EWR 2013 Stats Update: October ***PLEASE USE SPOILER TAGS***

[Bill1996]

I'm sorry Bill but amateur wrestling does not equal catch wrestling, they are two different things with different methods of achieving victory.

Perhaps I should reclarify... Catch Wrestling is, for the most part, the same amateur freestyle wrestling that is in the Olympics, only without the submissions. I was pretty tired when I typed last night, so hopefully, this makes a bit more sense.

No, technically, they're not "equal," but for EWR purposes, I would classify both of them as qualifying for shooting ability.

-Bill

But is catch wrestling the same as "shooting?" By and large, shoot fighting has been understood as a euphemism for MMA for some time.

To answer that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catch_wrestling

I'm sorry again Bill, but freestyle wrestling and catch wrestling aren't virtually the same and your link just proves it isn't the same as freestyle, olympic free style or college style wrestling focuses on throws and pins, not submissions, among other key diffrerences.

And if we are going down the "What is shoot fighting?" route

Shoot Fighting:

is a combat sport and martial art, with competitions governed by the International Shootfighting Association (ISFA). Shootfighting incorporates techniques from a multitude of traditional martial arts, the most principle of these being Muay Thai and Catch Wrestling.

Shootfighting was previously used synonymously with mixed martial arts competitions in Japan, as opposed to shoot-style professional wrestling competitions. This usage of the term is retired from common usage because it became a registered trademark of Bart Vale, who uses it to describe his hybrid fighting system derived from shoot wrestling. However, it is still sometimes used colloquially.

Examples which were once considered shootfighting styles, tournaments or organizations are Pancrase, Shoot boxing and Shooto, where many fighters still considered themselves to be shootfighters. Ken Shamrock is possibly the most recognisable shoot fighter, as this was the discipline he was credited as using in the early days of the UFC.

Per: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shootfighting

Did you just read what you posted?

"Shootfighting incorporates techniques from a multitude of traditional martial arts, the most principle of these being Muay Thai and Catch Wrestling."

Again, for the purposes of EWR (which to be honest, is all I really care about here), I would personally say that amateur wrestling, catch wrestling (since you seem insistent on separating the two) boxing, martial arts and any actual, competitive fighting would comfortably fit under "shoot fighting experience."

-Bill

Edited October 29, 2013 by Bill1996

[IDOL]

Really? I don't remember that from ewr, but I trust you so I guess I'm wrong about that.

Its weird because Pride never had a womans division and that is what the shooting tick is for so it would make sense for women to not be able to tour with Pride. But it has been a long time since I have played original ewr so I humbly retract statement. My apologies for the misinformation.

Here's my earlier question... How do you know that the shooting tick is only for PRIDE? I've never seen or heard this anywhere before. Keep in mind, one of the owners' "Preferences" is Mixed Martial Arts. I'd have to think that if you set an owner to that and they took over a promotion, they would look for workers with shooting ticked as well. This is why Shimmer and NCW-FF (women's promotions) have their owners set to "Prefers T And A." While Shimmer and NCW-FF aren't really "T and A" promotions, that leads owners with that preference to hire women.

I just am finding it very hard to believe that shooting was added to the worker statistics for the sole purpose of determining whether or not one of the Japanese promotions would hire them.

I just want to say I find it hilarious that NCW, a promotion that has been running consistantly for over 20 years is not in the game, while their side project is.

Help with stats, rosters, photos and the like to get them included?

[Azazel]

Really? I don't remember that from ewr, but I trust you so I guess I'm wrong about that.

Its weird because Pride never had a womans division and that is what the shooting tick is for so it would make sense for women to not be able to tour with Pride. But it has been a long time since I have played original ewr so I humbly retract statement. My apologies for the misinformation.

Here's my earlier question... How do you know that the shooting tick is only for PRIDE? I've never seen or heard this anywhere before. Keep in mind, one of the owners' "Preferences" is Mixed Martial Arts. I'd have to think that if you set an owner to that and they took over a promotion, they would look for workers with shooting ticked as well. This is why Shimmer and NCW-FF (women's promotions) have their owners set to "Prefers T And A." While Shimmer and NCW-FF aren't really "T and A" promotions, that leads owners with that preference to hire women.

I just am finding it very hard to believe that shooting was added to the worker statistics for the sole purpose of determining whether or not one of the Japanese promotions would hire them.

