Premier League 2022/23

[Colly]

You're looking for conspiracies whilst forgetting what's staring you in the face. Lee Mason is a fuckwit.

[DavidMarrio]

Most of the refs are from Greater Manchester too. Defo thought "be arsed drawing the line lol" 

I'm fully expecting the derby to be the most boring 0-0 or 1-0 to Everton. Probably the least confident I've been going into a derby for a long time. 

[The Lusophone]

45 minutes ago, DavidMarrio said:

Most of the refs are from Greater Manchester too.

Not entirely - though the geographic spread is freaking woeful and worse than it was 20 years ago.

Here's the select group plus the two retired refs who also do VAR. These are the only VAR officials for the Premier League:

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Referee	FA Registered to	Place of birth/Residence
Stuart Atwell	Birmingham	Nuneaton, Warwickshire
Peter Bankes	Liverpool	Lancashire/The Wirral
Tom Bramall	Sheffield & Hallamshire	Sheffield
John Brooks	Leicestershire & Rutland	Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire
David Coote	Nottinghamshire	Nottingham
Darren England	Sheffield & Hallamshire	Doncaster, South Yorkshire
Jarred Gillett	Liverpool	Australia
Tony Harrington	Durham	Cleveland, North Yorkshire
Simon Hooper	Wiltshire	Swindon
Rob Jones	Cheshire	Merseyside
Chris Kavanagh	Manchester	Ashton-under-Lyne, Greater Manchester
Andy Madley	West Riding of Yorkshire	Huddersfield, West Yorkshire
Andre Marriner	Birmingham	Birmingham
Michael Oliver	Durham	Ashington, Northumberland
Craig Pawson	Sheffield & Hallamshire	Sheffield, South Yorkshire
Michael Salisbury	Lancashire	Lancashire
Graham Scott	Berks & Bucks	Oxford
Anthony Taylor	Cheshire	Wythenshawe, Greater Manchester
Paul Tierney	Lancashire	Wigan, Lancashire
Mike Dean	Cheshire	The Wirral
Lee Mason	Lancashire	Bolton, Lancashire

It's pretty northern, with more in the north west than the north east. You see the same thing if you look at match officials qualified for games at EFL and above level:

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Region	Select Group Refs	Total Match Officials
North West	7	23
Yorkshire & Humber	4	10
North East	2	12
East Midlands	2	8
West Midlands:	2	6
South East	1	11
South West	1	3
East of England	0	3
London	0	2
Military FAs	0	1

It's absurd that London has produced just 2 match officials for the entire professional pyramid. But it's not entirely surprising, given how London has just 1 FA and there's like 6 in the North West, and also how ever since refereeing was professionalised it's been run by northerners and still is, so rather than the FA controlling progressing (and thus having a vested interest in seeing all areas of the country represented sort of evenly to placate their member FAs), you've got people who likely have in-grained, largely subconscious biases doing it.

[DavidMarrio]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2023/feb/13/champions-league-final-report-uefa-primary-responsibility-chaos-paris-liverpool-real-madrid

 

Putting this here as more likely to be seen and its a small victory somewhat for fans as this could easily happen to any English team. Some damning points against UEFA, The French Football Association and French authorities.

"The panel found that many Liverpool supporters’ experience of the Hillsborough disaster meant they had heightened awareness of the danger and collectively this helped to avoid a lethal disaster, but they were also vulnerable to increased trauma"

A miracle a no one died that night. 

[METALMAN]

29 minutes ago, FestiveJack said:

Not entirely - though the geographic spread is freaking woeful and worse than it was 20 years ago.

Here's the select group plus the two retired refs who also do VAR. These are the only VAR officials for the Premier League:

