***spoilers*** UFC News and Discussion Thread

[Enter Blue Guy]

I don't think this needs to be in spoilers. I don't know how anybody can argue that Mark Coleman vs. Brock Lesnar shouldn't co-main event a PPV. It's going to be another huge draw for sure and that's already underneath LHW title fight between Page and Forrest. A lot of fans don't understand how business works.

Jackson vs. Griffin will take place in July.

[Gene Kiniski]

I don't think this needs to be in spoilers. I don't know how anybody can argue that Mark Coleman vs. Brock Lesnar shouldn't co-main event a PPV. It's going to be another huge draw for sure and that's already underneath LHW title fight between Page and Forrest. A lot of fans don't understand how business works.

Jackson vs. Griffin will take place in July.

[Enter Blue Guy]

I don't think this needs to be in spoilers. I don't know how anybody can argue that Mark Coleman vs. Brock Lesnar shouldn't co-main event a PPV. It's going to be another huge draw for sure and that's already underneath LHW title fight between Page and Forrest. A lot of fans don't understand how business works.

Jackson vs. Griffin will take place in July.

That's a brainfart on my behalf, I thought the TUF Finale was July 21st.

Edited March 4, 2008 by Enter Blue Guy

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I think he was responding to Carparama who said that Lesnar wouldn't want to be fed anyone.

[Krone]

UFC Fight Night 13 is an upcoming mixed martial arts (MMA) event to be held by the Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) that is due to take place on April 2, 2008 at the Broomfield Event Center in Broomfield, Colorado. The event will lead-in to the premiere of The Ultimate Fighter 7 on Spike. Fight Night 13 will be the first UFC event to be held in Colorado since The Ultimate Ultimate was held in Denver on December 16, 1995. Unlike other UFC Fight Night cards, Fight Night 13 will be a three-hour event instead of two, due to a letter writing campaign by MMA fans to Spike.

Stephan Bonnar was originaly slated to take on Matt Hamill, but was forced to withdraw due to an injury. He will be replaced by Tim Boetsch.

MAIN CARD BOUTS

Main Event: Lightweight Bout

Kenny "Ken Flo" Florian (9-3-0) vs. Joe "J-Lau" Lauzon (15-3-0)

Welterweight Bout

Thiago "Pit bull" Alves (18-4-0) vs. Karo "The Heat" Parisyan (25-4-0)

Light Heavyweight Bout

Matt "The Hammer" Hamill (5-1-0) vs. Tim "The Barbarian" Boetsch (7-1-0)

Lightweight Bout

Kurt "Batman" Pellegrino (17-3-0) vs. Nate Diaz (8-2-0)

Lightweight Bout**

Gray "The Bully" Maynard (5-0-1) vs. Frank "The Answer" Edgar (7-0-0)

Light Heavyweight Bout

James "The Sandman" Irvin (13-4-1) vs. Houston "The Assassin" Alexander (8-1-0)

PRELIMINARY CARD

Lightweight Bout

Marcus "Maximus" Aurelio (14-5-0) vs. Jim Miller (7-1-0)

Welterweight Bout

Josh "The Dentist" Neer (17-5-1) vs. Din Thomas (23-7-0)

Lightweight Bout

Jeff "The Grinder" Cox (13-3-0) vs. Manny "The Pitbull" Gamburyan (6-3-0)

Lightweight Bout

Samy Schiavo (N/A) vs. Clay "The Carpenter" Guida (22-6-0)

Welterweight Bout

Roman "The Emperor" Mitichyan (9-1-0) vs. George Sotiropoulos (8-2-0)

Welterweight Bout

Anthony "Rumble" Johnson (4-1-0) vs. Tommy "The Farmboy" Speer (9-2-0)

** swing bout

Edited March 23, 2008 by Mr. K. Kennedy

[Enter Blue Guy]

This is a stacked card, I can't wait for it, but isn't a little bit early for a pimp thread for it?

Anyways, props to MMA fans for letting Spike know this card should not go to waste with just two hours, because the prelims could be a separate UFN on it's own.

Hopefully the three hours will be packed with fights like fans are hoping for, instead of using the extra time as a shillfest. Got to please the sponsors, I guess. I'll be disappointed none the less, because I want to see everything on the card.

Edited March 5, 2008 by Enter Blue Guy

[Blehschmidt]

I'm glad to hear they got the third hour, as there were some fine fights being relegated to Undercard status.

I am still holding on too hope that the Spencer Fisher makes TV.

