Official Premier League 2010/11 thread

[Hobo]

According to the media he was.

The same media outlets that Hodgson (according to Wiki at least) blamed for tarnishing his reputation based on his performance at Blackburn Rovers.

What is said in the media, rarely, carries any baring on reality. They just go with the mood. Hodgson is still out of his depth, but even a blind squirrel is eventually going to find a nut.

[-A-]

Yeah, that was the original point. The media swing wildly from one direction to another. It wasn't a comment on Hodgson's skills at all, only of their interpretation of them.

[Colly]

Cheers A. The general point is that the media don't like the middle ground. Hogdson is either great or shit, Hughton is either out on his ear or the Messiah etc etc. Its all bollocks.

[Pesci]

The media's always been horrible for stuff like that. I don't get why so many people still buy into their bullshit even though it's obvious they don't know what they're talking about. Especially the people who say The Sun's "good for footie". No it's not, and you're a moron

[DavidMarrio]

The media's always been horrible for stuff like that. I don't get why so many people still buy into their bullshit even though it's obvious they don't know what they're talking about. Especially the people who say The Sun's "good for footie". No it's not, and you're a moron

The Sun isn't good enough for anything.

[Guest Jacob]

Of course the Suns good for something. An institution thats been around for decades. One that every man looks forward to every day 52 weeks a years 365 days a year.

Hagar the Horrible.

[ONO]

It isn't available on a Sunday. >_>

[EddieG]

And if I'm not mistaken, they don't have a page 3 on saturdays.

[Shelty92]

So the controversial referee decisions continue. Sloppy penalty awarded for Blackpool and a red card followed for Ibanez. 1-0 Blackpool.

[Crybaby Bunting]

West Brom down to 9 within 30 minutes

[Lineker]

Liverpool have appointed ex-Tottenham director of football Damien Comolli as their director of football strategy.

The 38-year-old Frenchman was sacked by Spurs in October 2008 after three years at the club and later joined French outfit St Etienne as sporting director.

He will begin work with Reds owner John Henry and boss Roy Hodgson immediately.

"I am delighted to be joining Liverpool and look forward to working with John and Roy," said Comolli, who also spent seven seasons as a scout at Arsenal.

"I think we all realise there is a big job ahead, but we all share the vision that John has for rebuilding the club and bringing back the success that the supporters deserve."

Since succeeding Rafael Benitez as Liverpool manager last summer, Hodgson has endured a difficult start to life at Anfield.

His side were knocked out of the Carling Cup by Northampton, won only one of the first eight Premier League matches this season and were in the relegation zone until Sunday's late victory at Bolton.

Hodgson has been critical of the squad he inherited from Benitez and suggested he will work closely with Comolli and Henry to turn things around.

"I am looking forward to working with Damien whom I have known for many years," said former Fulham boss Hodgson.

"We are engaged in an exciting project here and he will bring a lot to the table. We all want to see moves to strengthen the squad and support player development over the next few years.

"John Henry and I are totally united in delivering on that ambition."

Henry's New England Sports Ventures (NESV) group completed a £300m takeover of Liverpool in October and the American indicated Comolli's appointment could be the first of several.

"Today's announcement is just the first step in creating a leadership group and structure designed to develop, enhance and implement our long-term philosophy of scouting, recruitment, player development and all of the other aspects necessary to build and sustain a club able to consistently compete at the highest level in European football," explained Henry.

"Damien has a proven track-record of identifying exciting young footballing talent and we are delighted that he has agreed to join Liverpool.

"Working closely with Roy Hodgson and the coaching staff, I know he will make a valuable contribution to strengthening the club and the squad as we move forward.

"We intend to be bold and innovative. We will not rest until we have restored Liverpool Football Club to the greatness Liverpool fans expect."

Seeking from experience, the man did far more bad than he did good. Undermining the manager, etc. However Roy may be used to a continental-style director of football type system, so we'll see.

[DavidMarrio]

See this is why i'm unsure whether it is a good thing or a bad thing. Comolli seemed to find some good potential players but also some not so good, Wenger used to use him as a scout at Arsenal and managed to find good talent and well most of us know what happened at Spurs some good but a few not so good.

This just kinda seems like a lack of trust in Roy in the transfer market from the new owners i'm hoping it doesn't go tits up but it really wouldn't suprise me if it did.

[ChrisSteeleAteMyHamster]

Bwahahahahahahaha Comolli.

Never thought I'd see him back in England again. He came close to destroying Tottenham. Singlehandedly. SINGLEHANDEDLY I TELLS YA!

