General Gaming Thread 2021

[IDOL]

Why do people play Squads in Fortnite if they aren’t going to stay with the team? Shit is infuriating.

[Ruki]

On 15/09/2021 at 20:57, Ruki Returns said:

https://www.fanbyte.com/news/deltarune-chapter-2-releases-september-17/

 

Deltarune chapter 2!!!

I just finished this up tonight. I really enjoyed it! The writing, comedy and music are still as on point as they were for Undertale and Chapter 1. 

Spoiler

Pretty sure that Kris is the knight that the Queen references. Also, there's basically a Genocide route! Which apparently ends with a super hard boss fight, so I'm not even gonna attempt. 

 

[tristy]

So I guess Netflix is getting into the gaming world - they've bought Night School Studio, who developed Oxenfree 1 & 2.

Let's see if their venture is more successful than Amazon's attempt, which has only produced a bunch of mobile/tablet games, a console game based off of Grand Tour (lolwat) and the recently released MMORPG, New World.

[King Ellis]

I've not watched much Grand Tour but, if it's similar to Top Gear in terms of some of the challenges they did, I think some of it could translate to a game. In Forza Horizon for example, they had events where you'd be racing a plane or train or whatever which was pretty much lifted from TG (possibly that's popped up elsewhere before?) so you could have something similar. Would be pretty shallow if it were just that mind but I'm sure there's other stuff they can think of.

[Bobfoc]

Forza Horizon has had official partnerships with Top Gear in the past. Forza Horizon 4 had a full series of licensed Top Gear challenges, complete with narration from the presenter.

In the PS2/Xbox/Gamecube era, almost every popular show had a bad game spin-off, but The Grand Tour game is a bit of an anomaly in that regard now. A couple of reviews I've looked at say that it really doesn't have enough content to justify itself as a standalone game, so maybe it would be better served as DLC for another established driving game.

[JasonM]

I think the way FH4 implemented it worked really well. Ten challenges with narration as bobfoc mentioned.

Also lots of Horizon is about doing outrageous and cool stuff.

I don't think an actual game that's solely based on a specific format will work though, FH works because of how flexible it presents you the challenges, races, open world, etc. Where you are never wanting for options to fill your time with.

Maybe in the past, with games like Stuntman or Driver you could take risks because costs were lower, but I feel nowadays games like Horizon show you can give everyone a litany of challenges and options is much more bang for buck (They even had Lego and Hot Wheels DLC!) than anything a new studio could make.

And it's probably more financially interesting for a show like Top Gear to lend their likeness to that, rather than build their own game.

Also by all accounts the Grand Tour game is a massive pile of crap, and why would most companies even invest in such things because unless you got the talent, resources, and framework, you're gonna have a super hard time making something that will turn a profit.

Selling TGT or TG to a proving racing game franchise like Forza, though, that's profit for minimum effort, and near impossible to ruin goodwill with gamers, especially if it's a free update in the case of the Top Gear challenges in FH4.

[The Lusophone]

The Grand Tour game was more an interactive TV show than an actual game.

[King Ellis]

Man, I had totally forgotten that game actually already came out when I made my reply.

Also, apparently GamesMaster is going to be a thing again on E4 and YouTube? It feels like we're even further away from the point of needing that than we were then when people would clamour for such a thing or equivalent in the late 00's/early 10's. I've heard it said before it was always a kind of 'legitimacy' thing that gamers wanted to be seen as equals to TV/movies by having coverage on the telly, I know there were things early the early 00's on Channel 4 and various cable networks (Bits, When Games Attack, that one with Iain Lee, the one with Violet Berlin etc etc) but with the advent of the internet it had outgrown it's usefulness as a source of news. I suppose a TV show about games these days could be more of a video essay type thing, exploring things like the ethics of DLC/loot boxes or 'crunch time'.

I suppose GamesMaster specifically will lean more into the whole challenge aspect but is that not maybe superseded by the likes of Twitch nowadays?

[Bobfoc]

Robert Florence is presenting, which is a good choice. He's very knowledgeable about games. Still, it's hard to see where such a show fits in today's entertainment landscape. As you said, Twitch and Youtube already has a lot of the sort of content Games Master used to provide. It could be an entertaining programme, but I'm not convinced it will draw a big enough audience to last in the long term.

Charlie Brooker has done a couple of one-off programmes about games, and I think those were more in line with the sort of things I'd be interested to see on television. I wish he wasn't so busy with Black Mirror these days because I miss his satirical shows.

[FLiam]

Apparently ePES Football or whatever it’s called now landed today and it’s apparently a complete train wreck. 

Going to download later to check it out.

[Baddar]

My beloved PES is dead.

It became obvious when cross play with mobile was announced. It's basically a mobile game now ported elsewhere.

[Bobfoc]

It seems they've been making steps towards turning it into an online casino with a football game attached for some time now. Sports games without features designed to squeeze money out of people with addictive personalities are becoming increasingly rare. Actually, that goes for games in general, not just sport-based ones.

[DavidMarrio]

Konami have been focusing on the Pachinko market for ages. I'm not surprised PES is basically dead now. 

I'm just gutted that they clearly do not give a shit, they said the whole oh we're not making a new game, going to do a new proper one in two years and promising a new engine for the release and then this pile of crap is what they've released instead. 

Just sad to see what happened to one of the best sporting game franchises 

[Krabby]

58 minutes ago, DavidMarrio said:

Konami have been focusing on the Pachinko market for ages. I'm not surprised PES is basically dead now. 

I'm just gutted that they clearly do not give a shit, they said the whole oh we're not making a new game, going to do a new proper one in two years and promising a new engine for the release and then this pile of crap is what they've released instead. 

Just sad to see what happened to one of the best sporting game franchises 

Konami is content to sit on some really good franchises and put no effort into them anymore. They haven't done anything with my beloved Suikoden, those jerks!

[gunnar hendershow]

I went to a casino a couple weeks ago and I noticed multiple machines were made by Konami. They've decided to sit back and become a gambling company and presumably will just keep a division up for pushing out legacy video game franchises to keep their business slightly diversified. You know, in the event at some point the relaxation around gambling laws in most of the world has a rollback.

[Bobfoc]

1 hour ago, Krabby said:

Konami is content to sit on some really good franchises and put no effort into them anymore. They haven't done anything with my beloved Suikoden, those jerks!

You might be interested in Eiyuden Chronicle, which is a spiritual successor to Suikoden that's being made by some of its former developers. It has a provisional 2023 release, but it's still something.

Also, Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night was more or less Castlevania in all but name. While Konami might be leaving its franchises to rot, there's at least a market for other developers to put together similar sorts of games.

[Baddar]

Here's the crowd in eFootball, a next gen game made for 2022 remember.

[Bobfoc]

They're all shielding their eyes from the horrors they're witnessing.

[The Lusophone]

9 hours ago, Krabby said:

Konami is content to sit on some really good franchises and put no effort into them anymore. They haven't done anything with my beloved Suikoden, those jerks!

They should just give the rights to the video games of their franchises to Capcom tbh.

[Colly]

I'd love to see Capcom PES. Or better yet Marvel v Capcom PES.