AMC's "The Walking Dead"

[IDOL]

10 hours ago, Voyeur said:

Given the events that concluded tonight's episode, I have a prediction for the season finale.

 

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Daryl and Carol will take the place of Glen and Maggie in the comics, and Daryl will be the one Negan kills upon arrival. The death of Glen in the comics was so impactful because Glen was a beloved character. In the TV universe, that's Daryl. It immediately establishes Negan as the absolute worst villain we've seen, and strays enough from the comic to still be a surprise. Everyone KNOWS how Negan shows up. It's constantly hinted at on Talking Dead. We know what's coming. Perfect opportunity for the writers to flip the script.

 

 

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I've been saying this since Negan's arrival was announced. Daryls death would be the most impactful way for him to arrive. I don't want it to happen, but I have a feeling that is what we are getting.

[Ruki]

4 minutes ago, iDOL said:

 

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I'd be ok with that, honestly. Daryl has run his course in my mind. Plus, isn't this the final season he's been contracted?

[TGWL]

11 hours ago, Ruki said:

 

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Rick will just take the next one at the hilltop.  

[Your Mom]

46 minutes ago, Ruki said:

 

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Thought that was just a rumor or someone playing a prank or something

[Ruki]

Season finale is gonna be 90 minutes.

[Noah]

Awful punnery, you have been warned.

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[MDK]

Boo

[Ruki]

Well......shit.

[Lint]

ack!

Ok, accidently did that in quotes, not spoilers and didn't realize it until I hit post. 

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But I am glad their finally making The Saviors look competent.  They've been rather disappointing and getting a lot of people killed by Ricks group

 

[Benji]

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I genuinely can't think of a final shot I've disliked that much in a TV show. It made me think of kids using tomato ketchup as fake blood. Really took me out of what was supposed to be a major moment.

The constant cut aways from the violence pissed me off too. Really bad cinenatography in this episode.

 

[MalaCloudy Black]

I've only kept up through AVC reviews since like season.. I don't even know which season this is, 6? so probably since 3 or 4? but from what i understand..

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They made it a point for one of the Saviors to say that Daryl was going to be OK after being shot, right? I feel like that pretty much telegraphs that Daryl's going to die in the finale. Even when I was watching, TWD would do these type of things where someone would go "WELP, can't get worse right?" and of course, the next episode it gets exponentially worse.

 

[Noah]

1 hour ago, Cloudy said:

I've only kept up through AVC reviews since like season.. I don't even know which season this is, 6? so probably since 3 or 4? but from what i understand..

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They made it a point for one of the Saviors to say that Daryl was going to be OK after being shot, right? I feel like that pretty much telegraphs that Daryl's going to die in the finale. Even when I was watching, TWD would do these type of things where someone would go "WELP, can't get worse right?" and of course, the next episode it gets exponentially worse.

 

I'm seeing people convinced instead...(speculation about a future death)

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that Abraham will be the one to die. Something about him being spared from the tv equivalent of his comic death, only to be the one to assume the mantle of the one that gets his head smashed in by Negan on the tv show. Seems a few people convinced that's the reason why it wasn't Abraham getting the arrow through the eye

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2016/03/27/a-win-win-theory-about-who-negan-may-kill-on-the-walking-dead/#65accacf1692

That's the article I was thinking of. It's also interesting to note, in the comments, that there's some people listing what they see as supposed foreshadowing that Glenn will be the one to die.

 

[Lint]

Wish I could view that link, but Forbes blocks you from viewing their site if you have an ad blocker enabled

[Noah]

26 minutes ago, Lint said:

Wish I could view that link, but Forbes blocks you from viewing their site if you have an ad blocker enabled

I even threw in some of the more relevant comments for you @Lint Spoilers for anyone due to speculation about character death and mentions of comic book stuff.

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A Win-Win Theory About Who Negan May Kill On 'The Walking Dead'

We are marching toward the finale of The Walking Dead season six, and with only two episodes left, it seems pretty clear that we’re going to see Negan’s arrival at last, very soon.Negan arrives with a bang in the comics, but in order to delve into that deeper, I’m going to need to throw up some old-fashioned spoiler warnings.

Alright? Okay.

