nPower Football League Thread 2010/2011

[MBDTF]

What does the Premiership and a Cordless Drill have in common?

No Leeds.

[Jimmy]

That joke is so old.

And blah, let's not see Norwich get automatic promotion.

[Starvinho]

Come on Norwich, let's be havin' you!

[MJB]

And they've done it. Remarkable story.

[Jimmy]

Poop.

[IAceI]

Pitch invasion!

[Colly]

Could be back to back champions in a few weeks too. Pretty good going.

[Lineker]

Danny Graham plays for Watford, not Norwich! For now at least, anyway.

Well done Norwich. And to think that none of this would have been possible without Bryan Gunn's ineptness.

[IAceI]

Ah yeah, Watford. I knew there was 2 at one and one at the other, it's Grant and Aldred at Watford and Holt at Norwich isn't it. Ah well. All play in yellow.

[Marcos]

Could this look any more deliberate?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MypqRHva5TQ&feature=player_embedded

[Starvinho]

Could this look any more deliberate?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MypqRHva5TQ&feature=player_embedded

Fucking hell why did he do that for? He must be mates with Keys and Gray...

[Lineker]

Stupid cow, should be in the kitchen anyway, etc.

¬_¬

[IAceI]

Bloody hell, he turned about ninety degrees in 0.1 seconds to manage that.

[Colly]

And then a 180 in 0.2. I'm sure some will think 'ehhhh, equality, she should take falls like everyone else', but surely a quick apology isn't that hard? Fair play to her for laughing it off, but really?

[Lineker]

Former Football Association chief Mark Palios believes QPR will be deducted points following the hearing into their 2009 signing of Alejandro Faurlin.

The hearing, which started on Tuesday, centres around seven charges relating to the initial deal arising from the Argentine midfielder's ownership.

Palios told BBC Radio 4 that if the club are found guilty they would be docked points based on set precedents.

QPR, who won promotion to the Premier League on Saturday, deny the charges.

On Saturday, Rangers boss Neil Warnock reacted angrily to media claims that the club could be docked as many as 15 points, which would scupper their elevation to the top flight. The FA has since moved to deny that any decision had been made.

The charges facing QPR concern the alleged existence of an agreement between them and a third party in respect of Faurlin's economic rights, and the alleged failure by the club to notify the FA of that agreement before the player was registered to play for them in England.

The club has also been charged with allegedly using or seeking to pay an unauthorised agent as part of the Faurlin deal, while both the club and chairman Gianni Paladini have further been charged with allegedly submitting false information in documents provided to the FA relating to a contract extension signed by Faurlin in October.

"There is a lot of precedent around playing an ineligible player and that ranges from the clerical errors around the transfer window, when they get small points deductions, to more serious situations," said Palios.

"I think following the [Carlos] Tevez affair it is neccessary for a statement to be made. This is more serious than a clerical error, so deserves a points deduction almost certainly.

"The second charge with regard to illegal payment to agents, I think there is a precedent when Luton got 10 points deducted for doing that.

"Interestingly, the FA said they tried and didn't say they actually did make the payments to unregistered agents."

The FA has been investigating the case since September, when QPR first asked for permission to buy out the third party that owned Faurlin's economic rights.

The club was prompted to do this by the Football League's introduction of rules prohibiting the third-party ownership of players.

The League told QPR they would have to notify the FA of their plans and it then became apparent the club may have been in breach of FA regulations for more than a year.

Saturday's 2-0 win at Watford secured QPR's promotion to the Premier League as champions but any definite celebrations have had to be put on hold as the spectre of docked points hangs over the west London club.

If a points deduction is indeed deemed necessary, then Neil Warnock's side could drop into the play-off places. The club would be expected to appeal if the FA rules against them.

BBC Sport understands the Football League has held initial talks with clubs likely to be in the play-offs, regarding potentially switching the dates of the semi-finals if QPR are docked points.

When interviewed on Monday's Late Kick Off programme on BBC One, QPR midfielder Shaun Derry agreed with his manager's assessment that the atmosphere around the club was "like a morgue" following Friday's press reports.

"It was upsetting to read," said Derry. "Especially when it could mean taking away promotion and taking away the fact that winning that game meant we were champions.

"We were going into a derby against Watford and to read that on the Friday, it was hard for the boys."

Derry also underlined the impact a significant points deduction would have on the club.

