The Barclays Premier League thread 2015/2016

[Baddar]

Well if Gabriel's ban stands for "violent conduct", Arsenal have been very hard done by.

I suspect his will get rescinded, and Costa will escape punishment too.

[stokeriño]

Yes, if violent conduct was used as the reason (has that been explicitly said anywhere?), then that is certainly quite a bit of nonsense.

[The Lusophone]

REGULATIONS FOR FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION APPEALS

COMMENCEMENT OF APPEAL

1.1 An appeal shall be commenced by lodging a notice of appeal (“the Notice of Appeal”) with The Association.

1.2 The Notice of Appeal shall be lodged within 14 days of the date of notifi cation of the decision appealed against. In the case of an appeal from a decision of a Regulatory Commission, the date of notifi cation of the decision shall be the date of the written decision or, if applicable, the date of the written reasons for the decision. In relation to any other decision, the relevant date shall be the date on which it was fi rst announced.

1.3 The Notice of Appeal must: (1) identify the specifi c decision(s) being appealed; (2) set out the ground(s) of appeal and the reasons why it would be substantially unfair not to alter the original decision; (3) set out a statement of the facts upon which the appeal is based; (4) save for where the Appellant is The Football Association, in which case no deposit will be payable, be accompanied by any deposit prescribed by the relevant Rules of The Association or Regulations. Where an appeal is lodged by fax or email or other electronic means, the deposit must be received not later than the third day following the day of despatch of the fax, email or electronic notifi cation (including both the day of despatch and receipt); (5) where appropriate, apply for leave to present new evidence under 2.1 below.

1.4 The grounds of appeal available to The Association, shall be that the body whose decision is appealed against: (1) misinterpreted or failed to comply with the rules or regulations relevant to its decision; and/or (2) came to a decision to which no reasonable such body could have come and/or (3) imposed a penalty, award, order or sanction that was so unduly lenient as to be unreasonable

1.5 The grounds of appeal available to Participants shall be that the body whose decision is appealed against : (1) failed to give the appellant a fair hearing and/or (2) misinterpreted or failed to comply with the rules or regulations relevant to its decision; and/or (3) came to a decision to which no reasonable such body could have come and/or (4) imposed a penalty, award, order or sanction that was excessive Where an appeal is brought against a decision of a Regulatory Commission by FIFA, UKAD or WADA pursuant to the Doping Regulations, any and all of the appeal grounds set out at Regulations 1.4 and 1.5 above may be relied upon. 1.6 Once an appeal has been commenced, it shall not be withdrawn except by leave of the Appeal Board, with such order for costs as the Appeal Board may consider appropriate.

APPEAL PROCEEDINGS

2.1 An Appeal Board shall proceed as set out below.

2.2 Reference to a party or parties means: (1) the appellant (the “Appellant”); and (2) the respondent (the “Respondent”), which shall be either the Participant and/ or The Association in the case of an appeal against a decision of the Regulatory Commission, or the Affi liated Association or Competition whose decision is appealed against (the “Respondent”).

2.3 The Association, whether acting as Appellant or Respondent, shall nominate an individual or individuals to represent it before the Appeal Board.

2.4 The Respondent shall serve a written reply to the Notice of Appeal (the “Reply”) on an Appellant and the Appeal Board within 21 days of the lodging of the Notice of Appeal. Where appropriate, the Reply must include any application for leave to present new evidence under 2.6 below.

2.5 The parties shall be entitled to make oral submissions to the Appeal Board but an appeal shall be by way of a review on documents only, without oral evidence, except where the Appeal Board gives leave to present new evidence under 2.6 below. Appeal Board proceedings shall be conducted how, when and where the Appeal Board considers appropriate. Reasonable notice shall be given by the Appeal Board of the date, time and venue of the appeal. An Appeal Board shall not be bound by any enactment or rule of law relating to the admissibility of evidence in proceedings before a court of law. An Appeal Board shall proceed as follows

2.6 The Appeal Board shall hear new evidence only where it has given leave that it may be presented. An application for leave to present new evidence must be made in the Notice of Appeal or the Reply, setting out the nature and the relevance of the new evidence, and why it was not presented at the original hearing. Save in exceptional circumstances, the Appeal Board shall not grant leave to present new evidence unless satisfi ed with the reason given as to why it was not, or could not have been, presented at the original hearing and that such evidence is relevant. The Appeal Board’s decision shall be fi nal.

