Civilization Thread!

[thatshortguy]

Ruki, you exceptional bastard.

[Sousa]

So I just played this! For like four hours!

Overall? Fun. To be honest, it didn't make me miss Civ IV like I expected it would. I do miss being able to whip and whip and whip with a civic like Slavery, but rushing with gold isn't a terrible substitute. Stacks o' Doom can officially fuck right off.

A few things:

1. I don't get how borders work--like, at all. The straight swelling of the Big Fat Cross is sorely missed. I do like being able to buy new tiles (which makes getting a new city going that much easier). Sometimes I would expect a border to close out and it just never did. When I took over my nearest neighbor, I got his nicely expanded borders, though.

2. The way things like gold, hammers, happiness, and culture are streamlined is so much better than Civ IV's confusing series of sliders. "1 beaker per population for a Library" is so much easier to understand than "your research is determined by a variety of commerce tiles, the height of your slider, specialists, and additional modifiers from buildings."

3. I miss the more cartoony character models of Civ IV.

4. I can't figure out why I would want to befriend city-states instead of just wreck them.

I decided to start with Rome. I was on a continent with the Chinese and the Iroquois as well as a few city-states. Hiawatha is basically out of the game and I'm about to roll my Longswordman/Trebuchet army on China (who are way, way backward). I took the first two city-states I found--one because it had gold and the other one because it was LISBON. Now I'm buddying up to Genoa and America (I still can't figure out how he reached me). The game is loooooooooooooooong, though.

[thatshortguy]

I will say that no matter the path to victory I chose in my initial Civ5 games, it'd take at least three hours to pull off (regardless of difficulty). That said, I do enjoy it just as much as four, if not more.

[Hobo]

I've been playing on and off, caught on with Germany as always seems to be a thing I do in Civ.

Not really done much except go to a pointless war with Siam and beat up Barbarians because I'm stuck between Siam, Arabia and the Iroquois. I probably need to have a few more varied units though. Archers and Landersknecht because Landersknecht is a pretty damn awesome name for a thing. The thing is I don't have too many resources.

[Sousa]

I finished the Rome game! Chieftain is way too easy, but I was expecting the game to be more significantly different than it was. Strategically positioning siege and melee units for city warfare is sooooooooooo good.

I think I want to lean hard on religion next. Celts or Byzantines?

Also I really want BNW so I can play Venice. Venice sounds amazing.

[TKz]

I finished the Rome game! Chieftain is way too easy, but I was expecting the game to be more significantly different than it was. Strategically positioning siege and melee units for city warfare is sooooooooooo good.

I think I want to lean hard on religion next. Celts or Byzantines?

Also I really want BNW so I can play Venice. Venice sounds amazing.

Venice can be crazy hard. Your only choice for expansion is pretty much conquering or expansion of the actual city, because you can't settle new cities.

Man, I feel like such a chump in my game. Spent so long wiping out the Barbarians that everyone else was getting way more advanced. I feel like the kid at school who still plays with Lego when everyone else is playing on their Gameboys.

Obviously the only thing to do about that is world domination.

[Benji]

Taken from Reddit, made me laugh.

Just in case anyone misses the point, Hiroshima joined America just after America got Atomic Theory - IE: Nukes.

[Herr Matzat]

Thank you for pointing that out.

[Nick Adams]

I don't know why, but I actually like Marathon and Epic games. Sure, things take forever to happen, but on the other hand, warfare is a lot less balls-to-the wall. The odd part is that I haven't actually won a military victory, but have managed to succeed with every other endeavor. I really only bother with city-states if I'm going for a political victory.

Side note - the Huns conquered Japan? Fun times.

[SRN]

I bought the upgrade thing! Now I will perhaps play Civ again, although I am terribly shit at it and I really only just want to play as the Vikings. If someone wants to multiplay, and win, I am up for it at some point in time.

[stokeriño]

4. I can't figure out why I would want to befriend city-states instead of just wreck them.

Play as Austria. Then you be all friendly-friendly until one day...BOOM, diplo-annex the whole motherfucking lot of them.

[Sousa]

Venice can be crazy hard. Your only choice for expansion is pretty much conquering or expansion of the actual city, because you can't settle new cities.

As it happens, OCC (One City Challenge) is one of my favorite modes in Civ IV. It also makes the game go much faster, which is easier for me since I'm always having to take breaks and do chores and do stuff with the kids.

As I understand the mechanics, Venice's strategy wants gold in a big way. So you rush to the gold-related techs, build Markets and Banks, and spam Trading Posts. The limiting factor is production; it's slower in Civ V than I can ever recall it being, so having gold on hand to buy shit is preferable to waiting for your one city to churn everything out. Build Merchant wonders, run Merchant specialists, and use your puppet states to further your evil schemes. It's basically the Mafia. That sounds super-rad.

And yeah, stok, when I posted that I wasn't getting how happiness was the new primary means of maintenance. Once I figured that out, I just bought friendship for a song and spread my religion (Killingyouism) to them. It's a neat wrinkle.

[Lint]

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[TKz]

Mother Russia is slowly absorbing the rest of the world.

[Berober]

Yeahhh... But more importantly is TEOL being last in score!

[Sousa]

Russia is awful, why would you be Russia?

[TKz]

Russia is awful, why would you be Russia?

Because I know barely anything about the actual game outside of amass army, sack city state, build up more army, eventually find and destroy TEOL.

[Berober]

Russia is awful, why would you be Russia?

Because I know barely anything about the actual game outside of amass army, sack city state, build up more army, eventually find and destroy TEOL.

You know, this whole 'Eventually Kats, Berober and TKz will war' thing is silly, when we should just be attacking TEOL.

[Sousa]

I've played this game once and I am completely confident in my ability to utterly ruin TKz.

[TKz]

I've played this game once and I am completely confident in my ability to utterly ruin TKz.

Well, I've played it three times now and I've never played a Civ game before, so I'm fairly confident in your abilities too. >_>