The Quasi Juice Posted August 9, 2010 Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 (edited) Capello could also have called up a completely new squad just for this friendly to see how certain players perform in training and the match. Why not? Why would you make the likes of Lampard and Gerrard play in a friendly before the season? Look at the Dutch squad for Wednesday, only 1 player played in the World Cup that's in the squad. Obviously the Dutch team came much further in the World Cup but still, Capello could have called up all new players, sending a signal that he's willing to change and give other players a shot and at the same time he gives the World Cup players a rest. Foster Hart (he was at the WC though, should become no.1 GK) Kirkland Brown Onuoha Cahill Dawson (didn't play) Shawcross Warnock Gibbs Richards Lescott Huddlestone Parker Cattermole Wilshere Young Walcott Bentley Johnson C. Cole Bent Zamora Sturridge (why not?) Along those lines. It's a meaningless friendly anyway. Edited August 9, 2010 by The Quasi Juice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted August 9, 2010 Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 That alternative squad just confirms my idea that we wont win anything for a very long time, pit that against Spain and you're looking at a thrashing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Rosler Posted August 9, 2010 Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 I got a bit bored so made my alternative squad, included some 'older' players so they're the experienced players who help the newbies into the international fold. Joe Hart, Scott Carson and Chris Kirkland Phil Neville, Roger Johnson, Gary Cahill, Phil Jagielka, Andy Dawson, Sol Campbell, Michael Dawson Jack Rodwell, Lee Cattermole, Danny Murphy, Adam Johnson, Theo Walcott, Scott Parker, Ashley Young, David Beckham Michael Owen, Gabriel Agbonlahor, Bobby Zamora, Darren Bent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
METALMAN Posted August 9, 2010 Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 I don't see myself as a number three or four keeper and find that role very frustrating. Paul Robinson could do with a reality check. >_> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin R.W. Posted August 9, 2010 Admin Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 Why's that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmb211087 Posted August 9, 2010 Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 Yeah, why? Out of the English keepers only one had a better season than him and that was Joe Hart, the facts of the league table and goals conceded show that. WTF has Foster ever done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pesci Posted August 9, 2010 Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 I probably would've had Robinson fighting with Hart for the number one spot with Foster as third choice. I don't see why Robinson would retire - he's still quite young for a goalie. As for Wes Brown - good riddance. He was always below average for England and I'd rather see someone else given a chance as the back-up right back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamite Posted August 9, 2010 Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 Wes Brown is no big loss for England. I like him but a 30year old, injury-prone defender who isn't going to be a regular this year for Man Utd isn't what England need right now. If Micah Richards can get regular playing time then he is young enough and good enough to do Brown's role as cover for RB/CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksbros6 Posted August 9, 2010 Report Share Posted August 9, 2010 (edited) I probably would've had Robinson fighting with Hart for the number one spot with Foster as third choice. I don't see why Robinson would retire - he's still quite young for a goalie. As for Wes Brown - good riddance. He was always below average for England and I'd rather see someone else given a chance as the back-up right back. Can't see Wes Brown as a massive loss. Robbo I'm dissappointed about. I would have taken him to the World Cup instead of Green (who's team only avoided relegation by the skin of their teeth). James I can understand going in spite of getting relegated as he was an experienced head both in the #1 and backup roles. Robbo had played an entire World Cup campaign for England though and had come off the back of a good season with Blackburn. I think he would have been an asset in South Africa, as opposed to two rather inexperienced goalies. That said I'm not convinced that removing himself from selection is the right answer. He might have split 45 mins with Hart in the friendly and continued his good form in the league? Edited August 9, 2010 by marksbros6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Quasi Juice Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 (edited) I probably would've had Robinson fighting with Hart for the number one spot with Foster as third choice. I don't see why Robinson would retire - he's still quite young for a goalie. As for Wes Brown - good riddance. He was always below average for England and I'd rather see someone else given a chance as the back-up right back. Can't see Wes Brown as a massive loss. Robbo I'm dissappointed about. I would have taken him to the World Cup instead of Green (who's team only avoided relegation by the skin of their teeth). James I can understand going in spite of getting relegated as he was an experienced head both in the #1 and backup roles. Robbo had played an entire World Cup campaign for England though and had come off the back of a good season with