthony Nese (Face, Mid Card, Old School Face.)

-Pat Buck (Face, Lower Mid-Card, Old School Face. Written/Unsackable/Creative Control)

-John Silver (Face, Opener, Old School Face.)

-Jay Lethal (Heel, Main Event, Comedy Character.)

-Alex Reynolds (Heel, Opener, Arrogant.)

-Davey Richards (Face, Main Event, No Gimmick Needed.)

-Devon Moore (Heel, Mid Card, Extremist.)

-The Sheik (Heel, Mid Card, Sheik.)

-Jerry Lynn (Face, Main Event, Old School Face.)

-Kevin Matthews (Heel, Lower Mid Card, Arrogant.) (Raise his brawl to 50, technical to 40, stiffness to 35, selling to 84, and overnerss to 37. Check Menacing and High Spots.)

-Larry Legend (Face, Non-Wrestler, Staff Member.)

-Matt Hardy (Face, Main Eventer, Old School Face.)

-Marty Jannetty (Face, Upper Mid Card, Old School Face.)

-Samuray Del Sol (Face, Mid Card, Luchadore.)

-Teddy Hart (Face, Mid Card, Highlight Reel.)

-Wes Draven (Face, Jobber, Ninja.)

-Mark Briscoe (Face, Upper Mid Card, Redneck.)

-Jay Briscoe (Face, Upper Mid Card, Redneck.)

-The Warlord (Heel, Mid Card, Monster.) (Raise his overness to 50.)

-The Barbarian (Heel, Mid Card, Monster.) (Raise his overness to 50.)

-Rebecca Reyes (Heel, Lower Mid Card, Bitch.) (Change her name to Reby Sky. Raise her overness to 36.)

-Zema Ion (Face, Upper Mid Card, Highlight Reel.)

-Jillian Hall (Heel, Upper Mid Card, Obnoxious.)

-Maria Kanellis (Face, Upper Mid Card, Valley Girl.)

-Brittney Savage (Face, Lower Mid Card, Cocky.) (Raise her brawl to 43, technical to 44, and overness to 32.)

-Amazing Red (Heel, Upper Mid Card, Show Stealer.)

-Virgil (Heel, Manager, Bodyguard.)

-Matt Jackson (Face, Upper Mid Card, Highlight Reel.)

-Nick Jackson (Face, Upper Mid Card, Highlight Reel.)

-Balls Mahoney (Face, Upper Mid Card, Extremist.)

-Add a stable: Reality Check (Kevin Matthews (leader), Devon Moore, Jay Lethal, Amazing Red, Virgil. Have Virgil manage all others in the stable.)

-Add a tag team between Pat Buck and John Silver, The Lone Rangers, 10 exp.

Belts:

-PWS Heavyweight (Sami Callihan, 40 prestige)

-PWS Tri State (Anthony Nese, 20 prestige)

-PWS Tag Team (John Silver and Pat Buck, 15 prestige)

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-Add Pro Wrestling Syndicate to the game:

Pro Wrestling Syndicate

PWS

Cult, 15

America

4,000,000

Risk: 66

Production: 40

Advertising: 55

Merchandising: 30

Development: None

Training Camp: PWS Wrestling School, Average

Staff:

-Eric Tapout (owner) (unsackable)

-Matt Bennett (referee) (remove him from ECWA to put here) (raise his age to 28)

Workers:

-Sami Callihan (Tweener, Upper Mid Card, Crazy. Remove him from PWG to work here. Make this his third promotion, with CZW his second)

-Anthony Nese (Face, Mid Card, Old School Face.)

-Pat Buck (Face, Lower Mid-Card, Old School Face. Written/Unsackable/Creative Control)

-John Silver (Face, Opener, Old School Face.)

-Jay Lethal (Heel, Main Event, Comedy Character.)

-Alex Reynolds (Heel, Opener, Arrogant.)

-Davey Richards (Face, Main Event, No Gimmick Needed.)

-Devon Moore (Heel, Mid Card, Extremist.)

-The Sheik (Heel, Mid Card, Sheik.)

-Jerry Lynn (Face, Main Event, Old School Face.)

-Kevin Matthews (Heel, Lower Mid Card, Arrogant.) (Raise his brawl to 50, technical to 40, stiffness to 35, selling to 84, and overnerss to 37. Check Menacing and High Spots.)

