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What are some awful films you can't help but enjoy? Can be any genre, any time period and in any language.

Lets not spoil stuff and just go with a brief synopsis instead. (I might aswell go first)

Vampires: Los Muertos - sequel to the slightly more awesome 'John Carpenters: Vampires' the film basically see's Jon Bon Jovi travel across mexico hunting vampires where he'll ultimately fall in love an almost vampire....but can he save her...and stop the menace!

The Blob (1988) - Cold war weapons grade goo returns to earth and consumes townsfolk in rural california (is that even a thing) on its apparent quest for food and vengeance (to of the best things to be on a quest for really). Features some pretty spectacular 80's horror effects. (including the most awesome movie death - man gets head sucked into kitchen sink....)

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What's this about a  "hate" thread?

Samurai Cop (1991) - A Lethal Weapon knock off where the Riggs proxy is apparently some sort of Samurai but also a COP. He fights a Japanese gang who are... doing something. Also there is a lot of very skimpy bathing suits for men and women. "Katana, it means Japanese sword." is an actual line of dialogue.

Fatal Deviation (1998) - A man is released from... prison? And goes home to re-start his life but then gets mixed up with gangsters and monks that hold a no hold's barred fighting tournament for some reason! Not only is it Ireland's first (only?) martial arts movie - it features Mikey Graham from Boyzone and was filmed in the same locations as part of Braveheart!

 

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1 hour ago, Hobo said:

What's this about a  "hate" thread?

Samurai Cop (1991) - A Lethal Weapon knock off where the Riggs proxy is apparently some sort of Samurai but also a COP. He fights a Japanese gang who are... doing something. Also there is a lot of very skimpy bathing suits for men and women. "Katana, it means Japanese sword." is an actual line of dialogue.

Fatal Deviation (1998) - A man is released from... prison? And goes home to re-start his life but then gets mixed up with gangsters and monks that hold a no hold's barred fighting tournament for some reason! Not only is it Ireland's first (only?) martial arts movie - it features Mikey Graham from Boyzone and was filmed in the same locations as part of Braveheart!

 

you saw nothing....

Samurai Cop is amazing because the dudes hair is so on point...those wonderful police offiver locks.

Fatal Deviation

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Image result for Nicola O'Sullivan fatal deviation

The Irish is strong in this'un

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Over the Top (1987) - Trucker and 'professional arm-wrestler' Stallone is reunited with his estranged son, and they bond together over Stallone competing in a arm-wrestling tournament in Las Vegas, complete with wrestler cameos, a weird mobster 'take the fall' storyline, and the culmination of the trucker hype that had died in the mid 70s

American Ninja (1985) - America's finest attempt to cash in on the kung-fu hype of the 80s. Charisma vacuum Michael Dudikoff is conscripted into the army to avoid prison, he is stationed on the Phillipines and proceeds to fight Black Star Ninjas who are being controlled by a colombian drug lord. Complete with multi-gender male bonding moments, a very attractive Asian damsel, and multi-coloured ninjas with lasers! And every other bad movie trope you can imagine, this is good shitty heaven!

Space Mutiny (1988) - Just watch the MST3K version of this for extra amusement. Reb Brown (The original Captain America actor) is a walking slab of meat on a space ship with the weirdest clothing design choices on any side of the galaxy. Definition of a z-movie with a lot of stolen property from Battlestar Galactica and other space series/films of that time, also has space santa and space Sting as the space police. Such a ridiculous nonsense film, and like I said, watch the MST3K version of this for extra laughs.

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2 hours ago, SquareRootOfSi said:

 

The Blob (1988) - Cold war weapons grade goo returns to earth and consumes townsfolk in rural california (is that even a thing) on its apparent quest for food and vengeance (to of the best things to be on a quest for really). Features some pretty spectacular 80's horror effects. (including the most awesome movie death - man gets head sucked into kitchen sink....)

