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Judging by the precautions other sports leagues that have returned have taken I think there's a high level of safety regarding testing/contact tracing. I'm personally a lot more bothered at the number of resources required to make that possible then anything else. These tests could be used for much more social good than a sports league operating. But I'm also not the type of person who is going to not watch it when it does come back...

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Well according to Alexa Bliss, the WWE's testing is to take their temperature and ask if they've been behaving badly. I wouldn't be surprised if the NFL testing is the same but the doctor puts his fingers in his ears while they discuss their past fourteen days. NHL doesn't seem that reckless but Radko Gudas has a point about COVID against the Olympics.

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NHL IS FUCKING BACK BABY.

Maybe.

In July.

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So they've agreed to agree and now have to hammer out the details?

Quite smooth of the NHL to find a way to have a playoffs with Montreal and Chicago in it. I hope one of them makes a hilarious deep run. Well I hope the Habs do it, but they've been mediocre this season and frankly don't deserve the reward of a hot run in the playoffs.

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There's a guy on Reddit doing recolors. Some of them are as good as they are WTFy.

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It is sad that sexual abuse in hockey is nothing new, hopefully though this is the end of it.

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It's easy and smart to say we need accountability orgs in place that players can feel comfortable going to when an incident like this happens, but so much starts at the top I don't know how effective it would actually be. Gotta take out a lot of trash in the coaching ranks who at the most generous interpretation turn a blind eye to everything going on.

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There's a rumor going around right now that an NHL team has had multiple players and personnel test positive for COVID-19.

I miss hockey for sure, but if they can't even make it through the beginning stages of re-launching without having issues like this, they should probably just wait it out until there's a vaccine and all players and personnel can be vaccinated.

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It's the Lightning.

And this comes on the heels of the Phillies having to close theiir facility due to eight positive cases.....I'm just waiting for the NBA/MLS to come down with positive cases once they get to Orlando.  And with 90-man preseason rosters plus coaching staff there's just no way the NFL will get through unscathed either.

Team sports are probably toast in this country until sometime in 2021 depending on vaccine finalization and distribution.

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  Season Team GP G A Pts   Season Team GP G A Pts  
  1990-91 Quebec Nordiques 80 23 36 59   2001-02 Detroit Red Wings 70 11 24 35  
  1991-92 Quebec Nordiques 80 33 43 76   2002-03 Detroit Red Wings 64 12 39 51  
  1992-93 Quebec Nordiques 80 47 67 114   2003-04 Detroit Red Wings 75 30 38 68  
  1993-94 Quebec Nordiques 84 32 53 85   2005-06 Detroit Red Wings 75 28 59 87  
  1994-95 Toronto Maple Leafs 47 23 24 47   2006-07 Detroit Red Wings 79 27 60 87  
  1995-96 Toronto Maple Leafs 76 33 50 83   2007-08 Detroit Red Wings 82 31 66 97  
  1996-97 Toronto Maple Leafs 82 41 53 94   2008-09 Detroit Red Wings 81 32 65 97  
  1997-98 Toronto Maple Leafs 82 33 41 74   2009-10 Detroit Red Wings 80 27 43 70  
  1998-99 Toronto Maple Leafs 82 31 52 83   2010-11 Detroit Red Wings 56 23 36 59  
  1999-00 Toronto Maple Leafs 73 32 41 73   2011-12 Detroit Red Wings 70 19 48 67  
  2000-01 Toronto Maple Leafs 82 28 46 74   2012-13 Detroit Red Wings 47 15 34 49  
  2001-02 Toronto Maple Leafs 82 41 39 80   2013-14 Detroit Red Wings 45 17 20 37  
  2002-03 Toronto Maple Leafs 75 37 35 72   2014-15 Detroit Red Wings 63 26 39 65  
  2003-04 Toronto Maple Leafs 81 31 44 75   2015-16 Detroit Red Wings 66 16 33 49  
  2005-06 Toronto Maple Leafs 70 31 47 78     NHL Totals 953 314 604 918  
  2006-07 Toronto Maple Leafs 75 27 49 76                
  2007-08 Toronto Maple Leafs 74 32 46 78   PPG: 0.963273872          
  2008-09 Vancouver Canucks 41 9 19 28                
    NHL Totals 1346 564 785 1349  
4x Lady Beng Trophy. 3x Selke Trophy
           
               
2x Stanley Cup Champion
           
  PPG: 1.002228826                        
                             
 
1x Mark Messier Leadership Award
                         
                             

 

So, Twitter is up in arms about this. TSN has been ranking the best player ever to wear each jersey number. So far most of them have been not controversial but this one ignited a bit of a debate. So from looking at these charts, which of the two players do you think is the better of the two?

