LOST Discussion ***SPOILERS***

[Chris the Human]

I marked out like you wouldn't believe when the smoke monster rushed out of the house and went after the mercenaries. I find myself liking Benjamin more and more each week in spite of all of the horrible things he does.

[PkmnTrainerJ]

Massive destructive Smokey was awesome, but his appearance raised more questions. Damn Lost.

[Dingle]

I didn't expect them to be together, but I liked it. Same for the whole Sawyer/Kate thing, but what a bitch. She still can't choose.

[PkmnTrainerJ]

Sneak Peek #1 - http://www.fanpop.com/spots/lost/videos/1219780

Sneak Peek #2 - http://www.fanpop.com/spots/lost/videos/1219824

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Locke flashback episode. Ethan & Alpert are meant to appear in it.

[TGC]

Found this interesting, and as I await the Season Finale tonight I thought other might too.

TEN 'LOST' QUESTIONS WE WANT ANSWERED IN THE 4TH SEASON FINALE

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by William Clark

Tonight (Thursday, 5/29) the ongoing TV phenomenon known as Lost completes its fourth season with a special two-hour finale. During its four year run, Lost has intrigued viewers with its various ongoing mysteries and complexities. While the show's creators have made it known that they'll produce two more seasons to [hopefully] answer all those unanswered questions, no doubt many fans will be tuning in tonight hoping some mysterious are solved.

So here's at look at Newsarama's wish list of the Top 10 Lost Questions We Would Like to See Answered in Tonight's Season Finale…

1.) What is the meaning of the Four-Toed Statue?

Ever since it made its ominous appearance, we have wondered, who built it? Why is it there? What is its meaning. Lindelof and Cuse have promised we would find out, but when?

2.) What do the numbers (4, 8, 15,16, 23, 42) mean?

Meanwhile, both Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse have stated we might never find out a basic meaning of the numbers, but they have caused plenty of havoc in Hurley's life, haven't they? The numbers have shown up on one of the hatches, as Hurley’s winning lottery numbers that led to his boarding Oceanic Flight 815, and usually signify danger. While the creators might never give us a definitive answer, we want to know more about their significance.

3.) What exactly is "The Monster" aka The Black Smoke?

One of our most burning questions, what exactly is The Monster aka The Black Smoke? Is it The Island's security? How does it do what it does? Is it Judgment for those "not worthy" or something far more sinister? How did Ben summon it? There are many questions when it comes to the agenda of The Monster.

4.) How does Charles Widmore know about the Island?

Not only does he know about the Island, he believes it belongs to him. How does he even know about it? Was Charles part of the DHARMA Initiative or did he fund it? And if it is his, why can't he access it? And what does Ben have to do with all of that? What does Desmond have to do with any of it or is it the Island protecting itself from Widmore?

5.) Who is in the coffin?

In one of the flash-forwards, Jack shows up to a wake or funeral for someone. All we see is a coffin. No other people are there. Obviously this death is of some importance to Jack. Is it one of the Oceanic Six? Could it be Ben? Someone else from the Island? We want to know!

6.) What is the connection between the passengers and the Island?

What is the connection of the passengers of Oceanic Flight 815 and The Island? It is obvious by now that these people were gathered together for a reason. And the Island's healing powers have seemingly cured Rose and Locke and even helped Jack heal faster than he normally would when recently injured while it either made Ben sick or saved him by delivering Jack.

Plus there's the mystery of Aaron. Walt's powers, Vincent's tracking ability, all of it. Why did the Island need these specific people and how did either the Island or Oceanic Airlines know they would be so interconnected?

7.) Who is Richard Alpert?

Does this guy even age? How is it possible that he can meet Locke when he was a child and be around the same age when Locke is now an adult? Richard recruited Juliet for Mittelos Bioscience Project. He helped Ben with the takeover from the Dharma Initiative. And he hadn't aged a day in any of these encounters. What is this guy's deal?

8.) Who is Jacob?