Blackburn. I think he would have been an asset in South Africa, as opposed to two rather inexperienced goalies. That said I'm not convinced that removing himself from selection is the right answer. He might have split 45 mins with Hart in the friendly and continued his good form in the league? I think being an England goalie brings a lot of pressure. He's been through it all already and probably can't be arsed to go through it again. Joe Hart is the future and should play from now on. Knowing this, there's no reason for him to return to the English team except honor. By the way, did Capello give any reason as to why he didn't call up Parker and Rodwell? Edited August 10, 2010 by The Quasi Juice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pesci Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 But if Joe Hart makes a massive fuck up, there's gonna be media clamouring for Capello to call up someone else - or if Hart gets injured. Foster's spurned every chance he's had and Robinson could easily force his way back in. Kirkland was the future - he was plagued by injury. Carson was the future - he made a massive fuck-up, didn't turn out to be anywhere near as good as people thought he would and he hasn't played for England since. Hart is better than both of those were at his age but it's retarded to put all your eggs in the basket of a guy who's had one good season at Birmingham and a decent season before that at Man City. Hopefully Robinson can be tempted back out. Though ideally Foster will actually get good and be the Nigel Martyn to Hart's Seaman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobo Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 Clearly Almunia is your only hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanky316 Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 Cudicini is now England qualified too isn't he? Well it's always worked for the rugby and cricket teams to go for the foreigners so no reason why we can't improve the football team by doing the same thing, mind you Hargreaves didn't really work out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 I think there's a gentlemen's agreement between the home nations that stops that sort of thing from happening. I would say sorting the defence is a bigger priority, it was truly terrible against Germany. Could have Buffon or Casillas in goal and they'd still be powerless to do anything if teams can get through so easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobo Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 I think there's a gentlemen's agreement between the home nations that stops that sort of thing from happening. Really? Cause the Jack Charlton era Republic of Ireland teams were filled with players who could've played for England or Scotland but were coaxed into playing for Ireland. And not bad ones either - John Aldridge (England), Tony Cascarino (Scotland, England or Italy and as it turned out not Ireland at all ), Ray Houghton (Scotland) and Chris Hughton (England) for example. Of course now its a bit different seeing as we generally only take players who have no hope of ever getting into an England beyond maybe youth level. I'd say England will eventually be in a place where the young foreign academy players that Premier League clubs are bringing in now could be scouted as potential English internationals. It's worked elsewhere (and probably Hargreaves would've worked out a bit better if he hadn't been so injury prone in the last couple of years) but of course that does bring in nightmare visions of tabloid headlines. Especially The Daily Mail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pesci Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 Can we just change Mikel Arteta's name to Michael Arterton and write out all history of this Arteta fella ever existing? And find some way of making him paler. Damn Iberian tans making every Spanish bloke look awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieG Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 Darren Bent's pulled out with a back injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin R.W. Posted August 10, 2010 Admin Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 But if Joe Hart makes a massive fuck up, there's gonna be media clamouring for Capello to call up someone else - or if Hart gets injured. Foster's spurned every chance he's had and Robinson could easily force his way back in. Kirkland was the future - he was plagued by injury. Carson was the future - he made a massive fuck-up, didn't turn out to be anywhere near as good as people thought he would and he hasn't played for England since. Hart is better than both of those were at his age but it's retarded to put all your eggs in the basket of a guy who's had one good season at Birmingham and a decent season before that at Man City. Hopefully Robinson can be tempted back out. Though ideally Foster will actually get good and be the Nigel Martyn to Hart's Seaman. From everything I understand, Robinson's issue is with Capello - so he might be tempted back out, but not whilst Capello is around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 So Foster is now injured and we now have a keeper from Watford and some young guy from Blackburn Rovers?! Surely there are a lot more keepers before you end up at those two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Quasi Juice Posted August 10, 2010 Report Share Posted August 10, 2010 Wow, how random. What about Kirkland? Hell, what about Myhill? Never even heard of these two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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