2014 NFL Season

[Maxx]

In my money league someone is goin to lose by .3 this week. Ouch.

[PatDaMan]

Regardless of what happens going forward (I'm a Foles believer and always have been), I think we can put the kibosh on talk that Sanchez is any sort of long term answer in Philly, right? I'd like to see him play well, obviously, but yesterday he "was who we thought he was," so to speak.

[Maxx]

Well your entire team played like garbage, so I'm not sure it's time to cut bait on Sanchez yet. Foles wouldn't have won that game.

[DFF]

Yeah, that loss wasn't on Sanchez any more than it was on every other player plus coaching staff. Green Bay were flat out better.

[Sandars]

At least your teams can win (except Oakland)... My Panthers are so shite, that our last win was against Chicago... and we didn't even deserve that, though it did beat a Mods team...

[Sandars]

Fun (probably easy) Trivia question: Who was the last Cleveland QB to go over .500?

[Maxx]

Fun (probably easy) Trivia question: Who was the last Cleveland QB to go over .500?

Kelly Holcomb?

[munky]

Fun (probably easy) Trivia question: Who was the last Cleveland QB to go over .500?

As per wikipedia, Jake Delhomme went 2-2 in 2010.

Probably have to go back to Bernie Kosar for a proper sample size.

[Meacon Keaton]

Only Eagles fans thought Sanchez was the answer any way. You guys kept cooing over what he did in preseason, but it's always a safer bet to go with what the guy did in his actual regular season starts as a measuring stick for how good the guy is.

But yeah, the whole team stunk yesterday, not just Marky Mark.

[Hajjhowe]

I wonder if Trent is upset the Colts blew it with their pick.

[PatDaMan]

Oh I absolutely agree - The whole thing was a sunken ship yesterday, save maybe Mac and Matthews, but I'm glad the sports talk idiots (I didn't listen today) don't have any reason to keep up with the Sanchez as starter nonsense.

Foles wouldn't have won that game, either - he doesn't play DB - but I think he would've put up a bit more of a fight. Between Sanchez's missed throws and bobbled snaps, he didn't look like a QB.

[Maxx]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11892575/dwayne-gratz-misses-jacksonville-jaguars-practice-arrest

lol, Jaguar.

[Meacon Keaton]

Damn it, Dan.

[thatshortguy]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11892575/dwayne-gratz-misses-jacksonville-jaguars-practice-arrest

lol, Jaguar.

Now that's what I call a sticky situation.

[Thrilla]

AP suspended without pay for the rest of the season.

[The Buscher]

In modifying the NFL Personal Conduct Policy August 28, Commissioner Goodell established a baseline discipline of a suspension without pay for six games for certain offenses, including a first offense of assault, battery, or domestic violence. He also identified aggravating circumstances that would warrant higher levels of discipline. In his letter, Commissioner Goodell identified several aggravating circumstances present in this case:

“First, the injury was inflicted on a child who was only four years old. The difference in size and strength between you and the child is significant, and your actions clearly caused physical injury to the child. While an adult may have a number of options when confronted with abuse – to flee, to fight back, or to seek help from law enforcement – none of those options is realistically available to a four-year old child. Further, the injury inflicted on your son includes the emotional and psychological trauma to a young child who suffers criminal physical abuse at the hands of his father.

Second, the repetitive use of a switch in this instance is the functional equivalent of a weapon, particularly in the hands of someone with the strength of an accomplished professional athlete.

Third, you have shown no meaningful remorse for your conduct. When indicted, you acknowledged what you did but said that you would not ‘eliminate whooping my kids’ and defended your conduct in numerous published text messages to the child’s mother. You also said that you felt ‘very confident with my actions because I know my intent.’ These comments raise the serious concern that you do not fully appreciate the seriousness of your conduct, or even worse, that you may feel free to engage in similar conduct in the future.”