There is much speculation as to the identity of the ever-elusive Jacob. A part of Ben and Locke's psychosis or is Jacob truly this "higher power" that Ben subscribes to? Maybe Jacob is truly real. Whoever or whatever Jacob is, the answer is probably coming for season five. And we are taking bets; it will be one of the surprises of the year....

9.) What exactly is the mission of The DHARMA Initiative?

Going back to the beginning, the DHARMA Initiative has been looming over the legend of the island. Ben claimed he drove the Dharma people off (killed them, actually), but we must remember this is Ben talking. It's all in the exact phrasing. The DHARMA Initiative has spread its influence over "Lost" since episode one and we suspect it isn't over yet (btw, we think Charles Widmore has something to do with it).

10.) How does time travel play a crucial role in the whole Lost universe?

This is the new question for us. Ever since Desmond time traveled, we've wondered about the flash forwards, flashbacks, and everything in between. The time difference that Daniel has found between the ship and the Island, who is whose "constant", and can anyone time travel? That would explain what year it is when the Oceanic Six come back "home", wouldn't it? All in all, the time travel aspects of Lost have opened up a whole new dynamic that we are very intrigued by and have opened up a whole new ton of questions.

That covers the questions Newsarama most wants answered. How about your "Losties" … ot is that "Lostites?" Feel free to add your own here and discuss among your fellow fans…

Courtesy, obviously, of Newsarama

My only other question is who are the Adam and Eve skeletons, because dammit I still think they are someone we know.

[GhostMachine]

My theory about #5 is that its Sawyer in the coffin.

[Dingle]

Why would Kate not care?

[TGC]

Yeah I think Sawyer stayed on the island willingly, but I don't know why. My theory for number 5 is either Locke or Ben. Of course I also don't know how he came to get off the island since he wasn't one of The Oceanic 6.

[Dingle]

I'm really not sure on who it could be. Don't think it'll be Michael, Sawyer, Sayid or Locke.

But I could see it being Ben (Although I dunno, that'd still be weird because of the whole story between him and Widmore).

My only issue with it being any of the others is how they'd get off the island and why they wouldn't have a funeral for them like Cole got. Maybe it is Ben? The funeral IS in 2007 and we are in 2005, a lot could change between now and then. Desmond may be likely due to his connections with Penny. But... has Ben ever met Desmond? Does he even know who he is?

[new_era]

In a previous episode (in the last 2 or 3 I believe) didn't Kate say she was doing something for Sawyer, causing Jack to get upset? So I'm guessing he made it off the island. The coffin, I'm gonna go with Locke or Michael, there was a 'J' visible on the piece off paper but with that theory it brings Juliet off the top of my head in to the equation, the only thing that makes me doubt that theory is 'artley' visible. It could be Michael as the funeral home was in an African-American part of town.

I've said from the beginning that Jacob is one of two people, Ben or Jack. We haven't heard Jack's full name, could be Jacob? Son of Christ? (Dad is called Christian) A possible hint that Jack is either messianic or the messiah. Jack's mother is called Margo, meaning pearl, Pearl Station, I think we'll head back there sooner rather then later.

I found this an interesting read;

4

Part of the "numbers"

Number of quadrants on a backgammon board (1x1)

Number of years ago Sawyer made wish (of Kate tackling him?) (1x5)

Number of refills Shannon had for her inhaler (1x8)

Number of months Claire spent convincing herself that she had to raise the baby by herself after talking to Malkin (1x10)

How many days Shannon says Boone and Locke have been hunting and coming back empty-handed (1x12)

Number of guns in the Marshal's case (1x12)

The number of month's Michelangelo had been staring at the Marble block before carving David, according to Locke (1x13)

Miles from the hatch to the beach camp (1x13)

Number of children the nurse who told the penguin joke to Michael had (1x14)

Number of trip wire alarms Locke sets up around camp (1x15)

Number of times Hurley tells Sayid that Charlie shot Ethan in the chest (1x15)

