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Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs are the favorites to win next year's Super Bowl, heading into an offseason that could shake up the NFL.

The Chiefs are 6-1 to win Super Bowl LV at Caesars Sportsbook, followed by the Baltimore Ravens at 7-1 and the San Francisco 49ers at 8-1.

Mahomes rallied the Chiefs past the 49ers on Sunday to win Super Bowl LIV 31-20.

The New Orleans Saints (11-1) and the New England Patriots (14-1) are among the next tier of Super Bowl LV contenders at Caesars, but both teams have veteran quarterbacks with decisions to make.

The Saints' Drew Brees and the Patriots' Tom Brady will become free agents in March. Brees has said he would play only for the Saints next season, but he also is considering retiring. Brady has left things more open and hasn't ruled out leaving New England, where he won six Super Bowls. During Sunday's Super Bowl, however, Brady said in a Hulu commercial, "I'm not going anywhere," referencing plans for his 21st NFL season. ESPN's Adam Schefter reported this week that the Las Vegas Raiders have interest in pursuing Brady if he becomes a free agent.

The Raiders, who are set for their inaugural season in Las Vegas, are 30-1 to win next year's Super Bowl.

The Pittsburgh Steelers are 15-1, followed by the Green Bay Packers and Dallas Cowboys, who are each 18-1. The Philadelphia Eagles, Los Angeles Rams and Cleveland Browns are each 25-1.

The Cincinnati Bengals and Washington Redskins are the biggest long shots on the board, listed at 200-1 at Caesars Sportsbook. The Miami Dolphins, New York Giants, Detroit Lions and Carolina Panthers are each 100-1.

Super Bowl LV will be held Feb. 7, 2021, at Raymond James Stadium in Tampa, Florida.

Odds to win Super Bowl LV (via Caesars Sportsbook):

  • Chiefs 6-1
  • Ravens 7-1
  • 49ers 8-1
  • Saints 11-1
  • Patriots 14-1
  • Steelers 15-1
  • Packers 18-1
  • Cowboys 18-1
  • Seahawks 22-1
  • Eagles 25-1
  • Rams 25-1
  • Browns 25-1
  • Vikings 25-1
  • Chargers 30-1
  • Raiders 30-1
  • Texans 30-1
  • Titans 30-1
  • Bills 30-1
  • Bears 30-1
  • Colts 35-1
  • Falcons 40-1
  • Buccaneers 50-1
  • Cardinals 60-1
  • Jets 60-1
  • Jaguars 75-1
  • Broncos 75-1
  • Dolphins 100-1
  • Giants 100-1
  • Lions 100-1
  • Panthers 100-1
  • Redskins 200-1
  • Bengals 200-1
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If Brady actually does sign with the Chargers or Raiders, I think that team vs Chiefs is the Thursday night opener next year.

If not, they host the Pats next year and that’s an easy big matchup to start the year with.

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32 minutes ago, Lineker said:
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Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs are the favorites to win next year's Super Bowl, heading into an offseason that could shake up the NFL.

The Chiefs are 6-1 to win Super Bowl LV at Caesars Sportsbook, followed by the Baltimore Ravens at 7-1 and the San Francisco 49ers at 8-1.

Mahomes rallied the Chiefs past the 49ers on Sunday to win Super Bowl LIV 31-20.

The New Orleans Saints (11-1) and the New England Patriots (14-1) are among the next tier of Super Bowl LV contenders at Caesars, but both teams have veteran quarterbacks with decisions to make.

The Saints' Drew Brees and the Patriots' Tom Brady will become free agents in March. Brees has said he would play only for the Saints next season, but he also is considering retiring. Brady has left things more open and hasn't ruled out leaving New England, where he won six Super Bowls. During Sunday's Super Bowl, however, Brady said in a Hulu commercial, "I'm not going anywhere," referencing plans for his 21st NFL season. ESPN's Adam Schefter reported this week that the Las Vegas Raiders have interest in pursuing Brady if he becomes a free agent.

The Raiders, who are set for their inaugural season in Las Vegas, are 30-1 to win next year's Super Bowl.

The Pittsburgh Steelers are 15-1, followed by the Green Bay Packers and Dallas Cowboys, who are each 18-1. The Philadelphia Eagles, Los Angeles Rams and Cleveland Browns are each 25-1.

The Cincinnati Bengals and Washington Redskins are the biggest long shots on the board, listed at 200-1 at Caesars Sportsbook. The Miami Dolphins, New York Giants, Detroit Lions and Carolina Panthers are each 100-1.

Super Bowl LV will be held Feb. 7, 2021, at Raymond James Stadium in Tampa, Florida.

