Official 2012/13 Premier League thread

[GoN_]

Sorry, GoN, are you saying that winning two league titles in three years isn't much of an achievement?

With a team that went to back to back champions league finals before him, and in no man's land? Not that much... :/

[therockbox]

But they lost both finals and finished fifth in the league the season before he took over. We all know being a good cup team is a completely different proposition to being consistent in the league.

[Nerf]

Oh, also, United's title win in 08-09 shouldn't count because of that run of games we had in January costing us the title. Incidentally, "us" being a Rafa team with only Gerrard, Carragher and Hyypia left from the previous regime. Also arguably the best Liverpool squad of the Premier League era.

The argument is stupid. Accolades are accolades and Rafa is a good manager.

[Matt]

Guys, City's title win last year shouldn't count because United fucked up that one game.

Noone is saying it doesn't count, just that it wasn't the amazing achievement it's been made out to be. He inherited the second best team in Europe (back to back champs league finals) and won a weakened league twice (once due to Madrid throwing it away spectacularly).

[therockbox]

Guys, City's title win last year shouldn't count because United fucked up that one game.

He inherited the second best team in Europe (back to back champs league finals)

The fifth best team in Spain.

[GoN_]

Guys, City's title win last year shouldn't count because United fucked up that one game.

Noone is saying it doesn't count, just that it wasn't the amazing achievement it's been made out to be. He inherited the second best team in Europe (back to back champs league finals) and won a weakened league twice (once due to Madrid throwing it away spectacularly).

Since it seems I'm not being clear enough, this is pretty much what I was saying.

He also finished 5^th in between those championship wins.

But yeah, being a good cup team is not the same as being a good league team. One could make that point about... Oh forget it, no need to go there.

[therockbox]

You were completely clear in what you said.

You're just wrong.

[GoN_]

Ok then, carry on...

Edit: Really, now that I look at it, most of my posts here, for some time, have been about either defending or criticizing someone's managerial talents. Odd choice of theme for me.

[Colly]

So anyway, Sven to Chelsea?

[GoN_]

I wouldn't count Mourinho off for a return. The guy is clearly tired of his problems with most of the team and the press, and wants to leave Madrid. He wants to go back to England so...

[9 to 5]

They should get Steve Kean. See how you enjoy it.

[Baddar]

Jose is coming to United to be Fergie's number 2!

Mike Phelan will go on to manage Blackburn to keep the bald managers trend going.

[Hobo]

Chelsea should hire Ruud Guilit again.

[GoN_]

If they fail to get Mourinho, Klopp would probably be their best option.

[Matt]

Guys, City's title win last year shouldn't count because United fucked up that one game.

He inherited the second best team in Europe (back to back champs league finals)

The fifth best team in Spain.

I'm sure that's what you said about Liverpool in 2005.

He inherited a very good Valencia team and won La Liga at probably the weakest it's been for decades. Fair play it's still an achievement but it's not anywhere near as mission impossible as "he won La Liga with a team that wasn't Barcelona or real Madrid" implies.

[Matt]

Oh and chelsea should hire Warnock, itd be spectacular;: David Luiz playing left back, Oscar playing wide left, Lampard wide right, Hazard sold because "we couldn't find a place in the team for him realleh" and Michael Brown inexplicably keeping Mata out of the team.

[GoN_]

David Luiz played left-back for Benfica, for almost a whole season.

While it wasn't good at all, it's not like it would be something new for him, like being a defensive midfielder.

[therockbox]

Guys, City's title win last year shouldn't count because United fucked up that one game.

He inherited the second best team in Europe (back to back champs league finals)

The fifth best team in Spain.

I'm sure that's what you said about Liverpool in 2005.

Well, at least we actually won the thing.

Are Bradford one of the best sides in the country because they reached a cup final, beating a number of Premier League clubs on the way?

[Baddar]

This argument is pretty fucking stupid.

[Matt]

Guys, City's title win last year shouldn't count because United fucked up that one game.

He inherited the second best team in Europe (back to back champs league finals)

The fifth best team in Spain.

I'm sure that's what you said about Liverpool in 2005.

Well, at least we actually won the thing.

Are Bradford one of the best sides in the country because they reached a cup final, beating a number of Premier League clubs on the way?

Except Bradford haven't done that in consecutive seasons. You're being awfully silly if you really think that valencia side was anything other than one of the best sides in Europe. :/