The England thread

[Matt]

It's quite easy to explain: footballers tend to be spoilt, egotistical pricks with an undeserved sense of self-importance.

[Dingle]

It's quite easy to explain: footballers tend to be spoilt, egotistical pricks with an undeserved sense of self-importance.

Like Gazza coming to Burnley and complaining at the thought of washing his own kit. Probably shouldn't ruin your marriage if you can't wash your own clothes/afford to pay someone to do it for you.

[Lineker]

The Football Association of Ireland says it expects to announce within the next 48 hours that a friendly match with England will take place at Wembley next May.

Reports in the Irish press today relating to a match between the two countries are "correct in principle" according to the FAI.

[Starvinho]

England team vs Ukraine: 1 Joe Hart, 2 Glen Johnson, 3 Leighton Baines, 4 Steven Gerrard ©, 5 Joleon Lescott, 6 Phil Jagielka, 7 James Milner, 8 Frank Lampard, 9 Jermain Defoe, 10 Tom Cleverley, 11 Alex Oxlade Chamberlain

As expected then.

Subs: 12 Kyle Walker, 13 John Ruddy, 14 Ryan Bertrand, 15 Gary Cahill, 16 Michael Carrick, 17 Jake Livermore, 18 Adam Lallana, 19 Daniel Sturridge, 20 Danny Welbeck, 21 Raheem Sterling, 22 Jack Butland

Edited September 11, 2012 by Starvinho

[Dingle]

Aww, wanted Cahill to get a chance starting but Jagielka's fine. I also think we should maybe utilise our 'World Cup 11' squad a bit more, as this isn't it. Although I'd probably just change one of Lamps/Gerrard (Unless Roy fixes the curse of them "never playing well together") and Wellbeck for Defoe (Rooney would play the Cleverly AMC role, and Cleverly would be moved elsewhere if possible). Obviously not the ideal defensive line-up, but that's down to injuries, not selection.

[Matt]

Wow, that bench looks awful. Take out Walker, Cahill, Welbeck and Carrick and I could easily believe that you'd just shown me the Scotland bench and they'd all just discovered their grandma was Scottish.

[Dingle]

Wow, that bench looks awful. Take out Walker, Cahill, Welbeck and Carrick and I could easily believe that you'd just shown me the Scotland bench and they'd all just discovered their grandma was Scottish.

Same grandma? They'd have awesome team chem.

[stokeriño]

Ryan Bertrand says fuck you.

[Lineker]

Defoe goal disallowed wrongly for an 'elbow'.

[Starvinho]

Nothing wrong with that! Cracking finish by Defoe, he's really on form at the moment. Bollocks.

[Dan]

Shocking, diving prick.

[Gazz]

Cheating barstard.

Never mind, keeps my 2-0 with Lampard scoring first bet alive.

[Lineker]

1-0 Ukraine.

[Gazz]

Good to know Lescott actually can hit a donkey's arse from 15 yards...

[Baddar]

Oh, Tom.

[ZJ Penn]

I don't watch much football anymore, especially international football (probably a good few years since I watched religiously), but is diving that rampant? Seriously, Ukraine would be the last team I'd think would go down like that.

Do they/are they (FIFA/UEFA whoever) doing anything about it?

Edited September 11, 2012 by ZJ Penn

[Starvinho]

Good finish by the Ukraine lad but we should've scored at least 2 ourselves in that half. Cleverley's miss is unforgivable, it was one of those where it was easier to score than miss! Not to worry though, we'll sort it out second half.

[Cymbols]

My great gran is 16.5% Ukrainian. So, I'm totes supporting them. Co-incidentally, Wales are 4-1 down

[Gazz]

How does someone be 1/6th of a nationality?

Surely it can only be 1/2, 1/4, 1/8th and so on.

[TCO]

Maybe she was born to 2 parents with different dual nationalities, who were each born in another country, giving the child 6 different nationalities. One of which being Ukraine

It's possible!