Odds to win Super Bowl LV (via Caesars Sportsbook):

  • Chiefs 6-1
  • Ravens 7-1
  • 49ers 8-1
  • Saints 11-1
  • Patriots 14-1
  • Steelers 15-1
  • Packers 18-1
  • Cowboys 18-1
  • Seahawks 22-1
  • Eagles 25-1
  • Rams 25-1
  • Browns 25-1
  • Vikings 25-1
  • Chargers 30-1
  • Raiders 30-1
  • Texans 30-1
  • Titans 30-1
  • Bills 30-1
  • Bears 30-1
  • Colts 35-1
  • Falcons 40-1
  • Buccaneers 50-1
  • Cardinals 60-1
  • Jets 60-1
  • Jaguars 75-1
  • Broncos 75-1
  • Dolphins 100-1
  • Giants 100-1
  • Lions 100-1
  • Panthers 100-1
  • Redskins 200-1
  • Bengals 200-1

Who did those odds? Crackhead Jimmy? The Cowboys and Browns both having better odds than the Texans and Titans? lmao! 

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7 hours ago, Lineker said:
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Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs are the favorites to win next year's Super Bowl, heading into an offseason that could shake up the NFL.

The Chiefs are 6-1 to win Super Bowl LV at Caesars Sportsbook, followed by the Baltimore Ravens at 7-1 and the San Francisco 49ers at 8-1.

Mahomes rallied the Chiefs past the 49ers on Sunday to win Super Bowl LIV 31-20.

The New Orleans Saints (11-1) and the New England Patriots (14-1) are among the next tier of Super Bowl LV contenders at Caesars, but both teams have veteran quarterbacks with decisions to make.

The Saints' Drew Brees and the Patriots' Tom Brady will become free agents in March. Brees has said he would play only for the Saints next season, but he also is considering retiring. Brady has left things more open and hasn't ruled out leaving New England, where he won six Super Bowls. During Sunday's Super Bowl, however, Brady said in a Hulu commercial, "I'm not going anywhere," referencing plans for his 21st NFL season. ESPN's Adam Schefter reported this week that the Las Vegas Raiders have interest in pursuing Brady if he becomes a free agent.

The Raiders, who are set for their inaugural season in Las Vegas, are 30-1 to win next year's Super Bowl.

The Pittsburgh Steelers are 15-1, followed by the Green Bay Packers and Dallas Cowboys, who are each 18-1. The Philadelphia Eagles, Los Angeles Rams and Cleveland Browns are each 25-1.

The Cincinnati Bengals and Washington Redskins are the biggest long shots on the board, listed at 200-1 at Caesars Sportsbook. The Miami Dolphins, New York Giants, Detroit Lions and Carolina Panthers are each 100-1.

Super Bowl LV will be held Feb. 7, 2021, at Raymond James Stadium in Tampa, Florida.

Odds to win Super Bowl LV (via Caesars Sportsbook):

  • Chiefs 6-1
  • Ravens 7-1
  • 49ers 8-1
  • Saints 11-1
  • Patriots 14-1
  • Steelers 15-1
  • Packers 18-1
  • Cowboys 18-1
  • Seahawks 22-1
  • Eagles 25-1
  • Rams 25-1
  • Browns 25-1
  • Vikings 25-1
  • Chargers 30-1
  • Raiders 30-1
  • Texans 30-1
  • Titans 30-1
  • Bills 30-1
  • Bears 30-1
  • Colts 35-1
  • Falcons 40-1
  • Buccaneers 50-1
  • Cardinals 60-1
  • Jets 60-1
  • Jaguars 75-1
  • Broncos 75-1
  • Dolphins 100-1
  • Giants 100-1
  • Lions 100-1
  • Panthers 100-1
  • Redskins 200-1
  • Bengals 200-1

Seahawks at 22-1 and Vikings at 30-1 both feel like good bets since I'd think each of them has better odds of winning than that, especially Minnesota with Kubiak now at OC.

No good longshot picks except maybe the Panthers.

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1 hour ago, Meacon say “Hi People!” said:

It’s so ridiculously hard to tell right now considering in this league you can turn a loser into a contender in one offseason. All depends on how free agency and less so the draft shake out.

It's one of those reasons I always feel like Lions fans are dumb. Every single year the new schedule comes out and it's the whole "oh my god our schedule is brutal we're gonna lose every game". You don't know that right now, hell even after free agency and the draft you really can't tell due to injuries/suspension/under performance. 

I mean we will lose games but it's not usually because the schedule is tough.

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I mean I'm not optimistic the Giants can completely turn everything around in a year with all the holes they have, especially since most of the areas they're deficient in have very weak free agent classes...but still.  Get a tackle at #4, hope Jones cures his fumbling problems, and just hope to hell that you can get a few playmakers on defense.