 

This movie creeps me the fuck out, and I haven't even seen the whole thing! The deaths are pretty gruesome, nightmarish even. I guess if I were a more conservative person, I'd be calling for the movie to be banned, that's how creeped out I am by it :shifty: . 

 

Anyway...

 

Howard the Duck (1986)

Ok, Duck Boobs. There, happy? It also features three actors that either won or would be nominated for an Oscar (Tim Robbins, David Paymer and Jeffery Jones, though the less said about Jones the better :shifty: ), an absolutely amazing panty shot of Lea Thompson's ass, and was probably the best thing to happen to the city of Cleveland in the 80s before Major League. 

 

Twister (1996)

Great when it came out, pretty shit these days with a largely forgettable cast that had good talent but was vastly underused, and some characters didn't even need to be in the film, they were just...there. 

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54 minutes ago, Jasonmufc said:

Space Mutiny (1988) - Just watch the MST3K version of this for extra amusement. Reb Brown (The original Captain America actor) is a walking slab of meat on a space ship with the weirdest clothing design choices on any side of the galaxy. Definition of a z-movie with a lot of stolen property from Battlestar Galactica and other space series/films of that time, also has space santa and space Sting as the space police. Such a ridiculous nonsense film, and like I said, watch the MST3K version of this for extra laughs.

SPIKE CHUNSOFT

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Batman & Robin (1997) - Most of you will already know this one. It was director Joel Schumacher's second shot at Batman. And while with Batman Forever it feels like they at least tried to make a decent Batman movie, this is just terrible. I mean, where do you even begin with this one? The misguided casting of Clooney as Batman and Schwarzenegger as Mr. Freeze? The decision to turn the dark, gothic Gotham City Tim Burton had created into a neon colored nightmare? The terrible script? The bad jokes and Schwarzenegger's constant one-liners about Ice? Robin becoming precursor to Episode II's Anikin in terms of being a completely unlikable whiner who complains all the time? That they have basically turned this movie into a big-budget 90s version of the 60s TV Show? That Batman and Robin have batnipples on their suits and Batgirl doesn't? The infamous Bat-Credit Card? It's a train wreck! It is also hilarious to watch.

The Legend of the Titanic (1999) - You know about all the movie adaptations and documentaries made about the Titanic? Screw them all! This animated Italian cinematic masterpiece cuts through all the bullshit to tell you the true story about how the Titanic sunk: A gang of evil sharks fool an impressionable octopus into heaving an iceberg from the bottom of the ocean to the surface. Why do they do that? Because the evil stepmother of our protagonist is mad that her stepdaughter will not marry the evil whaler that she had picked out for her. Let me repeat: The evil stepmother of out protagonist is mad because her stepdaughter won't marry the guy she picked out for her. So the stepmother and the guy conspire with an evil gang of sharks to sink the ship. Of course nobody died on the Titanic as the octopus who really sank it saved everyone and they all lived happily ever after...This movie has to be seen to be believed.

Titanic: The Legend Goes On (2000) - What is it with Italian cinema and the Titanic? This is yet another animated movie for children that tells the story of the Titanic. And while this version is nowhere near as absurd as The Legend Of The Titanic, it is still a badly animated, badly written mess. It also has racially insensitive Mexican mice and a rapping dog. In 1912.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Mick said:

Twister (1996)

Great when it came out, pretty shit these days with a largely forgettable cast that had good talent but was vastly underused, and some characters didn't even need to be in the film, they were just...there. 

Don't forget the constant pissing on science for the sake of the storyline. Still love it though. :wub:

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1 minute ago, The Handsome Luchadore said:

Don't forget the constant pissing on science for the sake of the storyline. Still love it though. :wub:

He's in it for the moneynot the science!

 

Fuck you, Bill. You only wish that as a meteorologist, you could get your hands on fucking corporate sponsors

SERIOUSLY. 