[Typical Phenom]

I'm glad they got the third hour, since I might end up having to watch from home. I haven't heard back on credentials yet. Either way though, glad they're back in Denver and, if nothing else, I'll at least check the afterparties.

[The Red Reuben]

This is SUCH a good card. I also hope The King makes TV.

I also want to see how Speer/Sotiropolous(sp?) do.

[Krone]

Spencer Fisher has been forced to withdraw from his April 2 UFC Fight Night bout against Marcus Aurelio due to an undisclosed injury and he will be replaced by Ultimate Fighting Championship newcomer Jim Miller, as confirmed to MMAWeekly.com by sources close to the fight.

Aurelio will be stepping into his third fight in the Octagon. After a rough debut against Clay Guida, the former Pride star came back at UFC 78 finishing Luke Caudillo to even his record at 1-1 and will be looking to add another victory to start a win streak.

Aurelio’s new opponent, Jim Miller, is coming off of a victory at Ring of Combat over Chris Liguori on March 7 and will step in on short notice for the April 2 bout.

Miller trains at the AMA Fight Club, a Team Renzo Gracie affiliate school, in New Jersey along with his brother Dan Miller, who has competed for the International Fight League.

The bout between Aurelio and Miller is set to be part of the untelevised portion of the UFC Fight Night card leading into the start of the seventh season of the “Ultimate Fighter” reality show.

[Fitzy]

Houston Alexander vs. James Irvin just went down. If people plan to watch the replay or somethign and don't want to be spoiled I will put it in the spoiler tag...

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Wow, Irvin just knocked Houston Alexander out with a superman punch and one more punch on the ground to cause him to go limp and it was called in 8 seconds. Poor Alexander, that's what, two in a row now? UFC probably will start to sour on him now since he started off strong with two impressive knockouts and now two loses in a row, never mind being knocked out this quickly.

[Krone]

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Huge fucking win for my #1 fighter Matt Hamill. His lip looked wicked bad, but it just shows the heart he has. Great night so far and go Hamill!

[LL!]

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JESUS CHRIST! Anthony Johnson just dominated in seconds. That guy is nuts.

[Enter Blue Guy]

I've been going through an MMA burn out the last few weeks, but UFN 13 was good enough to end that. Very exciting, competitive fights, super enjoyable.

[Sabu Rules]

I missed up. Hope to see it on a torrent site soon to dl it.

[reyrey619]

Good fights, especially the Lauzon/KenFlo fight. Kind of disappointing though because everyone I wanted to win lost

[Enter Blue Guy]

UFC 85 is going on in London right now, the prelims are underway.

The rankings are from MMA Weekly.

Main Card Bouts:

-Matt Hughes (#3 Welterweight in the World)* vs. Thiago Alves (#9 Welterweight in the World)*

-Nate Marquardt (#5 Middleweight in the World)* vs. Thales Leites

-Fabricio Werdum (#7 Heavyweight in the World)* vs. Brandon Vera

-Michael Bisping vs. Jason Day

-Marcus Davis vs. Mike Swick

Preliminary Bouts:

-Martin Kampmann vs. Jorge Rivera

-Kevin Burns vs. Roan Carneiro

-Thiago Tavares vs. Matt Wiman

-Jess Liaudin vs. Paul Taylor

-Eddie Sanchez vs. Antoni Hardonk

-Jason Lambert vs. Luiz Arthur Cane

PBP stolen from Sherdog.

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Antoni Hardonk (Pictures) vs. Eddie Sanchez

Round 1

Sanchez comes out aggressive and scores an early knockdown. Following a referee standup, Hardonk gets busy with knees from the clinch, which forces Sanchez to look for a takedown. He succeeds, but does little with the position. The round ends with another Sanchez takedown on the heels of another referee standup. 10-9 Sanchez.

Round 2

Hardonk picks up the pace in the second, landing a hard knee to the chin and a stiff series of blows to the body. Sanchez answers and knocks Hardonk to the canvas with a powerful right hand. With the fighters back on their feet, a wild exchange of punches plays out with both landing. Hardonk starts to get the better of the exchange as he pieces together a strong combination. Hardonk seals the deal with a left hook at the 4:15 mark of round two with a left hook that forces referee intervention.

Paul Taylor (Pictures) vs. Jess (Pictures)

Round 1

The fighters trade blows in the center of the Octagon with neither gaining the upper hand early. Liaudin drops levels for a takedown and succeeds directly into side-control. Taylor escapes and gets to his feet, but the referee stands them up quickly after action slows. Liaudin lands a flying knee and Taylor answers with a punch that stuns the Frenchman and sends him to the canvas. Close round that goes 10-9 to Taylor on the Sherdog.com scorecard.