-Larry Legend (Face, Non-Wrestler, Staff Member.)

-Matt Hardy (Face, Main Eventer, Old School Face.)

-Marty Jannetty (Face, Upper Mid Card, Old School Face.)

-Samuray Del Sol (Face, Mid Card, Luchadore.)

-Teddy Hart (Face, Mid Card, Highlight Reel.)

-Wes Draven (Face, Jobber, Ninja.)

-Mark Briscoe (Face, Upper Mid Card, Redneck.)

-Jay Briscoe (Face, Upper Mid Card, Redneck.)

-The Warlord (Heel, Mid Card, Monster.) (Raise his overness to 50.)

-The Barbarian (Heel, Mid Card, Monster.) (Raise his overness to 50.)

-Rebecca Reyes (Heel, Lower Mid Card, Bitch.) (Change her name to Reby Sky. Raise her overness to 36.)

-Zema Ion (Face, Upper Mid Card, Highlight Reel.)

-Jillian Hall (Heel, Upper Mid Card, Obnoxious.)

-Maria Kanellis (Face, Upper Mid Card, Valley Girl.)

-Brittney Savage (Face, Lower Mid Card, Cocky.) (Raise her brawl to 43, technical to 44, and overness to 32.)

-Amazing Red (Heel, Upper Mid Card, Show Stealer.)

-Virgil (Heel, Manager, Bodyguard.)

-Matt Jackson (Face, Upper Mid Card, Highlight Reel.)

-Nick Jackson (Face, Upper Mid Card, Highlight Reel.)

-Balls Mahoney (Face, Upper Mid Card, Extremist.)

-Add a stable: Reality Check (Kevin Matthews (leader), Devon Moore, Jay Lethal, Amazing Red, Virgil. Have Virgil manage all others in the stable.)

-Add a tag team between Pat Buck and John Silver, The Lone Rangers, 10 exp.

Belts:

-PWS Heavyweight (Sami Callihan, 40 prestige)

-PWS Tri State (Anthony Nese, 20 prestige)

-PWS Tag Team (John Silver and Pat Buck, 15 prestige)

A few notes, I would put PWS's money lower and perhaps lower them to a Regional at 75 awareness. They are known but I feel that they are not as known as say a CZW, CHIKARA or DGUSA. I would also lower their money to 2,000,000.

Raise DGUSA's money to 3,000,000.

Raise RoH's money to 5,000,000.

Lower LLUSA to a Regional at 80 awareness and lower their money to 1,800,000.

Lower JAPW to a Regional at 70 awareness?

Edit: Raise CMLL's money to 4,500,000.

Raise CHIKARA's money to 2,000,000

Second Edit: Both Samuray Del Sol, Devon Moore and Davey Richards are maxed out. (Samuray with AAA, DGUSA and CZW and 2CW; Moore in CZW, JAPW & NWA F-1; andROH and PWG for Richards (perhaps remove 2CW?))

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PWS is drawing more than ROH or CZW. They should at the least be a low cult, in my opinion.

-Make Insane Lane a face, fun babyface. Make him a non wrestler. Check high spots. Raise his charisma to 74.

-Raise Mad Man Pondo's charisma to 73.

-Lower Jack Victory's brawl to 62. Raise his technical to 20 and charisma to 60.

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PWS is drawing more than ROH or CZW. They should at the least be a low cult, in my opinion.

-Make Insane Lane a face, fun babyface. Make him a non wrestler. Check high spots. Raise his charisma to 74.

-Raise Mad Man Pondo's charisma to 73.

-Lower Jack Victory's brawl to 62. Raise his technical to 20 and charisma to 60.

Somehow I find PWS out drawing RoH hard to believe...

I am not if there is an alter ego entry for Samuray (as in currently used by a worker in the game) but if not add it to Samuray Del Sol's alter egos.

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PWS is drawing more than ROH or CZW. They should at the least be a low cult, in my opinion.

-Make Insane Lane a face, fun babyface. Make him a non wrestler. Check high spots. Raise his charisma to 74.

-Raise Mad Man Pondo's charisma to 73.

-Lower Jack Victory's brawl to 62. Raise his technical to 20 and charisma to 60.

Somehow I find PWS out drawing RoH hard to believe...