I just want to say I find it hilarious that NCW, a promotion that has been running consistantly for over 20 years is not in the game, while their side project is.

Help with stats, rosters, photos and the like to get them included?

I would suggest C*4, Alpha-1, Battlewar or NSPW to get in before NCW, although all 4 of them would have issues with a chunk of the roster already having 3 contracts.

I just find it funny seeing as Femme Fatale is the side project and way more important/recognized despite only having a few shows a year while NCW run super frequently and isn't barely recognized outside of itself.

[Bill1996]

I would suggest C*4, Alpha-1, Battlewar or NSPW to get in before NCW, although all 4 of them would have issues with a chunk of the roster already having 3 contracts.

I just find it funny seeing as Femme Fatale is the side project and way more important/recognized despite only having a few shows a year while NCW run super frequently and isn't barely recognized outside of itself.

I follow Shimmer and have pretty much maintained NCW-FF on my own, as Shimmer does a good job of promoting the NCW-FF shows. If someone wanted to put together all of the stuff for NCW to be included (with NCW-FF being a roster split) I'd have no issues with that. But, since I don't follow NCW in and of itself, I'm not gonna incorporate them into the game until someone that actually follows them is willing to make suggestions and keep them updated on a constant basis.

The three contracts thing is certainly an issue for a fair amount of workers as well. It's one of the reasons I'm hesitant about adding a promotion when 1/3 of their roster can't be added, due to already having three promotions. Not much we can do about that, though.

-Bill

[Mancuerda]

I remember someone used to be able to hex edit or modify the names of the Japanese touring promotions somehow. I can't remember exactly, but I'm fairly sure someone edited their names to fit a different game. So, I'm wondering if anyone would know how to do that here so you can change the names? IIRC, you could only edit the names to the same number of characters as the original names (For example, you couldn't change Pride FC to Shootfighting as it has more characters).

Just a thought... or the notepad thing might work, and it'd probably be easier to edit in case of changes.

[mkpunk]

I remember someone used to be able to hex edit or modify the names of the Japanese touring promotions somehow. I can't remember exactly, but I'm fairly sure someone edited their names to fit a different game. So, I'm wondering if anyone would know how to do that here so you can change the names? IIRC, you could only edit the names to the same number of characters as the original names (For example, you couldn't change Pride FC to Shootfighting as it has more characters).

Just a thought... or the notepad thing might work, and it'd probably be easier to edit in case of changes.

I had a copy of this at one point and I remember Toryumon was Dragon Gate and one of the promotions was K-Dojo.

I think the Hex idea works but I am not sure how anyone can do it.

[TheWho87]

Maybe a hex modded version of the game along with the DL links?

[Bill1996]

It's because it's meant soley to control who gets offered a contract to fight with Pride, a MMA promotion for MMA fighters, not pro-wrestlers --> hence it's meant for martial artists only. The 'shooting tick' exists solely so the game engine knows who could realistically end up there, precisely to avoid the absurd situation of having Eric Bischoff fighting Tito Ortiz in a legit MMA fight.

I discussed this in the other thread, but I'm about 99% sure that this is wrong as well. Having shooting ability checked also effects whether or not a worker will be hired by a promotion that has an owner that Prefers Mixed Martial Arts.

There are currently 2 owners in the game that are set to "Prefers Mixed Martial Arts." Antonio Inoki and Rick Bassman. I ran scenarios where both of these owners ran a promotion in the game starting with zero workers, to see who they would hire. This was the result:

Inoki as Owner

Day 1: 11 Workers signed, all have shooting ticked

Day 2: 22 Workers signed, all have shooting ticked

Day 3: 33 Workers signed, all have shooting ticked

Day 4: 35 Workers signed, all have shooting ticked

Day 5: No Changes

Day 6: No Changes

Day 7: No Changes

Bassman as Owner

Day 1: 11 Workers signed, all have shooting ticked

Day 2: 22 Workers signed, all have shooting ticked

Day 3: 33 Workers signed, all have shooting ticked

Day 4: 35 Workers signed, all have shooting ticked

Day 5: No Changes

Day 6: No Changes

Day 7: No Changes

One of the workers hired in both sims was Al Snow. So, I ran a sim after unchecking Shooting for Snow, to see if he would be hired. He was not.

Based on this, I'm confident in saying that this is effected by whether or not shooting is checked as well.