Hurley says his grandpa Tito had a heart attack 4 years ago (1x18)

Lenny Simms is playing Connect "Four" (1x18)

Martha Toomey says her husband has been dead for this many years (1x18)

Number of years Locke has been in wheelchair (1x19)

Jack asks Charlie if he only asked 4 people for their blood type (1x20)

Explosives stolen by terrorist is C-4 (1x21)

Number of spots available on Michael 's first raft (1x22)

Number of oceanic planes in mobile above crib in Claire 's dream (2x15)

Sawyer reads to the baby about a car with 4.4 liter engine and 6-speed transmission (1x21)

Arzt says the next raft launch window is 3 or 4 months away (1x22)

KMph shown on Hurley's rental car (1x23)

Number of scratches on Danielle's arm (1x23)

Jack says they still have 4 guns to protect themselves against the Others (1x23)

The Apollo candy bar expires ?-23-04 (2x2)

Locke tells Desmond 4 survivors set out on a raft (2x2)

From the moment the alarm sounds, there are 4 minutes to enter the numbers into the computer (2x3)

Days after the raft left that Sun lost her wedding ring (2x5)

Michael tells Bernard that he needs 4 sticks, 5 feet long each, to make a stretcher for Sawyer (2x6)

Libby says Donald will be the 4th to go (2x7)

Goodwin tells Ana he is worried because she has had Nathan in the pit for 4 days (2x7)

Ana has been meeting with a police counselor for 4 months before being given back her badge (2x8)

Ana had been on leave for 4 months after officer involved shooting (2x8)

Ana had been shot with 4 hollow point bullets when Jason tried to kill her (2x8)

Locke asks Eko if there were 5 survivors from the tail section, but Eko says there are 4 (2x8)

Kate has photos of Sgt Austen in Korea up until 4 months of her birth, so he can't be her father (2x9)

Sayid relays to Inman that after torturing him, Tariq told him he buried the pilot 4 kilometers from their location (2x14)

The Prisoner tells Sayid he crashed on the island in a hot air balloon 4 months ago (2x14)

Hurley bets 4 papayas in a poker game (2x17)

The Prisoner changes his story and tells Ana that he was part of a search party 4 months ago (2x18)

Sawyer's estimate of how many mussels Kate was able to pry off in the past hour (2x19)

In the morning, Bernard had about 15 people working on his S.O.S. sign, but now he has only 4 (2x19)

Locke tells Rose Jack estimated it would take about 4 weeks to get the splint off his leg (2x19)

Number of days Ana-Lucia estimates Christian Shephard has been drinking in Australia before he decides to do something in the middle of the night (2x20)

Miss Klugh writes down the names of the 4 people Michael is to bring back: Jack, Kate, Sawyer & Hurley (2x22)

The letter to Penny Widmore has the address "23 D(unclear), Knightsbridge, SW4 8PS." The return address is "42 B(unclear) Road, Halstead, Essex, CO8." (2x23)

Libby gives Desmond $4 for his coffee (2x23)

The statue leg Sayid, Jin and Sun see from the boat has 4 toes (2x23)

8

Part of the "numbers"

Months that Claire is pregnant on day of crash (1x1)

Months between Ray Mullen's wife dying, and Kate showing up on his farm (1x3)

Number of months Locke has been talking to Helen (1x4)

Number of years Michael worked in construction (1x7)

Number of weeks Charlie has booked for DriveShaft's comeback tour opening for MeatCoat (opening in LA) (1x7)

Kate's estimate of how old Sawyer was when he wrote the letter (1x8)

Number of hours Kate spent with her dad one day tracking in the woods (1x11)

Kilometers from secretary of environment's house to riverbank where Jin is to dump car (1x17)

Station that interviews Hurley is KSVU-8 (channel Cool (1x18)

Number of people that died in Hurley's shoe factory fire in Canada (1x18)