I am not if there is an alter ego entry for Samuray (as in currently used by a worker in the game) but if not add it to Samuray Del Sol's alter egos.

ROH draws anywhere from 300-800 (I've heard), maybe a few more on a good day. I know PWS has been drawing 1000 lately.

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Case for Jerry Lawler being on an open contract: simply put, EWR isn't an entirely realistic game. A guy can work for two promotions at once on normal game play. I remember someone saying something about let's start the game realistically, even if it doesn't end up that way via game play. Doing that would constitute Lawler being on an open contract (as well as Cole being a worker).

Well, I'm the one that made the comment of starting the game as realistic as possible. Dunno if you honestly didn't know that, or were using the comment to strengthen your case. :)

The thing is, yes, one of my goals is to start the game as realistic as possible. I'm pretty sure that, realistically, Lawler would never agree to a contract with any wrestling promotions that conflicts with his WWE commitments. I could also say that, "realistically," a good chunk of the workers in TNA should be on open contracts, as I'm pretty sure that a fair amount of the workers in TNA take more "independent" bookings than Lawler does.

While we can't stop unrealistic things happening in the game, such as WWE releasing a junkload of people, etc, we CAN control an independent promotion from signing Lawler from WWE, or a worker from TNA, which obviously wouldn't happen in real life.

I also HIGHLY doubt that Michael Cole would EVER wrestle for another promotion, so I honestly don't see how Cole being a worker is "realistic." Especially considering the fact that in EWR, workers can't be Play-By-Play announcers. Cole is much more a Play-By-Play announcer than he ever was (or will be) a wrestler.

Lizzy Borden's age may be off as well, as according to cagematch and wiki she was born in December of 1977, making her 34, not 35.

http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/local/neighborhoods-city/porn-producer-wife-get-1-year-jail-terms-347794/

This article lists her at age 32 on July 2, 2009. I would assume, since this was tied to a court case, that they would have access to the ages of the defendants. IMDB also lists her birthdate as 12/20/76, making her 35 today.

-Bill

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Make Mike Bennett's birth month May: https://twitter.com/...934659028500480 (He should be 27 by June's Update)

EDIT: Raise Harlem Bravado's age to 23 and birth month to April: http://cagematch.net/?id=2&nr=9129&name=Harlem+Bravado

Raise Lancelot Bravado's age to 26 and birth month to September: http://cagematch.net/?id=2&nr=9130&name=Lance+Bravado

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Taken from cagematch:

Lamar Braxton Porter(The former Cable Jones) should have loyalties to Mikey Whipwreck and Paul Lauria (source.)

Aplloyon should have a loyalty to Mikey Whipwreck (source.)

Edit: Green Ant should have CHIKARA Special: Green and Cloverleaf as his finishers.

Rename Gringo Loco II to Tyme Paige.

Add Dragon Fly, Dargonfly Black and Dragon Fly Black. to Dragonfly's alter egos.

Rename Marcus Ownes to Vic Adams.

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Pretty sure this has been mentioned but, there are 3 workers who were on the PWS roster that have 3 promotions already:

Davey Richards (ROH - PWG - 2CW)

Devon Moore (CZW - JAPW - NWA-F1)

Samuray Del Sol (DGUSA - CZW - AAW)

Dunno which promotions (if any) should be subbed out for PWS.

I would suggest removing Latin Dragon's alter ego entry. I know on Cagematch he and Junior Morales are listed as one in the same but the pictures do not match up. One is almost as pale as Sheamus and the other is tanned...

Maybe I'm not understanding, but the only Alter Ego that is under "Latin Dragon" is "Junior Morales." He's also worked in CZW and NWA-F1 (Though he hasn't worked NWA-F1 since last August, according to Cagematch) which are the two promotions he's in in EWR currently. Any type of research I've done has led back to Latin Dragon being Junior Morales... Unfortunately, he's not on CZW or NWA-F1's roster pages currently. It's not possible that at one point, the guy was tanned and now he's not, or vice versa?

-Bill

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I would suggest removing Latin Dragon's alter ego entry. I know on Cagematch he and Junior Morales are listed as one in the same but the pictures do not match up. One is almost as pale as Sheamus and the other is tanned...