All comic readers know that when Negan shows up, he’s in a murdering mood, and ends up beating Glenn to death with his barbed-wire wrapped baseball bat, Lucille. All season long, comic readers have been taking bets on whether Negan would show up and actually kill Glenn, or if another cast member might be on the chopping block instead. What’s clear is that someone is going to die in the finale (or maybe in next season’s premiere), but question is…who? There have been many theories floating around all year, but last week something happened that really makes it seem like the showrunners are leaning in a particular direction. And it’s one I would have never predicted even a week ago, before the events of the last episode.

Last week was one of the strangest episodes of The Walking Dead yet, not because anything particularly outlandish happened, death, mayhem, the usual, but how it all went down was pretty unusual. It was one of the only times I can remember where there was a deliberate head fake with the set-up for a major death in the comics.

What I mean by that is that we have been approaching a point in the comics where Abraham meets his end. He and Eugene venture off on a scouting mission (to find a potential bullet-making factory) and in the middle of a conversation, *thwap* Abraham takes an arrow to the eye, finishes his thought, and falls down dead. The show set up this situation to a tee, and as soon as I saw Abraham and Eugene walking out of Alexandria together, I turned to my wife and said “Welp, Abraham’s going to die,” (and she said “Which one is he again?”) But as we all know, despite this purposeful mirroring of the comics, it was actually Denise who was killed exactly how Abraham was supposed to die. Talking in the open, arrow in the eye, dead within seconds. Why they killed Denise is a different conversation. She’s not exactly a huge player in the comics, and has changed quite a bit from that version of her (she was dating Heath, not Tara, for one). But really, the question is why did they spare Abraham?

You’re all smart, so I’m sure you see where I’m going with this.

My new theory? Negan is going to kill Abraham instead of Glenn. Instead of Daryl. Instead of anyone else. This is why he was spared, and why his exact comic death was pawned off to a “lesser” character. The groundwork for this has already been laid. Abraham was involved in the nuking of the motorcycle recon group, the assault on one of Negan’s bases, and the firefight that ensued in the woods after Denise’s death. That’s every major Savior confrontation so far. Granted, Negan has motive to kill lots of people (Daryl was also there for all three things), but Abraham seems to be making more of an impression than most. And the show has been giving him a lot of screentime lately. Usually the TWD does that with second-string characters (ie, not the ultra-core group) when they’re setting them up to die. I thought Abraham would die last week, with the arrow, but now it seems it might be next week, with Negan.

In the comic, Negan ends up capturing a big chunk of the group, and lines up Maggie, Glenn, Sophia, Carl, Rick, Heath, Michonne and Carl. He announces he’ll kill one of them to make an example for the rest of the group. He says he doesn’t want to be racist, ruling out Glenn, Michonne and Heath. He’s fascinated by Carl’s injury, and says he doesn’t want to make Rick a martyr, since he’s the leader. Maggie and Sophia (who might be Enid, if the show does this) are a “mother and child” he doesn’t want to kill. So eventually he literally goes “eenie-meenie-miney-moe” and lands on Glenn.

If they make this situation play out the same way, only now Abraham is in the mix, he is white, not the main leader, not a woman, and yet a dangerous soldier. Daryl would qualify in that role too, which is why I’ve been so scared for him, but now Abraham will still be alive when Negan gets there, so it could be him instead. Using Negan’s twisted logic, it very well could be Abraham who is the “right” person to kill, in his eyes.

Why do I describe this in my title as a “win-win” for the show? It’s a win for comic readers, because Abraham dies within two episodes of when he was supposed to, yet they still get to be surprised by a turn that wasn’t in the comics. It’s a win for show watchers, because they wouldn’t have to be yanked into another situation where Glenn dies, for real this time, after the shenanigans the show pulled in the first half of the season. It’s a win for everyone, because even though Abraham has his admirers, he is not at the level of fan-favorites like Glenn, Carol or especially Daryl, who would have otherwise all been in serious danger if Abraham had died last week and was not an option to be offered up for execution.