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Referee	FA Registered to	Place of birth/Residence
Stuart Atwell	Birmingham	Nuneaton, Warwickshire
Peter Bankes	Liverpool	Lancashire/The Wirral
Tom Bramall	Sheffield & Hallamshire	Sheffield
John Brooks	Leicestershire & Rutland	Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire
David Coote	Nottinghamshire	Nottingham
Darren England	Sheffield & Hallamshire	Doncaster, South Yorkshire
Jarred Gillett	Liverpool	Australia
Tony Harrington	Durham	Cleveland, North Yorkshire
Simon Hooper	Wiltshire	Swindon
Rob Jones	Cheshire	Merseyside
Chris Kavanagh	Manchester	Ashton-under-Lyne, Greater Manchester
Andy Madley	West Riding of Yorkshire	Huddersfield, West Yorkshire
Andre Marriner	Birmingham	Birmingham
Michael Oliver	Durham	Ashington, Northumberland
Craig Pawson	Sheffield & Hallamshire	Sheffield, South Yorkshire
Michael Salisbury	Lancashire	Lancashire
Graham Scott	Berks & Bucks	Oxford
Anthony Taylor	Cheshire	Wythenshawe, Greater Manchester
Paul Tierney	Lancashire	Wigan, Lancashire
Mike Dean	Cheshire	The Wirral
Lee Mason	Lancashire	Bolton, Lancashire

It's pretty northern, with more in the north west than the north east.

 

I dunno about that. The one Australian guy shifts the average quite a bit.

[Kyle]

In a true baptism by fire, Ellis Simms starts up top for us tonight.

[Szumi]

With our front 3 all of form, our full backs playing poor at best, and three holding midfielders in the XI, I will be shocked if we score tonight.

[The Lusophone]

58 minutes ago, METALMAN said:

I dunno about that. The one Australian guy shifts the average quite a bit.

He's registered to Liverpool FA so he's basically scouse.

[Szumi]

Everton don't have the players really to expose us on the counter and it's helping massively to regain possession after losing it, a rarity for Liverpool lately. However, final ball and chance creation remains a clear problem. It's still a lot of aimless crosses. Best chance came off Darwin Nunez accidentally hitting a great cross by mishitting a volley.

[DavidMarrio]

We've played so much better and there seems to be a lot more pace and pressure off the ball and I've felt that goals been coming despite it being right off Everton hitting the post. 

Although that said. Pickford trying to do FIFA manual goalkeeping control there helped 

 

[Szumi]

Happy to get a bit of luck for once! Thought Tarkowski's header was going into the corner. Instead, we're up seconds later. Amazing work by Salah and especially Darwin. Pickford having a howler definitely helped 

[Szumi]

Not a bad start to the second half! 

[Matt]

EDIT: Let's just sleep this one off yeah?

Edited February 15, 2023 by Kaney

[9 to 5]

Had a good evening there @Matt? 

[The Lusophone]

Someone is tilted. But at least Leeds will be playing a derby more at their level when they travel to Huddersfield next season.

[DavidMarrio]

 

 

 

[Baddar]

10 hours ago, Matt said:

Imagine being a mouth breather and still being happy about struggling to take 4 points from one of the worst performing sides in the league. Then again proper scum fans wouldn't be happy with that, only their fucking fairweather fans that only support them cos they were good in the late 90s/early 00s. Get your Norwich scarfs back out again when you drop a few points and don't make the champions league you silly cunts.

 

All Leeds aren't we. Cut me open and I'll be bleed blue, yellow and white 

The words Leeds United. A F C will follow wherever you goooo... We're in a Yorkshire Rose.... UNITED LEEDS.... UNITED LEEDS

 

 

THERE'S ONLY ONE UNITED

 

Get fucked you scum cunts (except Baddar, LL, Kats, Diarmaid, that Dang117 guy who I don't really know but seems okay, you know people who aren't a waste of oxygen)

😳

[METALMAN]

The thing that makes me feel bad for Leeds is that they have no real local rivals so continually obsess over Manchester United, whereas Man U have two or three rivalries that are far more important to them and don't really think about Leeds to the same extent.

[Colly]

23 hours ago, DavidMarrio said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/2023/feb/13/champions-league-final-report-uefa-primary-responsibility-chaos-paris-liverpool-real-madrid

 

Putting this here as more likely to be seen and its a small victory somewhat for fans as this could easily happen to any English team. Some damning points against UEFA, The French Football Association and French authorities.

"The panel found that many Liverpool supporters’ experience of the Hillsborough disaster meant they had heightened awareness of the danger and collectively this helped to avoid a lethal disaster, but they were also vulnerable to increased trauma"

A miracle a no one died that night. 

He's a good lad for a mackem. 

 

[DavidMarrio]

He's the best Liverpool captain of my lifetime. Great player but an even better human being.