Well maybe not, but he was still terrible.

[Pesci]

I just hate the term "director of football". And well, he seems like a bit of a cunt. Sure, Roy probably needs all the help he can get but when we get somebody decent again there'll probably be a lot of toe-stepping. Or is this just their intention to hire yes men and have them "coach" the team while Comolli does everything else? I don't like this.

[therockbox]

Damned lies, statistics and sabermetrics

By John Sinnott

Much like Rafael Benitez's time as Liverpool manager the arrival of Damien Comolli at Anfield as the club's director of football strategy is likely to divide opinion both with fans and pundits - good or bad, genius or idiot?

The position of director of football has become almost a dirty word within English football and it is hard to think of an example in the Premier League where it has not ended in tears.

The 38-year-old Comolli, who has been recruited from St Etienne, is a prime example. His time as Tottenham's director of football ended acrimoniously when he was dismissed along with manager Juande Ramos after the club's dreadful start to the 2008-09 season.

Across the Channel the picture is very different and most top European clubs have a director of football overseeing the club's strategy.

"The English model hasn't worked because chairmen haven't matched the right types," European scout Tor-Kristian Karlsen, who has worked for German clubs Hannover 96 and Bayer Leverkusen, told BBC Sport.

"Structurally, it always makes sense that the director of football arrives before the head coach or manager, so he can have a hand in appointing a person who shares his vision.

"It's key that the director of football has no coaching ambitions and that the training ground is the manager's domain - the areas of responsibility must be clearly defined as grey areas just create conflicts."

When Norwegian Karlsen was working for Leverkusen, the Bundesliga club's transfer operation was so profitable that it funded the BayArena outfit's entire operation.

Key to the success of Leverkusen, who reached the Champions League final in 2002, was then general manager Reiner Calmund, who was an ever present figure at the club as coaches came and went.

Leverkusen had 20 international scouts, five of them working full-time - one each in Brazil and Argentina - earning 50,000 euros (£44,000) a year.

"The philosophy was to be self sufficient and to buy up-and-coming young exciting players, often from Brazil, which Leverkusen could develop and sell on," the 35-year-old Karlsen added.

"Players like Dimitar Berbatov, Lucio, Juan, Ze Roberto and Emerson are good examples of this strategy."

Some of the players Comolli brought to White Hart Lane - Gareth Bale and Benoit Assou-Ekotto for example - provide a clue as to the Frenchman's modus operandi; buy young talent to ensure maximum resale value if they are to be sold on.

Comolli was also responsible for the signing current Tottenham squad members Luka Modric, Heurelho Gomes, David Bentley, Vedran Corluka and Roman Pavlyuchenko, as well as bringing current Manchester United striker Dimitar Berbatov into English football.

"Big wages and relatively high fees for players in their late 20s and early 30s does not fit with New England Sport Venture's vision," said writer Paul Tomkins, who recently met John W Henry for lunch after Liverpool's owner contacted him on Facebook, having read his books.

"Sometimes you need to pick up a canny older player as a bargain, but the average age of Joe Cole, Christian Poulsen, Raul Meireles and Paul Konchesky, plus the re-signed Fabio Aurelio, is 30," Tomkins continued.

"So far, only Meireles of those five has impressed Liverpool fans this season. I hope it can get back to how the likes of Pepe Reina, Fernando Torres, Javier Mascherano, Daniel Agger and Xabi Alonso, who were all bought when they were in their early 20s."

Liverpool's takeover by NESV prompted a swathe of newspaper articles suggesting that the Boston Red Sox's owners wanted to introduce the principle of sabermetrics to the Premier League.

Using statistical analysis to recruit players rather than rely on the subjective judgement of coaches and scouts, sabermetrics was an idea developed by baseball fan Bill James.

It was an idea put to the test with some success by the Oakland 'A's general manager Billy Beane and author Michael Lewis wrote the book "Moneyball" about the story, which is now being filmed, with Brad Pitt starring.

In the past Comolli has talked of his friendship with Beane, who Henry tried to bring to the Red Sox before hiring James as a consultant, while Chelsea's performance director Mike Forde is a disciple of sabermetrics.

Tomkins' latest book "Pay As You Play", which has been talked of as the football equivalent of "Moneyball", looks at the relationship between money and success in the Premier League.

"The data shows that it wasn't purely money behind [sir] Alex Ferguson's success at Manchester United, but that in some seasons - particularly the first few years, and at times when rivals posed a greater threat - it played a more pronounced role," wrote Tomkins and his co-authors Graeme Riley and Gary Fulcher.