-Bill

[Azazel]

First off, what is the promotion cap in the game? 30 or 32? If its 32 I could suggest new promotions.

Rename Alex York to Alessandro Del Bruno and raise his speed to 73.

Raise Josh Alexanders Over to 35, Brawl to 71, Technical to 48 and Charisma to 63

Raise Mike Rollins' Brawl to 54 and lower his speed to 41

Raise Scotty O'Shea's Brawl to 56

Raise Sebatian Suave's Over to 18. Raise his Brawl to 51 and Tech to 58. Lower his speed to 48

Raise Tyson Dux's Over to 31

Raise Xandra Bale's Speed to 36

Tick High Spots for Addy Starr

Rename El Sombra to Marcus Marquez

Raise Ethan Pages Over to 36, Speed to 40, Brawl to 66 and Charisma to 67

Raise Giant Tiger's Speed to 36 and Tech to 24 since he actually wrestles now

Rename Markos Estrada to Marko Estrada (looks like a typo)

Rename Maximus Primal to Damien Styles

Raise Michael Von Payton's Over to 21 and his Tech to 73

Rename Moostafa to Lucky Sabiti

Raise Player Dos' Brawl to 43 and his Tech to 58

Raise Player Uno's Speed to 63

Remove Shooting Ability for Sexxxy Eddy

Raise Shayne Hawke's brawl to 58

Rename The Nazi Destructor to Logan Savage

Rename Pierre Shadows to Pierre Khoury

Lower The Amazing Darkstone's Over to 11 he barely wrestles anymore

Remove Player Dos Alter Ego "Stuart Philip Fiyed" because I have no idea where that came from

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Create a Love between Portia Perez and Archibald Peck/RD Evans

Create a friendship between Ethan Page and Josh Alexander

Create a Loyalty between Twiggy and Giant Tiger

Create a Friendship between Kevin Steen and Player Uno/Player Dos

Remove Love relationship between Cherry Bomb and Derek Wyled and create one between Cherry Bomb and Pepper Parks

Remove Love relationship between Mademoiselle Rachelle and Chakal

Remove Loyalty relationship between Rip Impact and Ultimo Dragon

Remove Love relationship between Vanessa Kraven and Scott Parker

Remove Love relationship between Candace LeRae and Kassius Ohno

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Tag Teams:

Add Checkmate (Chris Bishop and Lionel Knight) with 50 experience (they've been a team for years)
Rename The Gym Rats to Gym Rats 2.0 and raise tag experience to 35

Raise Monster Mafia experience to 15

Raise Super Smash Brothers Experience to 80

Remove Addy Starr and Xandra

Deactive All-Starters

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Remove Pornstar Juan, Joey Fitzmorris and Steve, both are already in the data under other names. Remove Iron Sheep, it was a 1 time gimmick.

This list have all announced their retirement or cannot wrestle due to injury.

Sunny War Cloud

Pierre Carl Ouelette

Moohamed

Max Boyer (came back but got reinjured, may come back again though)

Kenny the Bastard (Will likely never walk again, let alone wrestle)

21st Century Fox

Jayson Cypress

Holly Hilton

Elsa Bangz (at minimum remove Love relation with Beef Wellington, he is married).

The following I do not believe have wrestled in years and may need to be removed

Brian the Guppie (I would 100% remove him).

Vane

Viking

The Hacker

The Arsenal

Pat Hamilton

Josianne the Pussycat

Hardcore Ninja #1

Hardcore Ninja #2

Exess

Dave Tripps

Danyah

Bang Bang Pete

James Champagne

Osirus

Ryan Wood

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Squared Circle Wrestling is a strange one, since it needs a massive overhaul or to be swapped out completely. If it is to be kept...

Remove: Bang Bang Pete, Crazzy Steve, Derek Wylde, El Tornado, Jake O'Reilly, James Champagne, Jayson Cypress, Pepper Parks, RJ City, Robbie McAllister, Turcan Celik, Sebastian Suave

Add: Louis Lyndon, Flip Kendrick, El Sombra/Marcus Marquez and Black Serpent

This would change the roster size from 37 to 25 if my count is right. A lot of guys they use would not have enough contracts or need to be created.

Edited October 30, 2013 by Azazel

[ModestATT]

Been hearing things about TNA being up for sale, idk if this can be affected in game but I thought I'd throw it out there anyway just in case.