Number of days Claire was missing when Ethan took her (1x15)

Aisle number Locke gives for footballs in toy store (1x19)

Marc Silverman says he'll be fine after about 8 beers (1x20)

Shannon was 8 years old when her dad remarried (1x20)

Sawyer reads to the baby about a 32 valve V8 with 400 horses 350 lb ft of rear torque (1x21)

Kate and Tom buried their time capsule 8-15-89 (1x22)

Kph shown on Hurley's rental car (1x23)

Sawyer's age when his father kills himself (and mother) (1x23)

Man with scoots is wearing a "Crazy 8's Casino" hat (1x23)

At the time of Sarah's accident, it was 8 months until her wedding (2x1)

Appears in Sarah's hospital room on what looks like a crash cart (2x1)

Randy tells Hurley he owes the company for an 8 piece combo (2x4)

Sayid tells Jack the concrete wall is 8 to 10 feet thick (2x4)

Hurley and Johnny pull by pumps 6 and 8 at the gas station (2x4)

Claire tells Aaron that she feels like she's stayed up for 8 hours straight with his crying (2x8)

Ana's car # is 8-ADAM-16 (2x8)

The director tells Driveshaft to rotate on the 8 count (2x12)

Sawyer bets Jack 8 papayas in a poker game (2x17)

On the blast door map, it says that P.R.D. is every 6-8 months (2x17)

Hurley's doctors says the deck that collapsed was built to hold 8, but 23 were on it (2x18)

Dates on Eko's passport (2x21)

The Pearl Station people work 8 hr shifts (2x21)

The letter to Penny Widmore has the address "23 D(unclear), Knightsbridge, SW4 8PS." The return address is "42 B(unclear) Road, Halstead, Essex, CO8." (2x23)

Printed on the back fur of the rabbit Ben told Sawyer he killed when he shook it (3x4)

15

Part of the "numbers"

Kilometers from nearest town to Ray Mullen's farm (where Kate was sleeping with the sheep) (1x3)

Time at which Sun was to disappear at airport (11:15) (1x6)

Hours Boone 's flight took to get to Australia (1x13)

Minutes passed from Locke and Boone losing Claire's trail and finding hatch (1x13)

Number of checkers each person starts with in backgammon

Aisle number Locke gives for footballs in toy store (1x19)

Locke 's mother was born 10-15-1940 (1x19)

Kate and Tom buried their time capsule 8-15-89 (1x22)

Shannon tells Boone, "Excuse me for not wanting to sit next to a crying baby for 15 minutes" (1x23)

Miles from island the raft makes it before "the Others" come (1x23)

15kph on Hurley's rental SUV (1x23)

On computer screen, departure time for flight 815 is 14:15 (2:15PM) (1x23)

Desmond's speed indicator on his stationary bike hovers between 15, 16 and 17 (2x1)

16

Part of the "numbers"

(plus 5 months) Number of years the distress call has been playing (1x1)

Age of girl upon which Jack did his first solo procedure as a resident (1x1)

Hours passed from the time of the crash until Jack discovers the pilot (1x1)

The number of hours the flight was supposed to take (Jake says he needs to be in LAX in 16 hours to meet a hearse) (1x1)

One of the dates on a poster in the back of a pool table Sawyer walks up on (1x8)

Number of weeks the lottery had gone without a winner before Hurley wins (1x18)

Number of circles in Oceanic logo

16kph on Hurley's rental SUV (1x23)

Sayid says Danielle's child was taken 16 years ago (1x23)

Desmond's speed indicator on his stationary bike hovers between 15, 16 and 17 (2x1)

Shannon tells Sabrina that if she gets her internship, she'll be working like 16 hours a day, but Sabrina thinks the only thing she's ever seen her do 16 hours a day straight is sleep (2x6)

Ana's car # is 8-ADAM-16 (2x8)

Anthony Cooper sends Locke to safe deposit box 1516 to get his cash after faking his own death. (2x17)