"It would be disastrous," stated Derry. "We have been the best team this year and we are up there on merit. What a hammer blow it would be to everybody connected with QPR - the players, the staff, the fans especially.

"But you can't even think about it. What we have said all along is to take away what happens this week and celebrate it because if nothing does happen, you don't want to miss out on the celebration."

The reason the case has been brought against QPR is because of rules that were brought in following the Carlos Tevez saga. That case dragged on for two years after Tevez helped West Ham stave off relegation from the Premier League in 2007, despite being owned by a third party.

Sheffield United, ironically then managed by Warnock, went down instead and lodged a legal challenge that ended with the Hammers owing the Premier League £5.5m for breaking the rules and the Blades £20m in compensation.

West Ham, however, avoided any points deduction that would have taken them down in Sheffield United's place.

QPR have led the Championship table since early in the season and have only lost five times in the league.

The dates of the Football League play-off semi-finals could be changed if QPR are deducted points over the Alejandro Faurlin signing, BBC Sport understands.

QPR were promoted from the Championship after defeating Watford on Saturday but face a Football Association hearing this week.

It relates to seven charges centering on the third-party ownership of the Argentine, who joined the club in 2009.

The League has held initial talks with clubs likely to be in the play-offs.

These have focused on the possibility of dates being changed if the Hoops lodge an appeal in the event of a points deduction.

The Championship play-off semi-finals are scheduled to take place on 12, 13, 16 and 17 May, with the final at Wembley on Monday 30 May.

It is unclear whether moving the Championship dates could impact on the League One and League Two fixtures, with all the matches scheduled to take place on different days.

However, it is understood that the dates for the play-off finals cannot be moved.

That means the League Two and League One finals will take place at Old Trafford on 28 and 29 May, before the Championship final at Wembley brings down the curtain on the Football League season.

The FA hearing starts on Tuesday and a verdict is expected on Friday, the day before QPR play Leeds on the final day of the regular season.

QPR and their chairman Gianni Paladini have denied all the charges against them.

The FA has been investigating the case since September, when QPR asked for permission to buy out a third party that owned Faurlin's economic rights.

QPR were prompted to do this by the Football League's introduction of rules prohibiting the third-party ownership of players.

The League told QPR that they would have to notify the FA of their plans and it then became apparent the club may have been in breach of FA regulations for more than a year.

Oh dear. Apparently QPR will have the guy who defended Caster Semenya, the South African female "is she a dude" sprinter, defending them.

[Matt]

15 points isn't enough And also doesn't really make sense, it just seems a random number to pluck out Not that I expect much else from the FL.

[MBDTF]

If that's the case, then I hope they get docked points so we can see Swansea and Cardiff battle it out for automatic promotion come Saturday. Guaranteed riot regardless who wins it at the other's expense.

[Matt]

http://www.leedsunited.com/page/Ownership/0,,10273,00.html

Leeds United Football Club Limited ('LUFC') the company that holds the share in the Football League, is a member of the West Riding County Football Association and an Associate Member of the Football Association.

LUFC is a wholly owned subsidiary of Leeds City Holdings Limited ('LCH').

LCH has five unconnected shareholders, four of these hold 27.15% collectively with no one of these holding more than 10% of the issued shares.

FSF Limited (a company incorporated in Nevis) holds 102,000,000 or 72.85% of the issued shares.

On the 26th April 2011, FSF Limited was acquired by Outro Limited.

Outro Limited is wholly owned by Mr K W Bates and is registered in Nevis, West Indies.

On this basis, Mr K W Bates is deemed to be the controlling shareholder of LUFC.

May 3 2011

So it's definitely Bates that owns us now. Even though it probably was before, in some way.

[stokeriño]

My knowledge of Leeds' recent history is patchy but didn't it go something like:

1. Ken Bates buys club

2. Club goes into administration

3. Ken Bates buys club again

Repeat until the end of time, probably.

[Matt]

My knowledge of Leeds' recent history is patchy but didn't it go something like:

1. Ken Bates buys club

2. Club goes into administration

3. Ken Bates buys club again

Repeat until the end of time, probably.

1. Ken Bates buys club

2. Club goes into administration

3. Ken Bates buys club again

4. Ken Bates makes bullshit claim about not being the owner

5. Ken Bates "buys" club

Repeat until the end of time, probably.