[mkpunk]

Remove Pornstar Juan, Joey Fitzmorris and Steve, both are already in the data under other names. Remove Iron Sheep, it was a 1 time gimmick.

This list have all announced their retirement or cannot wrestle due to injury.

Sunny War Cloud

Pierre Carl Ouelette

Moohamed

Max Boyer (came back but got reinjured, may come back again though)

Kenny the Bastard (Will likely never walk again, let alone wrestle)

21st Century Fox

Jayson Cypress

Holly Hilton

Elsa Bangz (at minimum remove Love relation with Beef Wellington, he is married).

The following I do not believe have wrestled in years and may need to be removed

Brian the Guppie (I would 100% remove him).

Vane

Viking

The Hacker

The Arsenal

Pat Hamilton

Josianne the Pussycat

Hardcore Ninja #1

Hardcore Ninja #2

Exess

Dave Tripps

Danyah

Bang Bang Pete

James Champagne

Osirus

Ryan Wood

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Squared Circle Wrestling is a strange one, since it needs a massive overhaul or to be swapped out completely. If it is to be kept...

Remove: Bang Bang Pete, Crazzy Steve, Derek Wylde, El Tornado, Jake O'Reilly, James Champagne, Jayson Cypress, Pepper Parks, RJ City, Robbie McAllister, Turcan Celik, Sebastian Suave

Add: Louis Lyndon, Flip Kendrick, El Sombra/Marcus Marquez and Black Serpent

This would change the roster size from 37 to 25 if my count is right. A lot of guys they use would not have enough contracts or need to be created.

The only worker I see should be removed entirely Kenny The Bastard due to the nature of his injury (I don't think the others would not be in the same boat and fine as non-workers but I could be wrong) and the double entries you mentioned if they have the other entry already in the game. This is because they "could return in some form" (think of Lance Storm returning part-time in 2012.)

Edit: update for Osaka Pro (credit to Osaka Hurricane):

Remove Hideyoshi, Kaijin Habu Okoto, Kugga, Masamune, MiracleMan

Add Quiet Storm to Osaka Pro

Add Mii Hibiscus and Miyuki Matsuyama as alter egos for Apple Miyuki

Add Shingen and Genaki as an alter ego for Hideyoshi (rename him to Shingen)

Add Orochi as an alter ego for MIYAWAKI

Rename Kaijin Habu Okoto to HUB

Move Magnitude Kishiwada from Dragon Gate to Big Japan for his touring commitment

Add friendship between Magnitude Kishiwada and Gamma

Edited October 30, 2013 by mkpunk

[jupiterhill]

Been hearing things about TNA being up for sale, idk if this can be affected in game but I thought I'd throw it out there anyway just in case.

I don't think it can really be changed unless we put no owner in charge and let the game pick one. Personally I don't believe the rumor, but even if it was true, I would wait until after it was sold to make any change.

Nikki Roxx I saw is announcing her retirement after her December 6th match for Lucky Promotions Wrestling Show. Guess its a little early to make her a non-worker, but something to keep track of for future reference.

I have a question about the game? How should this AJ Styles storyline work in EWR? He is taking bookings for other promotions (AAA for one), and defending the TNA title. I know he will be back in TNA at some point, but should we give him an open contract? I can't remember, is it possible to be unsackable in one company and have an open contract (work for other feds)? If so I think that would be a good temporary solution until he returns full time to TNA.

[mkpunk]

Been hearing things about TNA being up for sale, idk if this can be affected in game but I thought I'd throw it out there anyway just in case.

I don't think it can really be changed unless we put no owner in charge and let the game pick one. Personally I don't believe the rumor, but even if it was true, I would wait until after it was sold to make any change.

Nikki Roxx I saw is announcing her retirement after her December 6th match for Lucky Promotions Wrestling Show. Guess its a little early to make her a non-worker, but something to keep track of for future reference.

I have a question about the game? How should this AJ Styles storyline work in EWR? He is taking bookings for other promotions (AAA for one), and defending the TNA title. I know he will be back in TNA at some point, but should we give him an open contract? I can't remember, is it possible to be unsackable in one company and have an open contract (work for other feds)? If so I think that would be a good temporary solution until he returns full time to TNA.

It's like WWE when they would send out say Albert to an indy in the 90's/early 2000's. They do one show or so for an indy and then go elsewhere. Keep him under a written deal.

