Liam Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 As far as social stigmas go, marijuana smoking in Japan is a huge no-no. So yeah, that wouldn't necessarily be the best course of action either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrilla Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 (edited) Japan has much harsher laws regarding marijuana than the US does and its media and cultural perception is almost completely negative. He could fight in a non-tested environment over there but if he got caught with it he'd be finished before he even got started. Edited August 11, 2009 by NBT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 So its fine for fighters to takes steroids or other drugs that increase their potential for muscle gain, turn around time for training, et cetera as long as they cycle off at the right time and come through the test clean? The CSAC isn't trying to prevent fighters from living normal lives, it is trying to prevent people from shortening their lives by using drugs for short-term gains in the sport. If Diaz wants to fight in California he is going to have to be wary of the fact that the CSAC could realistically test him at any time. Given that his license has expired, Diaz will have to be tested before his next fight regardless of where it is. Aside from the fact that steroids and marijuana are both banned substances... I don't see how they're even remotely similar. Marijuana won't help build muscle mass. It won't make you faster, or stronger. Any effect it might have directly pertaining to MMA is the same as any extra strength painkiller on a store shelf. I just think the whole thing is ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanDMan Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 (edited) There's really nowhere else the guy can go. He isn't exactly in the peak of American MMA as it is, he's in Strikeforce. It's not like he can just transition that to a big money deal in comperable federation here. It's like washing out of the NFL and then saying "Well, fuck you guys! I'll go to the Arena Leagues!". Except Strikeforce kind of already is the Arena Leagues. So I guess it's kind of like washing out of the Arena Leagues and going to the CFL. Edit: And Gabe, it's not up to you to determine why they banned marijuana. They have their reasons. Simply put, it is a banned substance, and no matter whether it should or shouldn't be, it is. The only rediculous thing is that a guy has a contract where he gets paid primo money to punch people in the face and he can't even stop toking up long enough to go and do that. Edited August 11, 2009 by SeanDMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACCBiggz Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Simply put, it is a banned substance, and no matter whether it should or shouldn't be, it is. The only rediculous thing is that a guy has a contract where he gets paid primo money to punch people in the face and he can't even stop toking up long enough to go and do that. Bingo. My issue with this is the fact Diaz and Gracie play dumb and are like, "Well, we had an agreement with Armando Garcia. We didn't know." Which is completely laughable. Garcia was forced to resign, CSAC got a new director and instantly instituted new rules. As a fighter it is his job to comply to these rules and if he had any concerns he needed to contact Douglas ASAP and try to clear any situations up. It's his fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACCBiggz Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Dana White has stopped filming Vlogs. Also, he removed all previous Vlogs from YouTube. Supposedly they are working on a behind the scenes show with HBO and this could be the reason. PSAC will not release fighter pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 I haven't been saying that Diaz should be allowed to fight, Sean... I agree with the decision of the commission at this point in time. I'm just saying, I really don't understand how marijuana is an issue in relation to Mixed Martial Arts, except under the circumstance that a fighter is high at the time of his or her fight. It isn't like steroids, which have a direct effect on all aspects, from training, to health and ability to heal from injuries as well as susceptability to injuries. Also, about the minor league idea here... Nick Diaz made what $40,000 to embarrass Frank Shamrock? He might not be able to make THAT much, but there are a few Canadian promotions, most notably, Maximum Fighting Championships... DREAM and Sengoku in Japan... and all the rinky-dink places that pay ridiculous amounts for their main event fighters, and then just use locals and unknowns to fill out the card. It's not like he's commanding a Shamrock-esque payday of hundreds of thousands of dollars. He's an extremely affordable asset for any promotion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzy Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 With the news of Anderson Silva saying he'd make a permanent move to 205, I wonder if Rich Franklin will move back to 185 and go for the belt again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr. Potato Head Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Actually, Sean, I'd say Strikeforce *is* the CFL...Arena Football folded, which means Affliction or EliteXC is a better comparison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxx Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 (edited) With the news of Anderson Silva saying he'd make a permanent move to 205, I wonder if Rich Franklin will move back to 185 and go for the belt again. It'd be the best move for him, he's just going to kind of float near the upper tier of the light heavyweight division otherwise. Certainly won't be going anywhere near the belt with Silva in the division now. Edited August 12, 2009 by Maxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzy Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 He wouldn't be going anywhere near the belt with Lyoto in the division either. Also, Chris Lytle is injured and off the Fight Night 19 card. I was really looking forward to him vs. Carlos Condit, so this sucks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzy Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 (edited) Edited August 12, 2009 by Fitzy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzy Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 For those of you who haven't seen UFC 100 you can watch it on Spike this Saturday at 10pm, going up against Strikeforce: Carano vs. Cyborg. Lesnar/Mir, Henderson/Bisping, Belcher/Akiyama from the main card will air, leaving out the GSP/Alves due to the fact it went the full five rounds I am sure. Plus Bonnar/Coleman, Gugerty/Grice, and Jones/O'Brien from the prelims will make it on instead. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSticks Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 Did anyone else notice KenFlo pissing himself at 101. Look at his left knee lmao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzy Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 I doubt that is piss... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enter Blue Guy Posted August 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Even if Kenny did piss himself, he's got a cup and likely shorts underneath to absorb it. It's not like his ding dong is just hanging out there in a position to projectile piss. Hey, the Janitor is back in the UFC! Great addition of depth at 205. Also, I haven't watched any replays of 101 but I've heard the crowd was kind of indifferent through out the show. I was watching at the bar, the place was packed, loud, and everybody was really enjoying themselves so the whole card was very entertaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Even if Kenny did piss himself, he's got a cup and likely shorts underneath to absorb it. It's not like his ding dong is just hanging out there in a position to projectile piss. Hey, the Janitor is back in the UFC! Great addition of depth at 205. Also, I haven't watched any replays of 101 but I've heard the crowd was kind of indifferent through out the show. I was watching at the bar, the place was packed, loud, and everybody was really enjoying themselves so the whole card was very entertaining. I found the Philly crowd to be a very weak crowd for UFC. Of course, Sherdog said that it was hot from the beginning, but that a couple of decisions quieted them down. Figures though... the loudest they would get on PPV is during a brawl in the audience. I wouldn't go back any time soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indie913 Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 (edited) I'm not excited about Matyushenko back in the UFC. And what's with all the returns at 103? Trigg, Belfort, Cro Cop, Matyushenko... There's a good chance three of the four lose too. I know little to nothing about Matyushenko's opponent other than that he trains with Cro Cop, so i'll give the Janitor the nod there. I think Koscheck beats Trigg, Franklin beats Belfort, and Dos Santos vs. Cro Cop is hard for me to call because i'm being sentimental. I'd love to see a Cro Cop win and a return to form, but my brain tells me to take Dos Santos. Nick Diaz is going to try his hand at professional boxing again? Maybe we'll get that rematch with KJ Noons. Thales Leites being cut surprises me. A loss to Alessio Sakara is a black mark on anyone's record and he of course had the terrible fight against Anderson Silva, but that's as much Joe Silva's fault for throwing him in way too early. Nobody was touting Leites as a top contender when that fight was made. Also, why does everyone think Anderson is moving to 205 permanently? I have yet to find a source. I've only heard him say that he would like to fight in both divisions. Edited August 13, 2009 by Indie913 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrilla Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Maybe Matyushenko and Ortiz can have a rematch of the most boring fight in UFC history(!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 At the UFC 101 Post-Fight Press Conference, Dana made it out that Anderson Silva was willing to relinquish the 185 lb title and move up to 205 permanently, and he also said that he would get Silva/Machida made. Silva, however, said that he would never fight Lyoto... and later on Ed Soares said that he has no intention of a permanent move to 205, and never even spoke about it. The intent from Silva and his team is to keep alternating between divisions. Defend the belt at 185, and then have a 205 superfight, and then back to 185 to defend. I don't mind this so much, because it gives Dana and Joe Silva more time to determine who's ready for Anderson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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