2012 NFL Season

[Cactus Drags]

Suh doesn't really cheat though, he's just not a very nice person. And to be honest, the stomping on that Packer aside, a lot of the criticisms for Suh are blown out of proportion.

I love that. Aside from the incredibly flagrant penalty that was a disgraceful display of poor sportsmanship, the guy's perfectly fine!

Maybe cheat was the wrong word, he's dirty though. Just off the top of my head there's the Dalton can-opener incident, the forearm shiver to Cutler and a couple whose names I can't remember.

First of all, yeah he is fine. I prefer not to judge a player based on a single action, even if it's a dumb one. Things happen, emotions get high and it's hard for some people to control their impulses sometimes. I'm not condoning what he did in any way but I'm not going to vilify him for making a boneheaded mistake, either.

And second, those examples are BS. The "forearm shiver" to Cutler was him just pushing Cutler in the back. Look at the replay, he doesn't even touch his head and he's definitely not hitting him with a forearm. And the Dalton thing was blown out of proportion because he barely tackles him. Granted, it was a penalty because it was late but I'm sure Dalton would like to get tackled like that all the time, as opposed to the other, "normal" shots he takes over the course of a game.

In general, I think fans are too quick to judge and place the "dirty" label on players because they see a late or a rough hit but the real dirty players do things that you don't see like eye gouging or groin shots, etc.

Ah, fair enough, I thought Haynesworth was A-OK after stamping on Gurode.

Cutler: it's a deliberate punching motion. Right hand, maybe not forearm, but it's deliberate and it's aimed high. He did it again in another game, going after the head, and he took his helmet off. I'm inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt on that one as I believe Cutler was going to ground and essentially made him miss.

Dalton: he's coming in head high, no intention at all of making a clean tackle despite having ample opportunity. You can make an argument for him wrenching his neck and/or driving his head into the ground, but it's not quite as clear.

Delhomme was actually what I was thinking of when I said can-opener incident. But I guess what actually happened was his glove got caught in his facemask and Delhomme made it worse by trying to run the other way, right?

It basically comes down to not only is he dirty, but he doesn't own up to it, the stuff about him pushing up off the guy's helmet in the stomp incident, it's just bullshit. If you're gonna play dirty, at least earn it and don't cry foul when you get called out.

[Plubby]

Look all this Suh stuff is just detracting from the discussion of the Lions' true stars like Moore and Megatron...

[Lint]

Suh doesn't really cheat though, he's just not a very nice person. And to be honest, the stomping on that Packer aside, a lot of the criticisms for Suh are blown out of proportion.

I love that. Aside from the incredibly flagrant penalty that was a disgraceful display of poor sportsmanship, the guy's perfectly fine!

Maybe cheat was the wrong word, he's dirty though. Just off the top of my head there's the Dalton can-opener incident, the forearm shiver to Cutler and a couple whose names I can't remember.

First of all, yeah he is fine. I prefer not to judge a player based on a single action, even if it's a dumb one. Things happen, emotions get high and it's hard for some people to control their impulses sometimes. I'm not condoning what he did in any way but I'm not going to vilify him for making a boneheaded mistake, either.

And second, those examples are BS. The "forearm shiver" to Cutler was him just pushing Cutler in the back. Look at the replay, he doesn't even touch his head and he's definitely not hitting him with a forearm. And the Dalton thing was blown out of proportion because he barely tackles him. Granted, it was a penalty because it was late but I'm sure Dalton would like to get tackled like that all the time, as opposed to the other, "normal" shots he takes over the course of a game.

In general, I think fans are too quick to judge and place the "dirty" label on players because they see a late or a rough hit but the real dirty players do things that you don't see like eye gouging or groin shots, etc.

Dalton: goes right for his head, drives him to the ground

Cutler: Debatable, but once again, arms around the head/neck. Noticing a trend here?

Delhomme: GRabbing the facemask, twisting. Suh seems to love going for the head, doesn't he? (had to use a gif, can't post another youtube video..)

[Chris the Human]

A friend of mine has told me I should support the Baltimore Ravens with her. I am inclined to do this solely because she lets me see her goodies. How are they looking as a team? The Ravens, not her breasts

[Plubby]

Hacks, the lot of them.

[Meacon Keaton]

The Ravens are always in the title hunt which is more than I can say about some of the other suggestions in this thread.

That said, why do so many people outside of America like the Ravens?

[Chris the Human]

I don't know anybody who does. She's from Annapolis.

[Meacon Keaton]

That explains her then.

[Plubby]

Slogger loves the Ravens.

[Meacon Keaton]

Be does too. I knew a couple guys from New Zealand that liked them too.

[Damian WayLNKe]

We're named after a work of literature. Our fans are very high brow.

[Plubby]

Like their players! Terrell Su-

Err Joe "Self-appointed Best QB in the League" Fla-

Oh.

[Maxx]

I'd say the Ravens are a fine team to support, especially if you get to see tits as part of the deal.

[Chris the Human]

I'd say the Ravens are a fine team to support, especially if you get to see tits as part of the deal.

That's pretty much the deal maker for me.

[Lineker]

Can you tell her that I've decided to become a Ravens fan too? I'll PM you my email address to pass on.

[gunnar hendershow]

I've been a Ravens fan since 1996 and I haven't seen any (good) tits out of the deal.

Though, yes, the team has made playoffs 5 of the last 6 years and generally comes one fuck up away from possibly winning the title.

[DYSI]

I want to buy this...

[Maxx]

Giants suck, but that is one of the better looking Super Bowl rings of all time, very classy.

[TCO]

Giants suck, but that is one of the better looking Super Bowl rings of all time, very classy.

Does the fact that it's a New York Giants Superbowl ring not prove that they don't suck?

Great ring though, up there with the Steelers one from a few years back as the best I've seen.

[Maxx]

No, it proves that they're successful. They'll always suck.