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7 minutes ago, Chris2K said:

 

I can't quite work out how Seb avoided a penalty for his off-track over-take on Massa.

Probably because Massa hasn't complained about it as far as I'm aware. Race control generally don't investigate that sort of thing unless someone is vocal about it.

Plus Massa's oversteer knocked Vettel off the track anyway.

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Formula 1 bosses have revealed details of the 2021 engine plans that were presented to teams on Tuesday.

F1 teams met with the FIA, the commercial rights holder and potential new manufacturers in Paris to discuss the objectives for the new engine rules that will be introduced for the 2021 season.

Work will continue for another 12 months on the details of the new engine specification, and the FIA said that the design and development of the new power units will not be possible until that process is complete - ensuring that F1's existing manufacturers will continue working on their current engines through 2018.

The proposal for 2021 includes keeping the current 1.6-litre V6 turbo hybrid engine, but running it at 3000rpm higher "to improve the sound".

In order to try to simplify the internals of the power unit, the MGU-H will be removed, and several prescriptive design parameters will be introduced to "restrict development costs and discourage extreme designs and running conditions".

These will include internal and external parameters, with the latter allowing for what the FIA described as "a plug-and-play engine/chassis/transmission swap capability".

A single turbo with dimensional constraints and weight limits will be mandated, while a standard energy store will be introduced alongside control electronics, which have long been standard in F1.

The MGU-K will be made more powerful, with a focus on manual driver deployment of the additional power, similar to the way KERS was used when it was first introduced into F1 in 2009.

This feature will also give drivers the option to save up energy over several laps to increase the tactical elements involved in racing.

An FIA statement added that "during the remaining part of 2017 and 2018, the FIA and F1 will also work with the teams to establish power unit test and development restrictions as well as other cost containment measures".

F1 sporting boss Ross Brawn said: "The 2021 power unit is an example of the future way the FIA as regulators, F1 as commercial right holders, the teams and the manufacturers as stakeholders will work together for the common good of the sport.

"The proposal presented today was the outcome of a series of meetings which took place during 2017 with the current teams and the manufacturers who showed their interest to be part of the pinnacle of motorsport.

"Also, we've carefully listened to what the fans think about the current power unit and what they would like to see in the near future with the objective to define a set of regulations which will provide a powertrain that is simpler, cheaper and noisier and will create the conditions to facilitate new manufacturers to enter Formula 1 as powertrain suppliers and to reach a more levelled field in the sport."

Fuel regulations, and potential limits on the number of fuels used, will also be investigated.

A series of meetings will now commence with all interested parties to develop the proposal in what the FIA described as "the spirit of the widest possible cooperation".

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As much as I like him the goodwill of last year's retirement isn't there this time, partly because it's already been done, but his behaviour in trying to keep the seat in the last couple of months by trashing Kubica and Di Resta hasn't been very dignified.

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51 minutes ago, Chris2K said:

As much as I like him the goodwill of last year's retirement isn't there this time, partly because it's already been done, but his behaviour in trying to keep the seat in the last couple of months by trashing Kubica and Di Resta hasn't been very dignified.

In all fairness he did Williams a massive favour by delaying his retirement a year due to Bottas' sudden departure, it wouldn't exactly have been "dignified" of the team to dump him for the last few races for someone else after he did that for them.

Massa is a class act, always has been and for me remains a very under-rated driver.

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I think even last year the time was ripe for Massa to retire. He'll always be one of the drivers that had the chance to become world champion, and to see it slip away partly through no fault of his own. He was a class act for years, being a low-upkeep driver that sat next to the greats and shared a team with three world champions. He deserved that 2008 title, but it wasn't to be.

But still his time has come, Williams F1 has stagnated and his career stagnated after he joined Williams. He's been a consistent hand, but at the same time hasn't had any big moments either anymore. So yeah, he's a legend in his own right, but probably will always be known as the second driver next to THE Guy.

I wonder if the rumour is true that he'll fully retire next week in Brazil.

If Kubica gets the seat, I really think it might be a one-time affair, the feel good story of the season. But I honestly don't see Williams F1 seeing a future in Kubica either. But with the Martini deal as it stands (Martini wants an older driver because they don't want to be associated with youth), Kubica might just easily get a drive. Or else maybe Paul di Resta gets his second chance at sticking around.

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