The 2007 Major League Baseball Thread

[Thatz]

Why do Cubs fans allow themselves to get their hopes up? I mean, honestly, it's not like the team has ever really given you a reason to. You should be used to it by now. It's worse for someone like me, who grew up with teams that won ALL the time (Lakers, Dodgers), and now can't seem to do shit. You've never known success, so not being successful should be easy.

Also, fuck the Yankees. And the Angels. And the Red Sox. I guess that means go Indians. And Rockies, but only because I have no reason to dislike them beyond them being in the NL West, while I actively dislike Arizona for... well... no real reason, really. It's not like their San Francisco or San Diego.

[The Sultan of Swank]

I believe there is a medical term for this condition of expecting the world from a losing team and always being disappointed. I don't know what it's called in Baseball, but in hockey it's called the Toronto Syndrome.

[naiwf]

Being loyal means you won't stray. Hoping for the best when you know your team sucks more often than not just means you're a blind fanatic. I'm a loyal Knicks fan for example, but I'm also a realist. We didn't win a title with the best teams we've ever had post the '73 championship team, and there's no reason to think we will anytime in the next 10 years either. At least no one here is a Devil Rays fan and there's some hope that your team can win 70 games more than once every 10 years.

Edited October 7, 2007 by naiwf

[Your Mom]

So are you saying we should just go "We made the playoffs but we wont win. Oh well". Isn't a fan supposed to hope for the best?

[naiwf]

No, I'm saying that fans who get heartbroken when they know their team is mediocre confuse me. I posted in this thread that the Mets wouldn't make the playoffs on August 11th. By the time the season was over, I wasn't "crushed" that I was right because I saw it coming. Even if they had snuck in, the Rockies would have swept them anyway. There's no reason to be devastated every year.

[Your Mom]

I get what you're saying now I guess, but to me it's different. If you aren't going to invest yourself fully then why bother? Maybe I grew up a little too close to the Cubbies to see this logically but I can't imagine ever thinking the way you do. It's a sad cycle because right now I'm miserable, but come Spring Training I will be just as optimistic as I was a week ago when the Playoffs were about to start.

[DMN in the House]

I'm basically saying what naiwf is. Its like how I am with the Raiders. I support them, and want them to do well, but I, realistically, know that 6-8 wins is the absolute BEST we could do this year.

I guess being a UCLA fan has also affected that. Get my hopes up in football every year, and always break my heart.

[Thatz]

Alright, I understand you better now...but I still disagree with what you said about Cubs fans. I mean, you were talking like it was pointless for anyone to think that they had a chance, when that clearly wasn't the case. They made the playoffs one year after having the worst record in their division, and they had a much better team that they have in the past couple of years. Why wouldn't Cubs fans hope for the best?

[Guest wwebone]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2007...tory?id=3052904

Personally, I believe Mr. Steinbrenner is just trying to light a fire under the team's ass.

In any event, GO TRIBE!

[naiwf]

Fuck Roger Clemens and the horse he rode in on in midseason. But thanks for hooking the Indians up in you final start

[Lowerdeck]

Torre = fired

[sahyder1]

Honestly.....did anyone not see this coming with Clemens?

[Mofoticon]

Eric Wedge got what he deserved for playing Nixon/Bringing in Fultz in a close game...We will see you in Cleveland on Wednesday for game 5, because the Yankees will make facing paul byrd look like batting practice tommorow.

[OGpistolpete]

Why would you bring in Fultz over Perez?

[VinnyT]

Because MLB is fixed and they want a Red Sox/ Yankees ALCS, no matter who they screw over.

I mean, Westbrook throws two STRIKES to Damon, which are called balls, so Westbrook has to pitch up and let Damon give the Yankees the lead.

Still though, I have faith in Byrd, but keep that bullpen going Wedge, you novice!

[VinnyT]

Ok, I know there's an edit button, but that bullshit "It's Not Over!" montage with Yankee highlights proves that TBS secretly wants the Yankees to win the next 3 games. What the hell?

[sahyder1]

Ok, I know there's an edit button, but that bullshit "It's Not Over!" montage with Yankee highlights proves that TBS secretly wants the Yankees to win the next 3 games. What the hell?

[MalaCloudy Black]

Tribe better fucking take it tomorrow. I don't want to see NY/Boston.

[Lowerdeck]

Tribe better fucking take it tomorrow. I don't want to see NY/Boston.

Neither do I.

[thatshortguy]

Should the rumblings of a Bobby Cox retirement be true, I'd like it if Joe Torre was available to call. I'd reeeeeally like it.