The other reason I believe in my own Abraham theory is that fundamentally, The Walking Dead does want to please its audience. We talk all the time about how shows like The Walking Dead and Game of Thrones are willing to kill anyone and “no one is safe,” but that really isn’t true. There is a limit. If George RR Martin kills Daenerys or Tyrion, for example, before the very end of the series, I’ll eat the seventh book. It’s the same reason (GoT spoilers) Jon Snow can’t actually be dead, but it’s okay for Catelyn and Rob Stark to die. There are major character deaths, and there are “major” character deaths.

In The Walking Dead’s case, Rick and Carl are going to be off limits indefinitely, but I also do not believe that the show wants to kill off Glenn (as that would anger everyone after the dumpster fiasco) nor do they want to kill Carol or Daryl, two other “originals” where their death would create a massive hole in the show and cause at least some devoted fans to probably literally have breakdowns. And part of this is a branding thing on some level. I mean, Daryl’s face is the tile image for the damn Walking Dead mobile game, for crying out loud. He’s an icon, at this point.

Abraham isn’t necessarily the “safest” pick. He’s still a longtime character and a prominent cast member, and his death would carry more weight that relative cop-outs like Negan killing Heath or Aaron or Spencer or other third-string characters. Even Morgan would be a relatively lame pick at this point. And yet, I’m not sure Abraham would go far enough either. Negan is the single most evil villain in the entire history of this series. By the end of his arc, he makes the Governor look like Eugene. When he showed up and killed Glenn, it was, and still is, the single most shocking moment of the comics. I would worry that if he kills Abraham and does not kill an ultra-fan favorite like Glenn, Carol or Daryl, some of that weight will be lost. Abraham ultimately would be a compromise pick. A sacrifice that would hurt, but not hurt too badly, given that the top five fan-favorite characters on the show would all remain alive and well. But if Negan showed up and killed say, Daryl, #1 on the list, that would make a statement and be one of the most memorable moments in TV history.

This is sort of fascinating turn if this is really what AMC has been planning. At this point, I’m convinced the Abraham theory is going to pan out, but the show has surprised me many times, so I obviously can’t say for sure. Otherwise, it seems very strange that Abraham dodged his own death for a reason that isn’t a set-up for this. I’ll have more thoughts on the pending Negan execution next week, but for now, this is the theory I’m rolling with.

 

 

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Dana Stribling a day ago

Nah. It’s Glenn who will be taking the hit. The dumpster fake-out was just an appetizer to get the viewers warmed-up for the main show. Also, TWD loves to foreshadow in clever ways. If you look back to that dumpster moment, right when the red-head coward shoots himself in front of Glenn, a misty spray of blood splatters on the right-side of Glenn’s face…My money’s on Lucille striking there as well.

 

 

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kimkim a day ago

It’s going to be Glen. When he drove off after Daryl, Maggie’s reflection was left standing in the review mirror. Getting smaller and smaller…

 

 

 

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Gloria Massey 7 hours ago

Your theory makes sense, particularly considering that during Abraham’s fight at the Hilltop Colony a few episodes ago, Abraham’s necklace (given to him by Rosita) fell in the dirt behind him, to be found, presumably by Rosita (or Sasha), after his death.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[EndOfAnEra]

Of the available options, I'd prefer

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Glen. Darryl and Abrqham still have backstories (Daryl) or lots of traction moving forward (both). For me, Glen is played out. There's not much left for him to do, and his death would give the greatest push to another character (Maggie) moreso than the other two.

 

[Noah]

18 minutes ago, EndOfAnEra said:

Of the available options, I'd prefer

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Glen. Darryl and Abrqham still have backstories (Daryl) or lots of traction moving forward (both). For me, Glen is played out. There's not much left for him to do, and his death would give the greatest push to another character (Maggie) moreso than the other two.

 

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Abraham to actually survive to the end of the tv show. I kind of like the idea of this guy who is seemingly destined to make the supreme sacrifice because he's this badass warrior, being there at the end. Whatever the end of the show will be.

 

[MDK]

Well, cock.

[Your Mom]

I hope it's 

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Negan! Negan goes to swing and BAM! He is shot and killed by...TOBIN! New hero! GO TOBIN! 

 

[Noah]

10 hours ago, MDK said:

Well, cock.

That would be a preferable alternative to killing anyone, I do admit. 

[Ruki]

Was that Trevor from GTAV?!