The England thread

[Lineker]

He's not the greatest of managers by any stretch of the imagination, but England would be shit under any manager tbf.

[Berober]

Clearly England should follow the Dortmund model

[Hobo]

Okay hobo, you don't think very highly of Roy Hodgson. We got that the first 700 times. >_>

[METALMAN]

He looks friendly!

[Gazz]

He's not the greatest of managers by any stretch of the imagination, but England would be shit under any manager tbf.

I'd win the World Cup.

[brenchill]

He's not the greatest of managers by any stretch of the imagination, but England would be shit under any manager tbf.

We have actually been shit under every manager since Bobby Robson. We didn't look too bad at Euro '96 and WC '02 but aside from that, dog shit.

[Gazz]

If Gazza's legs were 3 inches longer, we could have won Euro 96.

[METALMAN]

Oh Svennigans wasn't so bad, you know. Fucking boring team to watch, but you got to quarter finals at least.

[Lineker]

No surprises from Woy, really:

England squad:

Goalkeepers: Fraser Forster, Joe Hart, John Ruddy

Defenders: Leighton Baines, Gary Cahill, Ashley Cole, Phil Jagielka, Phil Jones, Chris Smalling, Kyle Walker

Midfielders: Ross Barkley, Michael Carrick, Tom Cleverley, Steven Gerrard, Frank Lampard, James Milner, Andros Townsend, Jack Wilshere

Forwards: Jermain Defoe, Rickie Lambert, Wayne Rooney, Daniel Sturridge, Daniel Welbeck

U21's:

England Under-21 squad: Bond (Watford), Butland (Barnsley, on loan from Stoke City), Long (Sheffield United); Dier (Sporting Lisbon), Jenkinson (Arsenal), Keane (Manchester United), Robinson (Blackpool, on loan from Liverpool), Shaw (Southampton), Stones (Everton); Carroll (QPR, on loan from Tottenham Hotspur), Chalobah (Nottingham Forest, on loan from Chelsea), Hughes (Derby County), Morrison (West Ham United), Ward-Prowse (Southampton); Ameobi (Newcastle United), Ince (Blackpool), Lingard (Birmingham City, on loan from Manchester United), Redmond (Norwich City), Sterling (Liverpool), Zaha (Manchester United); Berahino (West Bromwich Albion), Kane (Tottenham Hotspur), Ings (Burnley), Powell (Wigan Athletic, on loan from Manchester United).

Burnley striker Danny Ings wins his first international call-up. West Ham's Ravel Morrison is also in the U21s squad for the first time.

[Jimmy]

Cleverly? Really?

[Matt]

Only two wingers. ... seems odd.

[Nerf]

Only two wingers. ... seems odd.

You don't need wingers when you have the VERSATILITY~! of James Milner.

[MDK]

We all know Welbeck will be playing out on the left

[stokeriño]

He could go all out STRIKER FRENZY with a front four (in a 4-2-3-1) of Welbeck, Rooney and Sturridge working behind Lambert.

I mean...he won't...but...

[MDK]

Why not just go classic 2-3-5?

[Jimmy]

Would love to see us give Townsend a call up and put him on the right, with Welbeck on the left. That'd show quite a bit of attacking intent and be a nice change from James Milner. He's raw, but he's direct, something that England haven't exactly had much of recently. But we won't because that'd just be too much of a risk!!!

[Nerf]

Also because Townsend is shit

[Colly]

Only two wingers. ... seems odd.

You don't need wingers when you have the VERSATILITY~! of James Milner.

He's one of the two! It'll be Welbeck out wide which really isn't great given the way to play on form would be Rooney off Sturridge. Do we really not have a good fit winger?

[stokeriño]

Don't you remember? United bought all the wingers and made them shit.

[Colly]

Twats. Though in fairness its City who ruined Johnson and Sinclair, although the fact I'm even mentioning Sinclair shows how dire the situation is. Anyone promising in the Championship or is Sammy Ameobi really our next big thing?

And yep, I'm aware we've got Walcott and Chamberlain around.