MLB 2020/2021 Off-Season Thread

[Meacon Keaton]

Oh I think Schilling will get in at some point, but I hope he never does.

[Krabby]

lmao who put LaTroy Hawkins on the ballot

[gunnar hendershow]

1 hour ago, JMarushin said:

lmao who put LaTroy Hawkins on the ballot

LaTroy Hawkins because he played for so long.

Schilling, Wagner, Bonds, Clemens, Manny, Sheffield, and Vizquel all should get in for one reason or another. I hate Schilling the person but given the standards of guys like Jack Morris getting in you have to put him in. Helton is a tough guy because his numbers are deceptively not as good as they look on the surface. But since Walker has now been inducted I think it's entirely possible Helton gets the same "we don't care about benefits of playing in Denver" treatment by some voters.

It's going to be a couple lean years of not sure things on the ballots which hopefully lets Bonds and Clemens at least go in. Both are locks even if you take away everything they did post-PEDs. Manny did test positive but I just don't think the arbitrary nature of it. Especially since at some point it'll come out Bagwell or Biggio was definitely juicing.

[Meacon Keaton]

Theo has stepped down from his post with the Cubs. Next stop...Queens...?

[Maxx]

Nah, he's got to go to Cleveland, they've go the longest active drought.

[gunnar hendershow]

I know they brought a title to the North Side and everything but the Ricketts clearly now just intend to strip the Cubs for parts, no? That entire championship core will be gone by 2022 or so.

[Maxx]

Sucks to see it happen buuuuut let's just check in on something

@Your Mom was it worth it?

[Your Mom]

Absolutely. We could be miserable for the rest of my life and I would still say it was worth it

[gunnar hendershow]

Exactly how I'll feel should the Orioles ever win a championship.

[The Buscher]

Yep.  I still think about the missed opportunities in the 2015 World Series and how all of the bullshit I've been through as a Mets fan would've been worth it if they could've won it all.

[Meacon Keaton]

1 hour ago, Maxx said:

Nah, he's got to go to Cleveland, they've go the longest active drought.

Theo can’t just throw money at the problem in Cleveland like he could in Queens. 

[GhostMachine]

9 hours ago, B-li Manning said:

My vote would be:  Bonds, Clemens, Helton, Jones, Kent, Rolen, Schilling, Sheffield, Vizquel, Wagner

No Manny because he got caught in the era of PED testing.  No Sosa because he's getting like 13% of the vote through 8 years and is a lost cause.

Ultimately I think Schilling is the only lock (got 70% last year).  A Schilling-only induction ceremony would have been a nightmare but now if they can get fans into Cooperstown by next summer it'll be a joint induction with the class of 2020 and he'd be drowned out by Jeter support.

 

No Manny because he got caught, yet you'd vote in Bonds, who is questionable, and Clemens who was more or less caught but continued to deny it?

Clemens was my favorite pitcher.....until he was busted.

My vote would be: Helton, Jones, Schilling, Vizquel, Wagner. Kent and Rolen can wait until next year, and Sheffield is a bubble player for me. I have no problem either way if he gets in or not.

Schilling will probably get in this time, and deserves it despite being a garbage human. Then again, if being garbage as a human kept people out, there are a lot of players who wouldn't be in. Most notably Ty Cobb, who once went after a one-armed man in the stands.

[Maxx]

If you aren't prepared to fight Ty Cobb, you shouldn't be attending a game.

[gunnar hendershow]

Charging after the fan in the stands isn't even towards the bottom of the list of reprehensible facts about Ty Cobb.

[GhostMachine]

Oh, its deifnitely not. He was the most hated player of his era, and for good reason. 

That incident with the fan is what eventually led to the players forning a union. Because his teammates protested Cobb being suspended for it, since the league wasn't doing anything to protect players from abusive fans, and that was the last straw. The fan in question had hecked Cobb the entire game, and set him off with a racial slur. 

He also assaulted an elevator operator, slashing him with a pen knife, and tried to claim self-defense. The `self-defense' was that Cobb was losing the fight. The fight started because the elevator operator was following orders and refused to take him to a floor other than the one Cobb's room was on.

 

[Krabby]

Fun fact, I am related to Ty Cobb

[gunnar hendershow]

Cano suspended all of 2021 for PEDs.

[The Buscher]

Welp, there's your answer for why he was so good this season.

[Meacon Keaton]

Perhaps all the Mets should consider it.

[GhostMachine]

56 minutes ago, damshow said:

Cano suspended all of 2021 for PEDs.

And its his second suspension. He was suspended 80 games back in 2018, when he was with the Mariners.