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41 minutes ago, SeanDMan said:

                             
  Season Team GP G A Pts   Season Team GP G A Pts  
  1990-91 Quebec Nordiques 80 23 36 59   2001-02 Detroit Red Wings 70 11 24 35  
  1991-92 Quebec Nordiques 80 33 43 76   2002-03 Detroit Red Wings 64 12 39 51  
  1992-93 Quebec Nordiques 80 47 67 114   2003-04 Detroit Red Wings 75 30 38 68  
  1993-94 Quebec Nordiques 84 32 53 85   2005-06 Detroit Red Wings 75 28 59 87  
  1994-95 Toronto Maple Leafs 47 23 24 47   2006-07 Detroit Red Wings 79 27 60 87  
  1995-96 Toronto Maple Leafs 76 33 50 83   2007-08 Detroit Red Wings 82 31 66 97  
  1996-97 Toronto Maple Leafs 82 41 53 94   2008-09 Detroit Red Wings 81 32 65 97  
  1997-98 Toronto Maple Leafs 82 33 41 74   2009-10 Detroit Red Wings 80 27 43 70  
  1998-99 Toronto Maple Leafs 82 31 52 83   2010-11 Detroit Red Wings 56 23 36 59  
  1999-00 Toronto Maple Leafs 73 32 41 73   2011-12 Detroit Red Wings 70 19 48 67  
  2000-01 Toronto Maple Leafs 82 28 46 74   2012-13 Detroit Red Wings 47 15 34 49  
  2001-02 Toronto Maple Leafs 82 41 39 80   2013-14 Detroit Red Wings 45 17 20 37  
  2002-03 Toronto Maple Leafs 75 37 35 72   2014-15 Detroit Red Wings 63 26 39 65  
  2003-04 Toronto Maple Leafs 81 31 44 75   2015-16 Detroit Red Wings 66 16 33 49  
  2005-06 Toronto Maple Leafs 70 31 47 78     NHL Totals 953 314 604 918  
  2006-07 Toronto Maple Leafs 75 27 49 76                
  2007-08 Toronto Maple Leafs 74 32 46 78   PPG: 0.963273872          
  2008-09 Vancouver Canucks 41 9 19 28                
    NHL Totals 1346 564 785 1349  
4x Lady Beng Trophy. 3x Selke Trophy
           
               
2x Stanley Cup Champion
           
  PPG: 1.002228826                        
                             
 
1x Mark Messier Leadership Award
                         
                             

 

So, Twitter is up in arms about this. TSN has been ranking the best player ever to wear each jersey number. So far most of them have been not controversial but this one ignited a bit of a debate. So from looking at these charts, which of the two players do you think is the better of the two?

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I haven't been following this and knew nothing about the controversy. I'm going to guess they voted Datsyuk and people are complaining because they wanted Sundin to win? I haven't been in hockey forums in ages but I used to and Leafs fans were always vocal about everything and anything.

I don't think it's fair to compare them on points scored (and if you check their averages, it's not even a big difference, not to mention Sundin still played the last few years of a very high scoring era) because Datsyuk's defensive play was amazing and he was ridiculously good with the puck. He didn't play for stats nearly as much as others. He played to win and he did well in my opinion. I don't even think Sundin was bad, but if they went with Datsyuk, as I'm assuming they did, I have to say I agree.

If they picked Sundin and people wanted Datsyuk - doubt it - then I disagree with the choice but I'm still ok with it. Sundin was pretty good.

 

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Pretty much everything you said, yes.

My initial reaction when I saw the controversy was to immediately lol, Toronto but Datty had a much shorter career than I remember. But in terms of what he did IMO that means more, not less. Sure, give Sunny points for longevity but the only solo award he won was the joe jackoff leadership award?

IMO as complete players they aren't even close to comparable, and even  on pure scoring, when you look at when they played, I still give the edge to Datsyuk. He had amazing skills and hands. Sundin had his skills too but IMO he benefited a lot from when he played. Datsyuk played in an era where actual athletes played in net.

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Datsuyk was really great, perhaps the best defensive forward of his time which to me tips him over Sundin. Sundin did play through basically the entire dead puck era so that's his big advantage. That if he had played a decade earlier or a decade later his offensive numbers would be greater. But we definitely slept on Datsuyk during his career and he's a fair choice over Sundin.

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