[Sousa]

Change Ethan Carter III primary finisher to "One Percent" (Headlock Driver) (Impact), Secondary finisher to Deviant (Airplane Spin used on indies) (Impact)

[arwrestling]

First off, what is the promotion cap in the game? 30 or 32? If its 32 I could suggest new promotions.

Rename Alex York to Alessandro Del Bruno and raise his speed to 73.

Raise Josh Alexanders Over to 35, Brawl to 71, Technical to 48 and Charisma to 63

Raise Mike Rollins' Brawl to 54 and lower his speed to 41

Raise Scotty O'Shea's Brawl to 56

Raise Sebatian Suave's Over to 18. Raise his Brawl to 51 and Tech to 58. Lower his speed to 48

Raise Tyson Dux's Over to 31

Raise Xandra Bale's Speed to 36

Tick High Spots for Addy Starr

Rename El Sombra to Marcus Marquez

Raise Ethan Pages Over to 36, Speed to 40, Brawl to 66 and Charisma to 67

Raise Giant Tiger's Speed to 36 and Tech to 24 since he actually wrestles now

Rename Markos Estrada to Marko Estrada (looks like a typo)

Rename Maximus Primal to Damien Styles

Raise Michael Von Payton's Over to 21 and his Tech to 73

Rename Moostafa to Lucky Sabiti

Raise Player Dos' Brawl to 43 and his Tech to 58

Raise Player Uno's Speed to 63

Remove Shooting Ability for Sexxxy Eddy

Raise Shayne Hawke's brawl to 58

Rename The Nazi Destructor to Logan Savage

Rename Pierre Shadows to Pierre Khoury

Lower The Amazing Darkstone's Over to 11 he barely wrestles anymore

Remove Player Dos Alter Ego "Stuart Philip Fiyed" because I have no idea where that came from

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Create a Love between Portia Perez and Archibald Peck/RD Evans

Create a friendship between Ethan Page and Josh Alexander

Create a Loyalty between Twiggy and Giant Tiger

Create a Friendship between Kevin Steen and Player Uno/Player Dos

Remove Love relationship between Cherry Bomb and Derek Wyled and create one between Cherry Bomb and Pepper Parks

Remove Love relationship between Mademoiselle Rachelle and Chakal

Remove Loyalty relationship between Rip Impact and Ultimo Dragon

Remove Love relationship between Vanessa Kraven and Scott Parker

Remove Love relationship between Candace LeRae and Kassius Ohno

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Tag Teams:

Add Checkmate (Chris Bishop and Lionel Knight) with 50 experience (they've been a team for years)

Rename The Gym Rats to Gym Rats 2.0 and raise tag experience to 35

Raise Monster Mafia experience to 15

Raise Super Smash Brothers Experience to 80

Remove Addy Starr and Xandra

Deactive All-Starters

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Remove Pornstar Juan, Joey Fitzmorris and Steve, both are already in the data under other names. Remove Iron Sheep, it was a 1 time gimmick.

This list have all announced their retirement or cannot wrestle due to injury.

Sunny War Cloud

Pierre Carl Ouelette

Moohamed

Max Boyer (came back but got reinjured, may come back again though)

Kenny the Bastard (Will likely never walk again, let alone wrestle)

21st Century Fox

Jayson Cypress

Holly Hilton

Elsa Bangz (at minimum remove Love relation with Beef Wellington, he is married).

The following I do not believe have wrestled in years and may need to be removed

Brian the Guppie (I would 100% remove him).

Vane

Viking

The Hacker

The Arsenal

Pat Hamilton

Josianne the Pussycat

Hardcore Ninja #1

Hardcore Ninja #2

Exess

Dave Tripps

Danyah

Bang Bang Pete

James Champagne

Osirus

Ryan Wood

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Squared Circle Wrestling is a strange one, since it needs a massive overhaul or to be swapped out completely. If it is to be kept...

Remove: Bang Bang Pete, Crazzy Steve, Derek Wylde, El Tornado, Jake O'Reilly, James Champagne, Jayson Cypress, Pepper Parks, RJ City, Robbie McAllister, Turcan Celik, Sebastian Suave

Add: Louis Lyndon, Flip Kendrick, El Sombra/Marcus Marquez and Black Serpent

This would change the roster size from 37 to 25 if my count is right. A lot of guys they use would not have enough contracts or need to be created.

Just a note here but El Tornado is still active with SCW, very much so. He is actually headlining an event in a week or 2.