2.7 The chairman of an Appeal Board may upon the application of a party or otherwise, give any instructions considered necessary for the proper conduct of the proceedings, including but not limited to: (1) extending or abridging any time limit; (2) amending or dispensing with any procedural steps set out in these Regulations; (3) instructing that a transcript be made of the proceedings; (4) ordering parties to attend a preliminary hearing; (5) ordering a party to provide written submissions.The decision of the chairman of the Appeal Board shall be fi nal.

2.8 The Appeal Board may adjourn a hearing for such period and upon such terms (including an order as to costs) as it considers appropriate.

2.9 The Appellant shall prepare a set of documents which shall be provided to the Appeal Board and Respondent at least seven days before the hearing and which shall comprise the following (or their equivalent): (1) the Charge; (2) the Answer; (3) any documents or other evidence referred to at the original hearing relevant to the appeal; (4) any transcript of the original hearing; (5) the notifi cation of decision appealed against and where they have been given the reasons for the decision; (6) any new evidence; (7) The Notice of Appeal; (8) The Reply. Where the Regulatory Commission or other body appealed against has not stated the reasons for its decision, either (i) the Appellant shall request written reasons from that body which shall be provided to the Appeal Board; or (ii) the Appeal Board shall require that a member of the body that made the decision shall attend (in which case, questions may be put by the Appeal Board at a hearing to satisfy itself as to the reasons for the decision. Cross-examination by the Appellant or Respondent shall not be permitted. Representations may be made by the parties to the Appeal Board who may then put questions to the member of the body that made the decision).

2.10 Appeal hearings shall be conducted how, when and where the Appeal Board considers appropriate. Reasonable notice shall be given by the Appeal Board of the date, time and venue of the appeal. Where an application to present new evidence has been made, the party making the application shall address the Appeal Board in support of the application and the other party may respond; the Appeal Board shall then determine whether or not it will receive the new evidence. The following procedures shall be followed at an appeal hearing unless the Appeal Board thinks it appropriate to amend them: (1) The Appellant to address the Appeal Board, summarising its case; (2) Any new evidence to be presented by the Appellant; (3) The Respondent to address the Appeal Board, summarising its case; (4) Any new evidence to be presented by the Respondent; (5) Each party to be able to put questions to any witness giving new evidence; (6) The Appeal Board may put questions to the parties and any witness giving new evidence at any stage; (7) The Respondent to make closing submissions; (8) The Appellant to make closing submissions.

2.11 The Appeal Board shall proceed in the absence of any party, unless it is satisfi ed that there are reasonable grounds for the failure of the party to attend, and shall do so in such manner as it considers appropriate.

2.12 The Appeal Board may, in the event of a party failing to comply with an order, requirement or instruction of the Appeal Board, take any action it considers appropriate, including an award of costs against the off ending party.

APPEAL BOARD DECISIONS

3.1 A decision, order, requirement or instruction of the Appeal Board shall (save where to be made under the Rules of The Association by the chairman of the Appeal Board alone) be determined by a majority. Each member of the Appeal Board shall have one vote, save that the chairman shall have a second and casting vote in the event of deadlock.

3.2 The Appeal Board shall announce its decision to the parties as soon as practicable in such a manner as it considers appropriate; and unless it directs otherwise, its decision shall come into eff ect immediately.

3.3 The Appeal Board shall have power to: (1) allow or dismiss the appeal; (2) exercise any power which the body against whose decision the appeal was made could have exercised, whether the eff ect is to increase or decrease any penalty, award, order or sanction originally imposed; (3) remit the matter for re-hearing; (4) order that any deposit be forfeited or returned as it considers appropriate; (5) make such further or other order as it considers appropriate, generally or for the purpose of giving eff ect to its decision. (6) Order that any costs, or part thereof, incurred by the Appeal Board be paid by either party or be shared by both parties in a manner determined by the Appeal Board.

3.4 Decisions of the Appeal Board shall be final and binding and there shall be no right of further challenge, except in relation to appeals to CAS brought by FIFA or WADA pursuant to the Doping Regulations.

OTHER COSTS

3.5 Any costs incurred in bringing, or responding to, an appeal shall normally be borne by the party incurring the costs. In exceptional circumstances the Appeal Board may order one party to pay some or all of the other party’s costs. Such costs will not include any legal costs. Any applications for such costs must be made at the Appeal Board and must include details of the exceptional circumstances.