Maybe I'm not understanding, but the only Alter Ego that is under "Latin Dragon" is "Junior Morales." He's also worked in CZW and NWA-F1 (Though he hasn't worked NWA-F1 since last August, according to Cagematch) which are the two promotions he's in in EWR currently. Any type of research I've done has led back to Latin Dragon being Junior Morales... Unfortunately, he's not on CZW or NWA-F1's roster pages currently. It's not possible that at one point, the guy was tanned and now he's not, or vice versa?

-Bill

Do the time tables between the Latin Dragon from California's last show and the first show of the east coast's Latin Dragon line-up to possibly be the same person, yes. COULD he be tanned at one point and no longer is now, Perhaps. The problem I see is the skin tone looks too different to me.

I have found a video of the two and it is inconclusive to me. Junior Morales vs. Matt Carlos

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and Fredo Majors & Kit Osbourne vs. Latin Dragon and DA Law
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I would suggest removing Latin Dragon's alter ego entry. I know on Cagematch he and Junior Morales are listed as one in the same but the pictures do not match up. One is almost as pale as Sheamus and the other is tanned...

Maybe I'm not understanding, but the only Alter Ego that is under "Latin Dragon" is "Junior Morales." He's also worked in CZW and NWA-F1 (Though he hasn't worked NWA-F1 since last August, according to Cagematch) which are the two promotions he's in in EWR currently. Any type of research I've done has led back to Latin Dragon being Junior Morales... Unfortunately, he's not on CZW or NWA-F1's roster pages currently. It's not possible that at one point, the guy was tanned and now he's not, or vice versa?

-Bill

Do the time tables between the Latin Dragon from California's last show and the first show of the east coast's Latin Dragon line-up to possibly be the same person, yes. COULD he be tanned at one point and no longer is now, Perhaps. The problem I see is the skin tone looks too different to me.

I have found a video of the two and it is inconclusive to me. Junior Morales vs. Matt Carlos

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and Fredo Majors & Kit Osbourne vs. Latin Dragon and DA Law

I guess the "short version" of my post probably works better: The "Latin Dragon" currently in the game is Junior Morales. Even if there is another "Latin Dragon" out there (which there may or may not be, I personally am not sure) he's not in the game, so I don't see the issue with using the alter ego that we KNOW is correct.

If we ever add the other "Latin Dragon" (again, if there even IS one) we can certainly adjust the Alter Egos at that time, but for now, I don't see a reason to.

-Bill

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Pretty sure this has been mentioned but, there are 3 workers who were on the PWS roster that have 3 promotions already:

Davey Richards (ROH - PWG - 2CW)

Devon Moore (CZW - JAPW - NWA-F1)

Samuray Del Sol (DGUSA - CZW - AAW)

Dunno which promotions (if any) should be subbed out for PWS.

I would suggest removing Latin Dragon's alter ego entry. I know on Cagematch he and Junior Morales are listed as one in the same but the pictures do not match up. One is almost as pale as Sheamus and the other is tanned...

Maybe I'm not understanding, but the only Alter Ego that is under "Latin Dragon" is "Junior Morales." He's also worked in CZW and NWA-F1 (Though he hasn't worked NWA-F1 since last August, according to Cagematch) which are the two promotions he's in in EWR currently. Any type of research I've done has led back to Latin Dragon being Junior Morales... Unfortunately, he's not on CZW or NWA-F1's roster pages currently. It's not possible that at one point, the guy was tanned and now he's not, or vice versa?

-Bill

Davey appears only seldom for 2CW, and has just started appearing for PWS, so I would probably remove him from 2CW. Devon Moore hasn't appeared for awhile for NWA F-1, so he can be removed from that. Samuray Del Sol appears regularly for CZW and DG-USA. I'm not sure if he still does for AAW. So if any, AAW. But if he is appearing regularly for AAW, leave him there, I suppose.

The Latin Dragon in the game is not Junior Morales. I've seen him without his mask, that is not what he looks like. Furthermore, Latin Dragon works for Side Show Pro, which is a sister promotion of Force-1, so he should be left on the roster.

I believe there enough spaces for PWS in the game, but if any were to be removed, IWC and MCW are good candidates.

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The Latin Dragon in the game is not Junior Morales. I've seen him without his mask, that is not what he looks like. Furthermore, Latin Dragon works for Side Show Pro, which is a sister promotion of Force-1, so he should be left on the roster.

