Fallout 4

[Chris the Human]

Go back and watch the Bethesda conference, lots of sexy neon to get you all colored up.

[SeanDMan]

To be honest I doubt you will ever see that. So much of the American propaganda, commercialism, and war obsessed feelings of the 50s are critical to the setting. Not to say that a post apocalyptic Asia wouldn't be amazing, it just wouldn't feel like it was a Fallout game without cheesy American optimism and advertising brightening up a disaster of a world.

[Chris the Human]

Sad, but true.

And I don't want to play Metro or STALKER. They're nowhere near as good

[SeanDMan]

I've never played either but I probably should.

[Plubby]

If we're going to make this the general Fallout thread, then I just finished New Vegas and quite enjoyed it  I've gotten Fallout 3 which I got 6-8 hours into and hated on my PS3 so i'm seeing if it goes better on PC (as the combat was something that I didn't really enjoy)

[SeanDMan]

[Plubby]

I've been Fallout 3'ing. I've just passed the event which invalidates the first half of the game. Welp.

 

New Vegas is so much better. (And it has nothing to do with Farms :shifty:)

 

It's kind of off-putting that you have the open expanses of the wasteland right next to the linear-yet-labyrinthine DC ruins. (that sounds the opposite of each other, but it's just a heap of dead-ends with only one actual path through :\ ) DC kind of just feels like it's built up to be a bunch of HEY I KNOW THIS PLACE moments.

Edited August 4, 2015 by Plubby

[JasonM]

The entire DC area is the most infuriating piece of land in the entire Fallout series, because you just want to go one block the other way, and the game forces you to take three subway tunnels, fight yourself through a raider camp, maybe meet a few super mutants for good measure, and then you get there, meet a guy who tells you you need to go the other way to another place you'v never been before, and of course it's even deeper into the DC ruins.

Fallout New Vegas had some invisible walls too, mainly the early game trying to force you via Primm to get to New Vegas, unless you want to run like a madman through deathclaw nation.

But in general I just want to be able to head a direction and find the place I am seeking for, if that means I take more time jumping over an unexplicable wall of cars that blocks off the street, then so be it, let me take that shortcut that isn't actually a shortcut, and fuck off with having to go through the most ridiculous path imagineable just to cross the street.

It's even worse when you're playing a game on the hardest difficulty, and you're trying to rush for that intelligence bobblehead that pushes it to 10 and gives you max XP. Being a level 2 scrublord and having to spoon the waterside whilst somehow dodging super mutants, raiders, mirelurks and everything else that's out to kill you gets really really frustrating. Because you're too weak to fight back, and fighting back means you're probably going to level up and cause you to lose a bunch of valuable XP.

[SeanDMan]

Well you should stop being a powergamer and play the game properly then.

Plubby: What part are you talking about? The first time you get to the purifier?

[Just Joe]

New Vegas was a broken piece of crap for me. was 20 odd hours into the game when a main quest mission could no longer be completed because the game would crash when I had to go into a specific building. Never played it again.

[apsham]

Fallout 3 benefits heavily from mods that add a lot more to the main DC area.

[Plubby]

Well you should stop being a powergamer and play the game properly then.

Plubby: What part are you talking about? The first time you get to the purifier?

I actually found the purifier on the way to Rivet City. But yes. The Event at the Purifier, and subsequent trip to get the maguffin. I've just gotten the maguffin, and met the important man at his lair.

 

I dunno why i'm avoiding spoilers, I think I was the last person on Earth to play Fallout 3 anyway

[SeanDMan]

http://www.gamespot.com/videos/fallout-4-bigger-battles-better-shooting-and-less-/2300-6426382/

This "if you put blank into strength, you can unlock perks" makes it sound like, right from the start, they're trying to encourage people to specialize their characters as opposed to being jerks of all trades.

[Plubby]

Turns out Fallout 3 finishes like fifteen minutes after the previously mentioned point.

[LUKIE]

I hope they have had better melee. I did a Fallout 3 run which was entirely Melee and whilst Melee in that game was average it was still amazing fun.

I am making Popeye who beats Raiders to death with a modified baseball bat covered in barbwire and nails and shit.

[Walker]

Most of these changes are hugely positive in my book. 

[SeanDMan]

Not so positive quote from Pete Hines:

"I like what we’ve done with the dialogue system… and having played Fallout 3 again recently I keep, in Fallout 4 when I’m playing, I keep hitting the button to leave dialogue. I keep forgetting, ‘Oh, I can just walk away’. I don’t have to wait for this guy to stop talking’. And now I’m playing other stuff, where there’s dialogue and I’m thinking, ‘Oh, I wish I could just walk away’. Because I don’t have the attention span for long dialogue!"

 

[Ruki]

 

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