The only certainty about the schedule is that they'll be sent to Dallas week one just like they always are.

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The only team I would be surprised to see improve next season in one of the two at the bottom of the odds for the next Super Bowl. The Redskins I don't expect to see be worth a damn as long as Dan Snyder is their owner, and the Giants should (keyword: should) be somewhat better next season, though still no threat to win the division. The Bengals might need a couple of drafts to turn things around.

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Why are the Giants no threat to win the division? The NFC East was garbage. If they address their issues Busch stated, they don’t have to take a huge leap to win the East. Let’s not act like they’re competing against Minnesota or Green Bay. They’re facing Philly and Dallas.

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Yeah, the G-Mennnnnn, definitely have a shot at that division

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I obviously missed the many, many acquisitions that were made in the last 17 hours which have turned the Steelers into AFC Championship contenders. Ben isn't going to make us that much better.

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43 minutes ago, Meacon say “Hi People!” said:

Why are the Giants no threat to win the division? The NFC East was garbage. If they address their issues Busch stated, they don’t have to take a huge leap to win the East. Let’s not act like they’re competing against Minnesota or Green Bay. They’re facing Philly and Dallas.

It depends on how the draft and free agent signings go. But both the Cowboys and Giants should be better. I just don't see the Giants being better than both Dallas and Philadelphia. One, maybe, but not both. 

Personally, I'm hoping that Dallas wins the division, Giants the Wild Card, Titans make the playoffs again, and something happens so that the Packers don't even make the playoffs.

 

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Mahomes had the lowest QBR of any Super Bowl winning QB ever.  Really feel like Damien Williams had a case for MVP but a RB hasn't won it in 20 years.  Nowadays for a RB to get it you pretty much need the QB to be actively bad and have the RB carry the team to the win.

When it's a late 4th quarter game-winning drive, it pretty much guarantees the QB the MVP unless there's an incredible catch like Santonio.

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1 hour ago, Chris2K said:

I obviously missed the many, many acquisitions that were made in the last 17 hours which have turned the Steelers into AFC Championship contenders. Ben isn't going to make us that much better.

Their defense is a prime regression candidate too given how much of their success rested on generating turnovers and sacks, two things that are hard to maintain year-to-year.

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1 hour ago, Chris2K said:

I obviously missed the many, many acquisitions that were made in the last 17 hours which have turned the Steelers into AFC Championship contenders. Ben isn't going to make us better.

FTFY

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33 minutes ago, B-li Manning said:

Mahomes had the lowest QBR of any Super Bowl winning QB ever.  Really feel like Damien Williams had a case for MVP but a RB hasn't won it in 20 years.  Nowadays for a RB to get it you pretty much need the QB to be actively bad and have the RB carry the team to the win.

When it's a late 4th quarter game-winning drive, it pretty much guarantees the QB the MVP unless there's an incredible catch like Santonio.

Chris Jones was probably the most deserving KC player if we want to go with who should have won MVP. But, yeah, heroic 4th quarter drive all but guarantees it goes to the QB.

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44 minutes ago, B-li Manning said:

Mahomes had the lowest QBR of any Super Bowl winning QB ever. 

That's not true at all. I assume you meant of any QB who won MVP? Brady had a worse rating last year and Roethlisberger had a QB rating of 22.6 in at Super Bowl XL!

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Yeah I meant MVP.

Of course for years I heard people be like "Eli never should've won MVP of SB42!" and I doubt Mahomes will hear even 10% of that criticism.  But yeah, when in doubt the game-winning drive goes to the QB.

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3 hours ago, B-li Manning said:

Yeah I meant MVP.

Of course for years I heard people be like "Eli never should've won MVP of SB42!" and I doubt Mahomes will hear even 10% of that criticism.  But yeah, when in doubt the game-winning drive goes to the QB.

Yeah I love Eli but Justin Tuck should have won SB42 MVP. That d-line was absolutely relentless that day. Osi, Strahan and Tuck was just unfair!

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Eli’s first MVP isnt even the least deserved MVP amongst Mannings. In Super Bowl 41, Manning went 25/38 for 247 yards 1 td 1 int and a lost fumble. 10 of his completions were dumpoffs to Addai and his TD was a busted coverage for a 53 yard Reggie Wayne TD.

Hell, the NFL posted a video of the “top play from every Super Bowl” and all of them showed the winning team’s most impactful play...except for SB41 where they showed Hester’s game-opening kick return TD.  It’s the only play anyone remembers from that game.

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Mahomes has come out saying that Alex Smith was vital to the Chiefs getting the win as he helped set the culture before his departure of belief the Chiefs could get that far and manage that feat. 

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