Well, the picture, birthmonth and age, finishers, tag team and loyalty to Vinny Massaro (his trainer) are all for Junior Morales. Since obviously Cagematch thinks these two people are the same, I'll pull the one ingame out of CZW and NWA-F1 and rename him to Junior Morales. If you have stats for the other Latin Dragon, please post them and I'll get him on. That should solve the issue.

I believe there enough spaces for PWS in the game, but if any were to be removed, IWC and MCW are good candidates.

After adding PWS, there are 33 promotions in the game, so we can add one more. Screw the "Pinky & The Brain" thing, I've personally never seen it, so it could be that it isn't possible with the way the scenario is anyway. Plus, it certainly isn't "realistic." 34 promotions will allow for someone to still do "Backyard to Global" scenarios if they wish. MCW was recently overhauled and I personally overhauled IWC earlier this week as well. There are some workers not in the game, but that's the case for damn near all of the promotions.

-Bill

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Yeah I've always been glad of scenarios having 34/35 promotions in so that Pinky and the Brain crap never happens. If I spend 10-15 minutes loading up a game and then that window pops up, I have to start all over again. Cartoon mice are not the type of owners I want to see in the game :P

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Yeah I've always been glad of scenarios having 34/35 promotions in so that Pinky and the Brain crap never happens. If I spend 10-15 minutes loading up a game and then that window pops up, I have to start all over again. Cartoon mice are not the type of owners I want to see in the game :P

Well, I probably start about 10 "New Games" per day while updating and, even with 2 open promotions, I have literally NEVER seen it happen....

-Bill

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Pretty sure this has been mentioned but, there are 3 workers who were on the PWS roster that have 3 promotions already:

Davey Richards (ROH - PWG - 2CW)

Devon Moore (CZW - JAPW - NWA-F1)

Samuray Del Sol (DGUSA - CZW - AAW)

Dunno which promotions (if any) should be subbed out for PWS.

I would suggest removing Latin Dragon's alter ego entry. I know on Cagematch he and Junior Morales are listed as one in the same but the pictures do not match up. One is almost as pale as Sheamus and the other is tanned...

Maybe I'm not understanding, but the only Alter Ego that is under "Latin Dragon" is "Junior Morales." He's also worked in CZW and NWA-F1 (Though he hasn't worked NWA-F1 since last August, according to Cagematch) which are the two promotions he's in in EWR currently. Any type of research I've done has led back to Latin Dragon being Junior Morales... Unfortunately, he's not on CZW or NWA-F1's roster pages currently. It's not possible that at one point, the guy was tanned and now he's not, or vice versa?

-Bill

Davey appears only seldom for 2CW, and has just started appearing for PWS, so I would probably remove him from 2CW. Devon Moore hasn't appeared for awhile for NWA F-1, so he can be removed from that. Samuray Del Sol appears regularly for CZW and DG-USA. I'm not sure if he still does for AAW. So if any, AAW. But if he is appearing regularly for AAW, leave him there, I suppose.

The Latin Dragon in the game is not Junior Morales. I've seen him without his mask, that is not what he looks like. Furthermore, Latin Dragon works for Side Show Pro, which is a sister promotion of Force-1, so he should be left on the roster.

I believe there enough spaces for PWS in the game, but if any were to be removed, IWC and MCW are good candidates.

Samuray Del Sol is still on the AAW roster page. He wrestled last with them in February but he was only in PWS once. I would leave him in AAW for now. (Source: Cagematch)

Davey Richards is still on the 2CW roster page. He only wrestled in PWS once back in January. Even though he is on the roster for 2CW, he shouldn't be but I would not put him in PWS either. (Source: Cagematch)

Bill, I think I gave stats for Junior Morales a few months back. Unless you altered the stats to be Junior Morales, they should be in the February/March thread. If you didn't make the stats for Morales, just add Morales as a new worker and revert the relationships to the new entry. I do placeholders for relationships anytime I add a wrestler for a game.

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Bill, I think I gave stats for Junior Morales a few months back. Unless you altered the stats to be Junior Morales, they should be in the February/March thread.

Yeah, I remembered that someone had... I ran a search and got them... Pretty sure I did alter the stats, as they were pretty similar. So, Morales has been renamed and had stats adjusted... The stats I would need are for this other Latin Dragon...

-Bill

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