=BK= Posted July 23, 2017 Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 A lot of the impression wrestling leaves is going to be based off what real combat sports do. In Kayfabe Ultimo went around and collected belts from everywhere. That makes the picture more impressive than if it were done the boxing and MMA way and he just got a belt every time he defended a single championship. He's a man covered in championships, not title defence trophies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted July 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 17 hours ago, Astro Forky said: It really doesn't though....again...we're talking about a scripted sport over a real combat sport. I think we've done the "titles dont mean anything in wrestling" debate to absolute death on here, I maintain that to be deemed worthy of winning titles in pro wrestling is an achievement in itself, I will never buy the "titles are meaningless props" argument some espouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cymbols Posted July 23, 2017 Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 No, wrestling titles do mean something for sure, but they aren't even close to being as impressive as winning MMA titles, because of the manner in which they are awarded. Yeah, you've got to be good to be in the picture, but at the end of the day, it's predetermined who gets them, whereas in MMA it's actually something you've got to be the best to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draevyn Posted July 23, 2017 Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 3 hours ago, Rooney! said: I think we've done the "titles dont mean anything in wrestling" debate to absolute death on here, I maintain that to be deemed worthy of winning titles in pro wrestling is an achievement in itself, I will never buy the "titles are meaningless props" argument some espouse. I didn't say they didn't mean anything so you're putting words into my mouth. In the context of their profession, titles should always mean something. However titles in combat sports are always going to be more impressive than those in a predetermined sport as Cymbols has stated above. While wrestling has somewhat adopted characteristics of MMA, and MMA has done with Wrestling, they are still two completely different athletic endeavors and their accomplishments within each realm will always be graded differently and on a sliding scale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted July 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 13 minutes ago, Astro Forky said: I didn't say they didn't mean anything so you're putting words into my mouth. In the context of their profession, titles should always mean something. However titles in combat sports are always going to be more impressive than those in a predetermined sport as Cymbols has stated above. While wrestling has somewhat adopted characteristics of MMA, and MMA has done with Wrestling, they are still two completely different athletic endeavors and their accomplishments within each realm will always be graded differently and on a sliding scale. Totally agree there, and didn't mean to come across that way my last post was more about the overall debate on titles in wrestling than your comments in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Posted July 24, 2017 Report Share Posted July 24, 2017 Chong Li's winning streak in the Kumite is more impressive than everything else, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Adam Posted August 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 @MDK why do you hate my threads so much? First your own personal Vanarama thread, now this. I fancied going out to watch this fight but might just stay in now, they've both done my head right in during the build-up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDK Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 12 minutes ago, Dwight K. Schrute said: @MDK why do you hate my threads so much? First your own personal Vanarama thread, now this. I fancied going out to watch this fight but might just stay in now, they've both done my head right in during the build-up. I had no idea! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMarrio Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 48 minutes ago, Dwight K. Schrute said: @MDK why do you hate my threads so much? First your own personal Vanarama thread, now this. I fancied going out to watch this fight but might just stay in now, they've both done my head right in during the build-up. Fortunately there's a few of my mates having a sit off in their's so we are just gonna get a bunch of ale in, get food and probably have a PES/FIFA tournament and a poker night beforehand. Otherwise I don't think I'd be arsed staying up and watching it. That and paying for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colly Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 Yeah we've got the same plan (I just found PES 6 while moving house!). No doubt I'll fall asleep at the opening bell as I did with Holyfield v Tyson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDK Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 7 minutes ago, Colly said: (I just found PES 6 while moving house!) Were the PlayStation discs bigger than I thought or was your house really small? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted August 23, 2017 Report Share Posted August 23, 2017 I'm not suggesting he will win, but I'd rather McGregor won. There are transcendental athletes who amaze you and earn your respect when they are completely dominant in their sport. Mayweather isn't that. I'd love for hubris reasons to see his undefeated streak go against a non-boxer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lusophone Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 It's really in 'asteroid hits the stadium' territory for me, both are odious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 6 hours ago, Colly said: Yeah we've got the same plan (I just found PES 6 while moving house!). No doubt I'll fall asleep at the opening bell as I did with Holyfield v Tyson. Holyfield versus Tyson? Olddddddddd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 5 hours ago, MadJack said: It's really in 'asteroid hits the stadium' territory for me, both are odious. Oh, I'm sure for some they are. I also just feel that, given those circumstances, it'd be funnier/more damaging/etc if the boxer gets beaten at his own game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baddar Posted August 24, 2017 Report Share Posted August 24, 2017 Paddy Power have paid out on all bets placed on a Mayweather outright win, because when they checked "only one of them is a boxer". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Mom Posted August 26, 2017 Report Share Posted August 26, 2017 I want to see this but there is no way these guys are getting my money and I don't really feel like dealing with bar people during this thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDK Posted August 26, 2017 Report Share Posted August 26, 2017 1 minute ago, The Chiksrara Special said: I want to see this but there is no way these guys are getting my money and I don't really feel like dealing with bar people during this thing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobfoc Posted August 26, 2017 Report Share Posted August 26, 2017 3 hours ago, The Chiksrara Special said: I want to see this but there is no way these guys are getting my money and I don't really feel like dealing with bar people during this thing Is there free radio commentary of the fight in America? I'll be listening to it on Radio 5 Live here. Can you listen to that online where you are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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