 

 

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Shira: Vampire Samurai (2005)- As if the title alone didn't tell you this was movie sucks... actress who may or may not have been a softcore porn actress (going by her IMDB profile, anyway) is a half-vampire samurai warrior who is destined to be the daughter of a breed of daywalking vampires, and must kill the vampire who wants to fulfill that destiny (and also killed her family, of course)... Adrian Zmed. Goofy plot, random flashbacks, a guy whose only lines are repeatedly saying "BELIEVE DAT", a goth club that looks more like an Applebee's, and acting with almost robotic delivery. Absolute disasterpiece... and yet still better than Twilight.

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It occurs to me i have seen The Room and "Manos" The Hands of Fate so often I no longer consider them "bad".

They're good movies, Bront.

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3 minutes ago, Hobo said:

It occurs to me i have seen The Room and "Manos" The Hands of Fate so often I no longer consider them "bad".

They're good movies, Bront.

I still definitely consider them bad, but yeah, I've seen them an absurd amount of times, even though I swore on multiple occasions that I would never watch The Room again.

I probably invest more of my time in watching bad movies than good ones. I tend to find them more fun to watch, especially with company, and if I get distracted halfway through, or fall asleep, it doesn't really matter, because it was never particularly good in the first place. For me, I'd take an enjoyable bad film over a boring film any day, and the greatest sin of most recent Hollywood fare is that it's dull and formulaic.

What makes the likes of The Room, anything by Ed Wood, Samurai Cop, or Birdemic fun is that you can tell they were made with love and the best of intentions, but by people seemingly barely aware of how to actually construct a film. And that lends them an endearing charm. Whereas a paint-by-numbers blockbuster has no charm whatsoever.

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That's the key, bad films made with the right intentions actually do have some sort of heart to them that can shine through and despite the weak script, shoddy effects or whatever else may be wrong with them they aren't completely soulless and that gives them that thing you're looking for and can make them more watchable. The bigger budget films that fall flat don't necessarily have that and, as an example off the top of my head a half arsed Kevin Hart going through the motions in Central Intelligence and taking the pay check can make them more "meh" and remove that charm. It's why if having this conversation in say five or ten years time, I can see a lot of films that we're calling bad now barely being a footnote but a lovingly made bad film will keep some sort of cult following.

Obviously "bad" can be subjective and for every person who uses a hyperbolic "Suicide Squad is the worst film EVER" there will be "actually it wasn't that bad" and people who like it but ultimately it seems to fit the soulless throw it together and end up with something fairly "meh" in further analysis.

 

*films used in this example are off the top of my head which a quick check have low/middling scores on metacritic/rotten tomatoes, don't need to rush to their defence!

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Yeah. It's the fact that they have charm that makes me love them.

Plus, when you read The Disaster Artists or hear anything from the production of Manos or an Ed Wood or James Nyguen movie it's fascinating.

I love that the Room was shot on film and digital at the same time. Or that the camera used in Manos recorded no sound and only 30 secs at a time. Or how James Nyguen had actors film a sec scene in bathing suits because he was afraid they might actually have sex.. or something like that.

I haven't seen suicide squad but I've seen it held up as a case for terrible editing several times.

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1990: Bronx Warriors. I always say this one because its great. Its an obvious "hey lets throw Mad Max, The Warriors, and Escape From New York into a blender". Then the protagonist is the least convincing biker ever. It rules. 

Also...

Suburbia is fun, an early Penelope Spheeris flick about a group of punks that call themselves The Rejected. Acting is awful but sort of understandable because she casted actual kids and not actors. Flea is one of the Rejected. Live performances by D.I., TSOL, and the Vandals. "When my dad finds out he's going to shit twinkies".

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2 hours ago, MDK said:

Can we add Uwe Boll films to this list or are that just too bad?

Nah, Boll is just bad and a slap in the face of everything that is film making. He's also a massive twat who thinks he's gods gift to movie making, and not in the endearing 'he tries so hard' way.

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