WRITTEN DECISION

3.6 As soon as practicable after the hearing, the Appeal Board shall publish a written statement of its decision, which shall state: (1) the names of the parties, the decision(s) appealed against and the grounds of appeal; (2) whether or not the appeal is allowed; and (3) the order(s) of the Appeal Board. The written statement shall be signed and dated by the chairman of the Appeal Board and be the conclusive record of the decision.

3.7 The Appeal Board shall, upon the request of the Appellant or the Respondent (such request to be received at The Association within three days of the date of the announcement of the decision), give written reasons for the decision.

[Szumi]

That kind of copy and paste job is going to make Lineker very jealous

[The Lusophone]

pfft. as if it were that simple. Had to remove the page number and format it properly because this forum software blows.

[TCO]

What's funny about Martial is it was easy for people to say "what a fucking waste of money lol" before he'd kicked a ball for us, yet when he makes a great start it's suddenly foolish of people to claim that he won't be.

Again, looooong way for the guy to go, but I think it should work both ways. Don't immediately write him off then call hyperbole on others when he makes a very good first impression. 

Nobody wrote him off though. Everyone said that £36mil potentially rising to £50ml was a ridiculous figure to be paying for a 19 year old who's barely scratched 50 games and has a very average goalscoring record. That is still very much true and in the same sense those same people aren't jumping to say he's worth it after an impressive start.

He's talented, there's no doubt about that and he's done very well so far. But United have severely overpaid for him, they paid the roughly the same amount of money Man City did for Aguero and more than Chelsea paid for Diego Costa, both of whom are proven at the highest level and in their physical peak.

[Colly]

Yes, if violent conduct was used as the reason (has that been explicitly said anywhere?), then that is certainly quite a bit of nonsense.

 

• serious foul play
• violent conduct
• spitting at an opponent or any other person
• denying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity by deliberately handling the ball (this does not apply to a goalkeeper within his own penalty area)
• denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity to an opponent moving towards the player's goal by an offence punishable by a free kick or a penalty kick
• using offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or gestures
• receiving a second caution in the same match

What else could it be, unless the heel flick is an abusive gesture on Mike Dean's planet?

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[Hobo]

What's funny about Martial is it was easy for people to say "what a fucking waste of money lol" before he'd kicked a ball for us, yet when he makes a great start it's suddenly foolish of people to claim that he won't be.

Again, looooong way for the guy to go, but I think it should work both ways. Don't immediately write him off then call hyperbole on others when he makes a very good first impression. 

Nobody wrote him off though. Everyone said that £36mil potentially rising to £50ml was a ridiculous figure to be paying for a 19 year old who's barely scratched 50 games and has a very average goalscoring record. That is still very much true and in the same sense those same people aren't jumping to say he's worth it after an impressive start.

He's talented, there's no doubt about that and he's done very well so far. But United have severely overpaid for him, they paid the roughly the same amount of money Man City did for Aguero and more than Chelsea paid for Diego Costa, both of whom are proven at the highest level and in their physical peak.

Young players can be a bit unpredictable. What is more important for United will be how Martial copes with having a bad game or two.

[Baddar]

Costa charged with violent conduct. Told you!

[stokeriño]

Costa, Gabriel, Arsenal and Chelsea have all been charged by the FA, for...

1. Costa: violent conduct

2. Gabriel: improper conduct following his dismissal

3. Arsenal and Chelsea: failing to control their players

Cazorla has also been warned for his behaviour following his dismissal

If they could be super-quick banning Costa so that one of his games is the COC match he wouldn't play in anyway, that'd be nice.  

[Colly]

This does deprive us of the 12 seconds that we would have seen Costa and Mitrovic on the same pitch at the same time.

[Gazz]

It'd probably be like when two atoms of matter try to occupy the same space and swallows the universe.

[The Lusophone]

Sir Alex reckons he only ever had four world class players in all his years at Old Trafford, those being Scholes, Giggs, Cantona and Ronaldo.

I guess he's still on the outs with Roy Keane...

[Benji]

U wot?

It's amazing that even when retired Fergie can come out with dumb shit like that.

[The Lusophone]

Promotes his book, I suppose.

[Matt]

Beckham surely should be on that list, RVN too. I'd argue more so than Scholes.

[The Lusophone]

RVN, Beckham, Schemichael, Keane. Hughes and Kanchelskis on their day as well.

Also was there any strike partnership better than Cole and Yorke?

[MDK]

Are we forgetting Gary Neville?

[Benji]

He also had at least two key World Cup winners in his team with Barthez and Blanc, but sure Fergie, only four world class players. Such a twat >_>

Edited September 22, 2015 by Benji

[Gazz]

Kleberson?