Queen's Blood (Final Fantasy Thread)

[Pizza]

I had never heard of Toriyama before, now I want him to be in charge of all the Final Fantasies.

I had never heard of Toriyama before, now I want him to be in charge of all the Final Fantasies.

[Benji]

He was director for FFXIII, so I'd probably retract that statement

[Pizza]

I want 15 years younger Toriyama before he got boring and lame to be in charge of all the Final Fantasies.

[gunnar hendershow]

I have no idea why nobody likes XII, it's wonderful!

Well, I mean it's basically an MMO but single player. If you like MMO gameplay I'm sure it's fine, but for a lot of us it was pretty far removed from what we wanted. I think that continues to be the problem now, really. Square doesn't want to make the JRPG's they used to, but a lot of people still want that.

Japan doesn't really want JRPGs anymore, sales have dramatically dropped across the board in the last decade. Square has mixed up the gameplay style out of necessity, the classic turn-based style is no longer the top dog in Japanese gaming. Tales, the 2nd biggest JRPG series in Japan right now, sells a quarter as many units as Final Fantasy. Ni no Kuni, which was praised by a number of JRPG fans and had Studio fucking Ghibli attached to it, has sold a third of what Tales of Xillia has sold. Yes there's still Pokemon, but its appeal is about much more than simply being a JRPG.

I don't really know where the future is going, but I'm convinced FF will never return to the classic turn-based style with a major series release. As long as their newest release keeps printing money, which FFXIII has been doing (and FFXIV has been doing in NA and EU), then they'll remain convinced they should keep making games that separate themselves from tradition.

[MalaCloudy Black]

Get your shit together, Japan, I want more JRPGs! Come on! :@

[TKz]

More than anything. It hurts to be a fan of a dying genre.

This must be how the four guys that liked Flight Sims felt.

[Ruki]

Hey! Persona 4 Golden was a traditional JRPG! And Persona 5 will likely be the same too.

[gunnar hendershow]

They still make them guys! But the market is smaller and smaller.

Lightning Returns sold like a quarter million its first week out. Which is great for something that isn't 3DS or Vita.

[TKz]

Yeaaaaaaaah but they keep doing stuff with them that is only a minor feature but I don't really like.

For example, I'd much prefer Ni no Kuni (despite loving it to bits) if it was turn based. I don't really like that whole Brave system in Bravely Default. I dunno, I feel like it's been so long since we've had a JRPG that doesn't do something whacky and zany with the formula that something that didn't innovate would be more fresh. >_>

[gunnar hendershow]

Isn't that basically the audience of Tales and Atelier? I haven't played a title from either franchise in years mind you, but that's at least what I recall their appeal being back then.

[TKz]

I'm not a Tales player by any stretch, but after watching Mrs. TKz beat Tales of Graces F, that's pretty far removed from turn based JRPG. It's pretty much the same thing as Star Ocean. I hate all the YOU CAN CONTROL YOUR CHARACTER, HIT X FOR COMBO shit.

[gunnar hendershow]

Ohhh okay, yeah that's been Tales' thing for as long as I've played them. That style of JRPG has been around since SNES/Genesis era if I recall, which is why I consider it a nod back to "classic" games. But you want a pure throwback to Dragon Quest or Final Fantasy, then go with Atelier.

[TKz]

Ohhh okay, yeah that's been Tales' thing for as long as I've played them. That style of JRPG has been around since SNES/Genesis era if I recall, which is why I consider it a nod back to "classic" games. But you want a pure throwback to Dragon Quest or Final Fantasy, then go with Atelier.

Yeah I checked it out after you posted it, but it's a bit too anime with creepy children with little clothes for me. Ruki might like it, though.

I think the thing I also miss is the setting of the JRPG's that I first discovered, I really adore that early PSX "It's the future... but there's swords... and FUCKING GOLD BIRDS YOU CAN RIDE AND SPACESHIPS" that 7, 8 and 10 really featured. I kind of feel like it hasn't been done much in the last few years by anyone but Final Fantasy, because, well, it got done to fucking death in the 90's. It's why I like XIII-2 so much, it's the first real HD Final Fantasy that's not shitty, because it took all the things I liked from XIII and fixed that shitty bits.

Honestly, I think the type of JRPG I want is so fucking specific that I'm certain to be disappointed from now on. But I realize that, so I'd settle for a turn based combat system with an interesting story and setting. >_>

[Liam]

Outside of the FF games and Ni No Kuni, are there any other RPGs on the PS3 that I really should try out?

[gunnar hendershow]

PS3? Well Persona 5 is coming out in a little over a year for PS3. People like Dark Souls and Demon's Souls, but I haven't played them.

Most of the good RPGs come out on 3DS and Vita.

[Ruki]

Outside of the FF games and Ni No Kuni, are there any other RPGs on the PS3 that I really should try out?

I like the Disgaea series. SRPGs.

[Liam]

Yeah, have played Disgaea and Dark Souls/Demon's Souls.

Don't really have the money for a new handheld.

Are the Atelier games worth a look? The Tales games? Ermm....stuff like Hyperdimension Neptunia?

[gunnar hendershow]

Atelier is, as mentioned, very Japanese. Complete with cringeworthy English dubbing I'm told.

My top recommendation is my favorite game franchise, Shin Megami Tensei. Especially Personas 3 and 4, but you can't really go wrong with any MegaTen title.

[Liam]

I actually have Persona 3 from the PSN store. Need to go back to play it.

[gunnar hendershow]

I actually have Persona 3 from the PSN store. Need to go back to play it.

*rubs hands*

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