That conclusion suggests that as much as NESV want to obtain more 'bang for their buck' in the transfer market if Liverpool are to win the Premier League in the future plenty of greenbacks will be needed. That is the size of the task facing Comolli.

Karlsen, however, remains sceptical about the application of statistical analysis to the business of talent identification.

"Baseball consists of set pieces, so it's perfect for cricket," argued Karlsen. "But football has too many variables, cultures and styles. It's difficult to rate players merely on statistics. Sabermetrics is a bit of a red herring in relation to football."

For Karlsen, who has described identifying talent as like "detective work", the key principles to transfers are timing, the ability to target cheaper and developing markets and to always have a resale value in mind.

"In addition to possessing the trained eye, what's really important is to understand the relationship between value and quality so you can compare players from different countries or even continents and their respective attributes and measure up which player represent best value," he commented.

The Norwegian pointed to his recommendation to German team Hannover to buy Hungarian international midfielder Szabolcs Huszti from French club Metz for £200,000, who was then sold to Russian team Zenit St Petersburg for £2.5m.

"Huszti might not be a household name but this transfer illustrates that you can create value and a business model out of shrewd player transactions," said Karlsen, who worked under Graham Taylor at Watford between 1998 and 2000.

"It's about knowing the world wide markets, prices and sniffing out an opportunity."

Another top European scout, who works for a top-four Premier League club, has also questioned whether statistical analysis would ever be able to evaluate a player's character.

"It's very important to consider a player's mentality. We have a very good spirit at our club, so you have to be very careful. If you bring two or three players with a bad attitude it could be disastrous," the scout, who did not want to be named, told BBC Sport.

"You don't have to have been a player to excel as a scout, but when you've played it's almost as if you can smell a good player. That's why it is important to watch players over a long period."

Key for this scout, who has been working for his club for eight years, was to build a long-term, trusting relationship with the manager and to be always watching and analysing.

"I love my life and football is my passion. I watch football all the time, even when I'm home, sometimes three games in an evening on televsion. My girlfriend hasn't watched a movie in six months," he added.

Like Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger, there is a little that Comolli does not know about the French market but Karlsen has suggested Liverpool's new football strategist should also look elsewhere as he goes about the business of reshaping Anfield's transfer operation.

"First and foremost Liverpool should devote a minimum 25% of their resources to exploiting their local area. There's nothing that excites a Liverpool fan more than when a local academy kid pulls on that red strip," Karlsen said.

"He should also keep a close eye on the German market. It's undervalued if you compare the quality to the going rates, even compared to France. Holland, Spain and Italy are also expensive markets with great domestic competition for the best talent."

There are just over 50 days to the opening of the January transfer window. No pressure then on Comolli.....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/9156815.stm

The club have made it clear that Comolli is Director of Football Strategy, and Dan Roan has said he's been hired to oversee the club's 'recruitment drive'. Basically it'll be his job to identify young players and bring them in, which fits in with what we've heard about NESV wanting to follow Arsenal's model of bringing in mostly young players. Comolli clearly did that at Spurs and Arsenal, and whilst he's signed some duff players that's no different to anyone working to sign players in football, everyone generally seems to have a 50/50 track record in terms of bringing in decent/poor players. To be honest if it means we don't give anymore long term contracts to older players like Cole, Konchesky, Poulsen and Carragher (how dodgy is that contract he got on the day Hicks & Gillett left looking now?) then great.

[ONO]

Heskey out for a month then. Can't wait to see Houllier go all defensive away to Fulham like last Sunday at home. Think I'll give that tripe a miss and do something more productive with my Saturday.

[ChrisSteeleAteMyHamster]

Blah. I knew we had a terrible record at Bolton but I didn't realise it was 14 years and a Chris Armstrong goal since we last won there.

But on a positive note it looks like Kranjcar is playing. Whoo.

Definitely a weaker line-up though. One up front, Palacios AND Sandro playing. Looking for a sneaky victory it seems. Without Van der Vaart, Crouch looks VERY alone up front on paper.

[9 to 5]

What a shame.

[Baddar]

Davies puts Bolton 1-0 up - some bookie acca's up in the air already.

[stokeriño]

Kevin Davies hasn't scored me any fantasy league points for a while now - so I'll happily take an offside goal, especially against Spurs.

According to BBC's live league table, Bolton go FIFTH if they win this?!?