Benji Posted April 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2008 About The Doctor being sexual, according to the previews she's a clone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vamp Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 I don't think the missing bees is the "Badwolf" of this series, I think it's a red herrin. Along with random comments about the furry yellow and black buggers, there's been two instances in two episodes now where someone's mentioned that their planet has gone missing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji Posted April 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 Remember one season we had two keywords, one was a half season one and the other was the end of season one, I remember because it confused the hell out of me at the time. One was "Burn With Me" (which was the Satan Pit/Impossible Planet double) and I can't remember the other for the finale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin R.W. Posted April 20, 2008 Admin Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 From what I've seen, there is no "keyword" this year, but rather one element from each episode will unravel the mystery of the finale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji Posted April 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 From what I've seen, there is no "keyword" this year, but rather one element from each episode will unravel the mystery of the finale. Where'd you find that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin R.W. Posted April 20, 2008 Admin Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 Various interviews with RTD I seem to recall seeing the past couple of weeks - though to be fair, it may be slightly inaccurate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji Posted April 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 Ah fair enough. I've got to admit, so far this season I really feel like I'm watching some classic Who, Catherine Tate has absolutely blown me away with how entertaining she is and I'm more than willing to eat my words and admit I was wrong there, she and Tennant have undeniable chemistry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmoru Suzuki Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 (edited) I have mixed feelings on the episode. I enjoyed it just fine on the whole, but the odd thing bugged me, like the Ood being born with a brain in their hand was a bit naff, they could have achieved the same effect with whatever corporation it was drugging the Ood to pacify them. Hell if they wanted to go down the labotomy route, they didn't even need to have a brain in the hand thing. Tim McInnery turning into an Ood was bollocks, and I felt they missed the chance to do a 'moral outrage' commentary on slavery (or even on animal rights if slavery would have been too 'heavy' a subject), I felt it hinted at doing something deeper in this regard but never quite went ahead with it which bugged me a lot, it was a bit of a missed chance. Still, barring those quibbles, the episode was fine. I really liked how they didn't do the predictable thing and have the Indian lass turn good, and the comment at the end about the song ending was great. It was generally decent beyond that. The Ood dying in the snow at the start was really well handled too. I agree with Skummy that it's a shame the Ood are essentially 'saved' and thus out of the show, but they could always do an episode where some maneolent force or other mind-controls some Ood. It'd be a bit of a re-hash, but it's a way of them coming back. They do need to build new recurring villians, The Sycorax would make an awesome returning foe (from the first Christmas special), they could do a lot with them, and one episode wasn't nearly enough. I'll say, three shows in, I'm enjoying this series. After the rep I got for 'hating' series three (which I didn't), this must be a shock >_> Edited April 20, 2008 by timmayy Aaron XXIV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skummy Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 Eh...I'm glad they didn't go down the route of banging on about slavery - they kept it fairly subtle, although blatant enough that it couldn't be missed, and the small period when it looked like it might be heavily politicised was pretty cringeworthy - any attempt at social commentary on a glaringly obvious and heavy-handed scale is usually pretty dire in Doctor Who - just look at Tegan's "sweatshop" comment in Logopolis, which the Donna/Doctor "where do you think your clothes come from" exchange came dangerously close to. I do think the Ood brain-in-hand thing was a bit naff - what an evolutionary backwater that is, even for a telepathic species. But then of course, it's plausible that they've never had a natural predator before, or even that they haven't "evolved" in the traditional sense - the transforming of a human being into an Ood could suggest that they were originally all at some point spawned from another species. I also have to admit that Tate has been great thus far - didn't much enjoy her in the first episode, as she was still "being" Catherine Tate with some rubbish comedy in parts, and I'm sure we can expect bits of that from her in the future still, but she's been lightyears better than I ever thought she would be, and there is a definite chemistry there and, as I said earlier, one we've not really seen before, with an assistant that can get a bit mouthy and isn't afraid to answer back or speak her mind, it's an interesting dynamic. On top of the "one element from each episode" thing, according to Wiki the series finale has been planned for four years. It could be interesting to guess what the "elements" are - bees disappearing, song ending, Shadow Proclamation, "Medusa Cascade"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWho87 Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 i liked the Ood episode because i love how they can take what can look like a scary creature and make it act so peaceful well that is unless its attacking i did love that quote from Tate about the