ZJ Penn Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 I'm not saying he's going to seriously shake up the division, but he's a guy with slick jiu jitsu that will have wrestlers thinking and that pawing boxing style that keeps guys on the back foot. He's going to be a bigger challenger to those guys than most that the UFC have at 170lbs. Something much needed when you consider that Dan Hardy and Paul Daley are the only guys who've really broken through recently. Alves would kill him though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Koscheck just won't go on the back foot its not in his nature, I would imagine he would just continue to push and his stand up is so much better than it used to be and to be honest Koscheck's world class wrestling is able to ride out the majority of jiu jitsu practioners on the ground. To draw a recent analogy Diaz will provide as much as a challenge to Koscheck and Fitch at 170 as Guida did to Ken Flo and Sanchez at 155, it might make some exciting fights but in the end we wont be talking about Diaz, we will be talking about the guys who beat him. You talk about needing more guys to break through, but do you really think that guy is Nate Diaz, the guy is obviously talented and on his day is unbelievable on the ground, but when push comes to shove he's just another gatekeeper and not the guy who will be challenging a Penn or St. Pierre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZJ Penn Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 You talk about needing more guys to break through, but do you really think that guy is Nate Diaz, the guy is obviously talented and on his day is unbelievable on the ground, but when push comes to shove he's just another gatekeeper and not the guy who will be challenging a Penn or St. Pierre. This kind of highlights what I mean. The UFC welterweight division's top 3/4 is so suffocated right now, there's not just the unstoppable champion, but 2/3 fighters underneath him who can't be budged. No, Diaz very likely isn't going to be in title contention in the foreseeable future, but like you said; he has fantastic ground skills and boxing talent to boot. If he can take out a Fitch or Koscheck and that's all he contributes, he'll help the division massively by creating spots for fresh match-ups. And I believe that his style is one of the rare ones who can beat these guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Very true, at the end of the day I just want to see Alves face Daley, that should be a ground based clinic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayzon Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Tom Lawlor's Real American entrance: http://www.dailymoti...nnin-wild_sport Awesome. Awesome to the nth power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbahs Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 (edited) Diaz would be better off staying at 155. Some the guys at 170 will manhandle him... His reach is more of an impact in the smaller class too. Edited January 13, 2010 by Numbahs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest C-MPH Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Silva/Belfort is more or less official for Abu Dhabi (not that we didn't already know that), and Patrick Cote finally returns against Alan Belcher at 113. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzy Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Dos Santos vs. Gonzaga added to the Versus card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbahs Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Gonzaga should try to take him down...but he won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 God, that Versus card is looking like its going to be a killer. Really putting some effort into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayzon Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Dos Santos vs. Gonzaga added to the Versus card. Wow. That's a strong match for a TV show! Could be a co-main event on a PPV, if you ask me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 With a star-studded card that featured a title-unification bout between Benson Henderson and Jamie Varner, WEC 46 on Versus experienced a ratings increase of 94 percent and drew a total audience of 640,000 viewers, MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) today confirmed with TV executives. The organization's most recent show, WEC 45, drew just 330,000 viewers last month. WEC 46 took place Jan. 10 at ARCO Arena in Sacramento, Calif. The event, which also featured hometown star Urijah Faber in the co-headliner, drew an audience of 10,027 for an estimated $550,000 live gate. Notables Mike Brown, Raphael Assuncao and Kamal Shalorus were also featured on the Versus-televised main card. Henderson submitted Varner in the main event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbahs Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Good for WEC, they don't get hyped enough by their big brother... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzy Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Sherk is once again off a third show so his fight with Guida is off and is replaced by Shannon Gugerty. No reason given for him being off the card though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr. Mime Head Posted January 15, 2010 Report Share Posted January 15, 2010 Observer was reporting an injury yesterday, upon re-checking it was a neck injury suffered in training and the MRI must have come back badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbahs Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 Here's hoping there's not a human growth on that neck... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stan Kroenke Posted January 16, 2010 Report Share Posted January 16, 2010 UFC 113 on May 1 in Montreal continues to load up...Rampage/Evans, Machida/Rua, and now rumour has it Koscheck/Daley. That should be an awesome fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzy Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 Kimbo Slice's next fight looks to also be on the 113 Montreal card against Matt Mitrione. With Rampage/Evans and Machida/Rua, this is an easy 1 million buys for them. And definitely looking forward to Koscheck and Daley and I got Kos winning that. Also Fighters Only is reporting a fight between Forrest Griffin and Little Nog is in the works for 2010 but no date set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbahs Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 With Rampage/Evans and Machida/Rua, this is an easy 1 million buys for them. And definitely looking forward to Koscheck and Daley and I got Kos winning that. I don't know that it's an easy million. It would be better to do it after The A-Team, if you ask me... I think Kos will GnP Daley out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrilla Posted January 17, 2010 Report Share Posted January 17, 2010 If they're clever Kimbo will go up against Mitirone as he is the only one in the heavyweight division he has a chance of beating. Called it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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