23

Part of the "numbers"

Row number that Jack and Rose (and Harold Wollstein) were seated in on the plane (1x1)

One of the dates on a poster in the back of a pool table Sawyer walks up on (1x8)

Flight 815 at gate 23 (1x23)

23 degrees C on dash in Hurley's rental SUV (1x23)

5:23AM Time on clock when Walt and Michael have their spat (1x23)

Hurley's hotel room 2342 (1x23)

Part of Desmond's combination to gun vault (2x1)

The Apollo candy bar expires ?-23-04 (2x2)

According to Libby, number of people who survived the crash from the tail section (2x4)

Eko recites the 23rd psalm when he burns the Beechcraft (2x10)

Sayid tells The Prisoner that he was 23 years old and a good soldier when the Americans first came to his country (2x14)

Hurley's doctors says the deck that collapsed was built to hold 8, but 23 were on it (2x18)

The letter to Penny Widmore has the address "23 D(unclear), Knightsbridge, SW4 8PS." The return address is "42 B(unclear) Road, Halstead, Essex, CO8." (2x23)

Sawyer tells Agent Freedman that Munson's stolen money is in a "red Bronco parked off 441 in Sawgrass, in front of Unit 23C" (3x4)

Karl is forced to watch the brainwashing video in Room 23. (3x7)

42

Part of the "numbers"

The numbers on the pool balls add up to 42 on the table when Sawyer walks up.(1x8)

The special "mega number" in the jackpot lotto (1x18)

Number of slots on a connect four game (Lenny is playing connect four when Hurley talks to him) (1x18)

Rousseau had written the numbers 7 times, creating a matrix of 6 numbers across, 7 rows deep, which is a matrix of 42 numbers (1x18)

42F - Ana Lucia's seat # (1x23)

Hurley's hotel room 2342 (1x23)

KM shown on Hurley's rental car (1x23)

On computer screen, arrival time for flight 815 is 10:42 (1x23)

Part of Desmond's combination to gun vault (2x1)

The number 42 appears in the graffiti mural in the hatch. (2x1)

Locke is looking at a crossword puzzle where 42 down is "Enkindu's friend" (Locke fills in "Gilgamesh") (2x8)

The letter to Penny Widmore has the address "23 D(unclear), Knightsbridge, SW4 8PS." The return address is "42 B(unclear) Road, Halstead, Essex, CO8." (2x23)

In the morning, Bernard had about 15 people working on his S.O.S. sign, but now he has only 4 (2x19)

Anybody notice any links?

The numbers and the monster are the two major things that bug me, for the simple fact they cannot be solved yet. I'm aware the ten things in the list TGC posted are all unanswerable but damn those numbers and monster.

Edited May 29, 2008 by new_era

[Dingle]

The piece of paper isn't canon. It was just a prop. Nothing more.

[TGC]

Apparently last summer's online game gave an answer to the numbers ccording to the posters on newsarama. I don't know if that is considered canon or not either.

And wow and damn at the numbers.

[St. Dubb]

As far as I've seen, the game is most certainly NOT canon.

[TGC]

Okay I never followed it so I didn't know.

[Clawson]

Holy shit...

[Thatz]

Some fucker spoiled the season finale for me online about a week ago. I didn't think that it was true, but shit...it was.

Oh well, season five will be interesting.

[TGC]

I'll have more to say soon, but for now I think Clawson summed up my initial thoughts well.

Oh and that was a fucking awesome finale. Man does Lost know how to wrap up a season or what. Fuck.

[wCwCreator]

Whoa. I thought it was going to be ______ in the coffin before the season began but I didn't think

I was actually right?

Great finale.

"You can leave now."

Edited May 30, 2008 by wCwCreator

[TGC]

I admit it was exactly who my initial thought was when I saw last season's finale, but I was back and forth on it all season.

[Benji]

That was the best hour and a half of television ever. Ironically, one day after Locke is revealed as dead, it's his birthday today