[mkpunk]

Championship Wrestling from Hollywood News:

Raise the prestige of the Hollywood Hertiage title to 35.

Raise the prestige of the Hollywood Hertiage Tag Team titles to 30 and set PPRay (Peter Avalon & Ray Rosas) as the champions.

Add a title called the MAV TV title and set it to 30 prestige with Joey Ryan as champion.

Add a title called the Santino Bros Wrestling and set it at 20 prestige with Robby Phoenix as champion.

Remove Adam Pearce from the Family Stone stable.

Add Angel Lopez to CWFH

Birthmonth: July

Age: 23

Nationality: American

Weight: Heavyweight

Wages: $5,000

Employer: CWFH

Alignment: Heel

Position: Opener

Gimmick: Loner (member of The Nobodies)

Stats: 53/22/18/47/50/222/50/85/85

Primary Finisher: DDT (Impact)

Secondary Finisher: DDT (Impact)

Add Add BC Killer to CWFH

Nationality: American

Weight: Heavyweight

Wages: $5,000

Employer: CWFH

Alignment: Heel

Position: Opener

Gimmick: Monster

Stats: 58/25/17/47/50/18/50/85/85

Ticked: Menacing

Primary Finisher: Emerald Fusion (Impact)

Secondary Finisher: Body Disposal (Impact)

Add Brian Weston to CWFH

Birthmonth: April

Age: 29

Nationality; American

Weight: Lightweight

Wage: $5,000

Employer: CWFH

Alignment: Heel

Position: Opener

Gimmick: Loner (Member of the Nobodies)

Stats: 35/58/34/30/58/27/53/85/85

Primary Finisher: DDT (Impact)

Secondary Finisher: DDT (Impact)

Alter Ego: Ryan Weston

Add Che Cabrerra to CWFH

Birthmonth: Unknown

Age: 24? (graduated high school in 06)

Nationality; American

Weight: Heavyweight

Wage: $5,000

Employer: CWFH

Alignment: Heel

Position: Lower Midcard

Gimmick: Armed Forces

Stats: 42/55/48/30/58/27/58/85/85

Primary Finisher: DDT (Impact)

Secondary Finisher: DDT (Impact)

Alter Ego: Andres Cabrera

Rename Joey Kaos Munoz to Voodoo Kaos

Add Joey Ryan to CWFH

Add Josh Rozay to CWFH

Birthmonth: January

Age: 26

Nationality: American

Weight: lightweight

Employer: CWFH

Alignment: Heel

Position: Opener

Manager: Stu Stone

Gimmick: Cocky

Stats: 32/60/48/33/62/26/55/75/80

Primary Finisher: DDT (Impact)

Secondary Finisher: DDT (Impact)

Remove Kahagas

Add Kayam to CWFH

Add Leo Blaze to CWFH

Birthmonth: August

Age: 28

Nationality: American

Weight: lightweight

Employer: CWFH

Alignment: Heel

Position: Lower Midcard

Manager: Stu Stone

Gimmick: Cocky

Stats: 32/66/45/33/62/30/55/75/80

Primary Finisher: DDT (Impact)

Secondary Finisher: DDT (Impact)

Add Pinky to CWFH

Nationality: American

Weight: Heavyweight

Wages: $5,000

Employer: CWFH

Alignment: Heel

Position: Opener

Gimmick: Loner (member of The Nobodies)

Stats: 53/20/17/47/50/222/50/85/85

Primary Finisher: DDT (Impact)

Secondary Finisher: DDT (Impact)

Ricky Mandel's secondary finisher should be a submission hold.

Add Robby Phoenix to CWFH

Nationality; American

Weight: Lightweight

Wage: $5,000

Employer: CWFH

Alignment: Face

Position: Opener

Gimmick: Blue Chipper

Stats: 37/68/34/30/58/27/53/85/85

Trainer Ticked

Primary Finisher: DDT (Impact)

Secondary Finisher: DDT (Impact)

Add Sasha Darevko to CWF-H.

[Azazel]

Just a note here but El Tornado is still active with SCW, very much so. He is actually headlining an event in a week or 2.

I just looked it up, and you are right, Dux and Tornado are reuniting at the next show, but to be fair he hasn't been part of their events recently and isnt' on the roster page!

[arwrestling]

their roster page is extremely out of date... at least everytime i check out a show of theirs it is.