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19 minutes ago, Cronge said:

Of course, fuck Russia. Since we have some people that are homophobic, let's brand the entire country's population that way as well.

Also, let's not talk about most of our people being friendly and mingling with fans from all around the world, no matter the nationality, the color of their skin, or the sexual preferences - something I saw with my own two eyes and not once either. Instead, let's point all of the attention towards those that go attacking others and say "fuck the entire country" because of that.

We get that, but your politicians and police represent your nation to the world, and they aren't showering you in glory (like America's and the UK's to be honest)

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45 minutes ago, Cronge said:

Of course, fuck Russia. Since we have some people that are homophobic, let's brand the entire country's population that way as well.

Also, let's not talk about most of our people being friendly and mingling with fans from all around the world, no matter the nationality, the color of their skin, or the sexual preferences - something I saw with my own two eyes and not once either. Instead, let's point all of the attention towards those that go attacking others and say "fuck the entire country" because of that.

You (as in Russians, and in huge numbers too) vote for the guys who pass laws banning homosexual propaganda, which has resulted in hate crimes against LGBT people doubling. You vote for the people who put and keep cunts like Ramzan Kadyrov in power, someone who runs literal concentration camps. You vote for the people who fund motorcycle gangs and militia who have threatened to assault gay World Cup fans.

Russia actively persecutes homosexuals and until Russians bother to do something about that, fuck Russia and fuck anyone who seeks to excuse that.

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I'm not saying the problem isn't there. As far as political establishment goes, there's still work to be done, and not just in that department. I'm not making any excuses for our government either - some of the things they say or do (both in domestic and foreign policy) make me, at best, wonder and at worst, make my stomach turn. What I'm saying is, raging homophobes don't make the most of the population, not in the big cities at least and the real situation differs from how it's presented in the press - otherwise, we wouldn't have any gay bars here. I once worked in the company where one of the guys was openly gay and none of my colleagues (or me) had any problem with that. He wasn't ever attacked by anyone else as well and it's just one of the examples I can provide.

I also get the part about our politicians and police being responsible for the country's image - one of such instances was mentioned in this thread. When I heard about that MP saying Russian women shouldn't have sex with foreigners, I was like, "what the fuck is she doing? She's making the mockery of the entire country for the whole world". No wonder another MP had quickly covered up for her and said the complete opposite.

As for voting for Putin, I'm baffled by that as well and there're a lot of people in Russia who feel the same way, but that's a point for a whole other debate, as well as Chechnya. I personally didn't vote for him and think it's time for him to go away, for a whole array of reasons, not just him being in power for so long. But saying, "fuck Russia", to me, is a narrow view of the situation and is akin to me saying "fuck USA" just because I've read that the police killed an unarmed person again.

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3 minutes ago, Arjen Robben said:

Why does Martin Keown keep inhaling or breathing in through his nose quite audibly every time he stops speaking. I've noticed it and now I can't not notice it.

I've noticed this for the last few years - and yes it's annoying.

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Egypt are set up quite solid. Uruguay struggling to get any breakthrough whatsoever. Godin looks pissed, great little run before by him. 

Could see Egypt nicking one if Salah comes on 

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Salah has been such a fucking tease mind. Crowd went nuts when he was first shown on the big screen. Then he waited about 10 minutes before messing about with his shinpads to get them going again. Can't wait til he goes for a little warm--up.

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