communicator being like a persil ball cant wait for the next episode i love when they bring back a classic i just hope they dont fuck them up like they did the cybermen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji Posted April 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 Loved the Sontarans (and their little human friend is just dickish enough to be a baddie but not to be annoying), I'm wondering how they're allowed to just attack with the Shadow Proclamation in effect or if they're outright going againt it. Like most two parters of the new series the first one doesn't seem to have been fantastic but I'm sure it's set something up for the next one we're unaware of. Probably the worst episode of the series but it was still acceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skummy Posted April 26, 2008 Report Share Posted April 26, 2008 I really liked this episode - yes, it was nothing spectacular, but it's nice to get something of a change of pace, which you only really get in the two-parters now. Watching older series of Doctor Who, you'll get two or three episodes where nothing really "happens", in the build up to something important in that story arc, whereas now every episode seems to have more of a set pattern, with predictable action sequences, and it was nice to just get some solid tension building instead. As for whether or not they're going against the Shadow Proclamation, it would appear to me that rather than directly attacking Earth, it seems, especially with the phrase "the planet is going nuclear" in the teasers for next week, that perhaps they're converting Earth into an energy source, or even a weapon, for a greater purpose. What, we do not know. It's also distinctly possible that Sontar isn't party to the Shadow Proclamation; the Sontarans aren't a race likely to abide by galactic protocol niceties. Also, a quick Google points out that a partial anagram of "Shadow Proclamation" is "The Doctor is a pawn" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFF Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Worst episode so far? I thought it was possibly the best, to be honest. The pacing was perfect, building up throughout the episode to the frantic finale. The sontarans were really good imo, and I'm glad they are back. Seriously, I cannot fault the episode at all and am pumped for next week's follow on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Reil Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Not being much of a Doctor Who fan (I've never seen a non-Tennant episode, and only a few of his, but I know roughly what's going on), I liked this week's. The Sontarans are pretty badass, and have some great one-liners ("It was the best war of all time, and we weren't allowed to take part!"). And the human lackey reminds me a lot of Jonathan from Buffy. I couldn't help wondering though, why they just don't break the car window. I mean, it's not exactly difficult. I'll try and keep up from now on, although I've said that twice now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skummy Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Incidentally, my mate reckons the Sontarans are altering the temperature and atmosphere on Earth to make it hospitable for use as a Sontaran planet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji Posted April 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Incidentally, my mate reckons the Sontarans are altering the temperature and atmosphere on Earth to make it hospitable for use as a Sontaran planet. That was my first thought, but I don't really like the idea because when the General came to earth he seemed to suffer no ill effects whatsoever and didn't hesitate to take off his helmet (though that may just be Sontaran pride). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PkmnTrainerJ Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 Having only seen the old Sontarons on Wikipedia somewhere, I was quite happy with how these guys looked and their thing of having to always face forward. I also like that in this series the sonic screwdriver is now seen as a child's plaything by most of the villains. As someone else said, the genius guy also reminded me of Johnathon from Buffy, which is a good thing. I hope he lives through whatever is coming. I was hoping for some naked Freema when her clone arose but no... I demand a clone fight though, and for Martha to have to hurry in to the TARDIS for some reason or another instead of strolling in after everything is nice and peaceful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFF Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 (edited) Having only seen the old Sontarons on Wikipedia somewhere, I was quite happy with how these guys looked and their thing of having to always face forward. I also like that in this series the sonic screwdriver is now seen as a child's plaything by most of the villains. As someone else said, the genius guy also reminded me of Johnathon from Buffy, which is a good thing. I hope he lives through whatever is coming. I was hoping for some naked Freema when her clone arose but no... I demand a clone fight though, and for Martha to have to hurry in to the TARDIS for some reason or another instead of strolling in after everything is nice and peaceful. Yeah, I hope the Jonathon Luke kid gets away, tbh, and doesn't do the sterotypical 'oh noes what wuz I thinkin' kind of deal. He'd make a pretty decent semi-recurring character imo. Edited April 27, 2008 by Kerr-F'n-Avon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PkmnTrainerJ Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 It'd be cool if Luke Rattigan (okay, sue me, I check Wikipedia) serves as an aid to other villains such as The Rani, as people suspect she'll be back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Posted April 27, 2008 Report Share Posted April 27, 2008 I just wish the damn show would get back on the air in australia. I really want to see that 4th season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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