Numbahs Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 (edited) I don't know how Hardy gets a shot at GSP after his stint in the UFC so far. I guess this division is really in the shitter right now. Edited November 14, 2009 by Numbahs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr. Potato Head Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 It's not that the division's in the shitter...like I said, Alves and Fitch are probably #2 and #3 in the world. It's just that GSP's so once-in-a-lifetime awesome that he'll dominate whoever they throw at him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kirk Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 I don't know how Hardy gets a shot at GSP after his stint in the UFC so far. I guess this division is really in the shitter right now. GSP has destroyed everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACCBiggz Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 I don't know how Hardy gets a shot at GSP after his stint in the UFC so far. I guess this division is really in the shitter. It's called Champion Domination. Your top contenders: Jon Fitch, GSP demolished him Josh Koscheck, GSP demolished him Thiago Alves, GSP demolished him It was down to Swick, Kampmann, and Condit. Kampmann d. Condit, then lost to Daley. And now Swick lost to Hardy, who by virtue of his win over Marcus put him in this position. If GSP didn't make everyone else look silly we'd likely have seen a rematch of some sort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 I don't know how Hardy gets a shot at GSP after his stint in the UFC so far. I guess this division is really in the shitter. 170 Pounds houses several tremendously dangerous and talented fighters, but St Pierre has separated himself from the pack. There's GSP, then the Elite 170s, and then the rest of them. I think Hardy provides a very dangerous threat to GSP's title reign. He has more power than Matt Serra, who shocked the world and beat Georges... he prevented Mike Swick from taking him down tonight, and I know that Swick isn't at GSP's level of wrestling, but with more work on takedown defense, I think Dan might be able to prevent Georges from totally dominating him on the mat like he has in the past against his opponents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACCBiggz Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 but with more work on takedown defense, I think Dan might be able to prevent Georges from totally dominating him on the mat like he has in the past against his opponents. That's completely wrong. The takedowns Swick tried are nothing like St. Pierre's. Dan will need to stay on his feet and try to land a haymaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 but with more work on takedown defense, I think Dan might be able to prevent Georges from totally dominating him on the mat like he has in the past against his opponents. That's completely wrong. The takedowns Swick tried are nothing like St. Pierre's. Dan will need to stay on his feet and try to land a haymaker. I didn't say he would prevent him from taking him down... but I think that he can do a better job than say, Alves, of not being completely controlled. Based on GSP's past fights though, the game plan HAS to be Avoid the Takedown, Knock His Head Off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACCBiggz Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 And Alves has better takedown defense than Hardy. You said he has to work on TD defense, which I agree with, but saying he stopped Swick's.... totally different style of takedowns against a compeltely different style of fighter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbahs Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Let's just put it this way guys... I'd rather see Fitch Koscheck Hughes Alves Dong Hyun Kim Brock Larson Chris Lytle Serra Thiago Trigg Before I see Hardy take on Swick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbahs Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 You didn't need a crystal ball to see the Vera/Randy fight going this way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kirk Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Let's just put it this way guys... I'd rather see Fitch Koscheck Hughes Alves Dong Hyun Kim Brock Larson Chris Lytle Serra Thiago Trigg Before I see Hardy take on Swick. Apart from Alves and Fitch I'd say Hardy would beat all of them, just because you don't like Hardy doesn't mean it won't be a good fight that will draw too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr. Potato Head Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Round one to Randy, unless Vera gets a point for everybody who fell asleep. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IzzyX Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Been real slow and technical fight...But I want to see some blows goddamnit! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kirk Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Round two Vera, hopefully it gets better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACCBiggz Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 (edited) 19-19. And don't know what you guys are watching, I'm on the edge of my seat. Very good technical fight. Edited November 14, 2009 by ACCBiggz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IzzyX Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Round two Vera, hopefully it gets better. Hopefully or else this was a waste of doing that survey in order to watch it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbahs Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 It's not that I don't like Hardy...it's just that they seem to be booking it because they haven't thought of anything else. They should run that fight in the UK. That would be the best idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IzzyX Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 (edited) It's not that I don't like Hardy...it's just that they seem to be booking it because they haven't thought of anything else. They should run that fight in the UK. That would be the best idea. In the O2 and I'll be there. FUCK I EXPECTED MORE OUT OF RANDY AND VERA! Edited November 14, 2009 by IzzyX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kirk Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 That takedown may have won Vera the fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACCBiggz Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 29-28 Couture in a fan-dabi-dozi fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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