Round 2

The action slows a bit in the second as Liaudin scores an early takedown. Taylor separates and gets to his feet, where he is taken back down. He controls and strikes from the top for the duration of the round. 10-9 Liaudin.

Round 3

The fighters come out trading low kicks to kickoff the final frame. Taylor defends a takedown and is hit with a knee for his trouble. Liaudin scores a takedown but he can't hold Taylor down. Liaudin gets another takedown, but the referee stands them up shortly after. Laiudin pulls guard and gets the round on the Sherdog.com scorecard.

The official judges' scorecards are in and Taylor takes a split-decision with scores of 29-28 (twice) and 28-29 for Liaudin.

Luis Arthur Cane (Pictures) vs. Jason Lambert (Pictures)

Round 1

Lambert comes out clinching and Cane has none of it. Lambert does not want to trade but he chases Cane around the cage looking for a tieup. Cane unloads with a right hand and sends Lambert to the canvas. Lambert stands and is knocked down two more times before the referee steps in to save him at 2:07 of the first. Impressive win for Luis Arthur Cane.

Roan Carneiro (Pictures) vs. Kevin Burns

Round 1

The first round is all Roan as the Brazilian scores a quick takedown and doesn't look back. The entire round sees Carneiro in the top position on the ground, throwing punches. With 90 seconds remaining in the round, Carneiro advances to the mount but he loses the position after landing some punches. 10-9 for Carneiro.

Round 2

Burns stuffs a takedown attempt from Carneiro but he can't stop a second shot from the Brazilian. Carneiro punches from the top for several minutes and is caught in a triangle choke. Burns holds the head down and forces the BJJ black belt to tapout at 2:53 of the second frame. Very impressive submission for Burns.

Matt Wiman (Pictures) vs. Thiago Tavares (Pictures)

Round 1

The fights starts with wild scrambles for position and both fighters going for submissions. Tavares takes the top position, where he stays and lands punches for the duration of the five-minute opening period. 10-9 Tavares.

Round 2

The second round starts much different from the first, with both fighters landing hard punches. The fight goes briefly to the floor courtesy of the Brazilian, but Wiman stands back up. Wiman then lands a stiff right hand that stuns Tavares. Another right hand puts Tavares out cold at 1:57 of the second round.

Jorge Rivera (Pictures) vs. Martin Kampmann (Pictures)

Round 1

Kampmann scores a quick takedown and lands some punches before taking Rivera's back. Jorge Turns and is caught in an arm-triangle choke, but he escapes. Kampmann takes the mount and finishes with a guillotine choke at 2:44 of the opening period.

PPV starts at 3pm EST.

Edited June 7, 2008 by Enter Blue Guy

[Enter Blue Guy]

Two fights into the PPV.

Spoiler: Click here to view

Werdum stopped Vera with like 12-15 seconds left in the first round, punches from full mount. However, Vera was covering up, not much damage, wild, spotty, and it was coming up to the last 10 seconds. The ref? Dan Miragliotta. The ref for Kimbo/Thompson. He lets one fight go on while a fighter is against the fence, immobile, eating elbows for 40 seconds at least, but then stops some wild Gn'P, closing in on the end of the round, Vera moving around and blocking, and it gets stopped. One extreme to the other. Sorry, Dan, you suck dude.

EDIT: Watching it a few more times, forgetting the time and how close the round was to being done, it was a a valid stoppage. He should have let it go, but besides letting it go for the good of the fight, it was a by the book stoppage.

Nate/Thales was an awesome fight, Thales came out big, Nate responded, and he had the control for the majority of the fight after. Point deductions in rounds 2 and 3, one an illegal knee to the head of Thales and the next a bullshit call on a clear strike to the side of the head being ruled a shot to the back of the head. Thales ends up taking the split decision. More proof MMA needs to get rid of the 10 point must system. The knee was bad and Nate paid for it, but still deserved to win that fight. Nice desperation piledriver by Nate at the end of the third. Didn't work, but awesome to look at.

Davis/Swick next, should be good

Edited June 7, 2008 by Enter Blue Guy

[IAceI]

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Oh... fuck

[Enter Blue Guy]

Full results here.

http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfi...mp;EventID=6778

Gifs from the event last night, credit to MMA-Core.

Spoiler: Click here to view

Alves takes out Hughes, Matt's knee gets fucked up

Nate's piledriver

Vera/Werdum stoppage

Wiman KO's Tavares

Edited June 8, 2008 by Enter Blue Guy