"The well-being of your children is of paramount concern,” Goodell wrote. “In the absence of speaking to you to understand your current disposition toward child discipline, we cannot be sure that this conduct will not be repeated. Moreover, we are unaware of any effort on your part to acknowledge the seriousness of your conduct and your responsibility to demonstrate a genuine commitment to change.

“In order to assess your progress going forward, I will establish periodic reviews, the first of which will be on or about April 15, 2015. At that time, I will meet with you and your representatives and the NFLPA to review the extent to which you have complied with your program of counseling and therapy and both made and lived up to an affirmative commitment to change such that this conduct will not occur again. A failure to cooperate and follow your plan will result in a lengthier suspension without pay.”

Finally, Goodell noted that any further violation by Peterson could result in "banishment from the NFL."

“It is imperative that you to avoid any incident of this kind in the future,” Goodell wrote. “Any further violation of the Personal Conduct Policy will result in additional discipline and may subject you to banishment from the NFL.”

[PatDaMan]

In modifying the NFL Personal Conduct Policy August 28, Commissioner Goodell established a baseline discipline of a suspension without pay for six games for certain offenses, including a first offense of assault, battery, or domestic violence. He also identified aggravating circumstances that would warrant higher levels of discipline. In his letter, Commissioner Goodell identified several aggravating circumstances present in this case:

“First, the injury was inflicted on a child who was only four years old. The difference in size and strength between you and the child is significant, and your actions clearly caused physical injury to the child. While an adult may have a number of options when confronted with abuse – to flee, to fight back, or to seek help from law enforcement – none of those options is realistically available to a four-year old child. Further, the injury inflicted on your son includes the emotional and psychological trauma to a young child who suffers criminal physical abuse at the hands of his father.

Second, the repetitive use of a switch in this instance is the functional equivalent of a weapon, particularly in the hands of someone with the strength of an accomplished professional athlete.

Third, you have shown no meaningful remorse for your conduct. When indicted, you acknowledged what you did but said that you would not ‘eliminate whooping my kids’ and defended your conduct in numerous published text messages to the child’s mother. You also said that you felt ‘very confident with my actions because I know my intent.’ These comments raise the serious concern that you do not fully appreciate the seriousness of your conduct, or even worse, that you may feel free to engage in similar conduct in the future.”

"The well-being of your children is of paramount concern,” Goodell wrote. “In the absence of speaking to you to understand your current disposition toward child discipline, we cannot be sure that this conduct will not be repeated. Moreover, we are unaware of any effort on your part to acknowledge the seriousness of your conduct and your responsibility to demonstrate a genuine commitment to change.

“In order to assess your progress going forward, I will establish periodic reviews, the first of which will be on or about April 15, 2015. At that time, I will meet with you and your representatives and the NFLPA to review the extent to which you have complied with your program of counseling and therapy and both made and lived up to an affirmative commitment to change such that this conduct will not occur again. A failure to cooperate and follow your plan will result in a lengthier suspension without pay.”

Finally, Goodell noted that any further violation by Peterson could result in "banishment from the NFL."

“It is imperative that you to avoid any incident of this kind in the future,” Goodell wrote. “Any further violation of the Personal Conduct Policy will result in additional discipline and may subject you to banishment from the NFL.”

That's a pretty crazy, pretty telling line on where Goodell is right now with this stuff. He's backed into a corner with the whole domestic violence thing, where if he's not a total hardass, he'll catch more flack. Rightfully so, too. I've always been the type that believes playing in the NFL (or any pro sports league), in a perfect world, should be a privilege. I'm all for second chances in life, but if you fuck up, you should be punished accordingly.

And to think, Gordon is just coming back now because he likes to smoke a little bit of weed.

Peterson has fucked up, too. He should've made himself extremely visible and made it clear that he fucked up.

Edited November 18, 2014 by PatDaMan

[Maxx]

He should have spent time in jail for blatantly violating the terms of his bail and freely admiting to it. Fuck that guy, happy if he never plays again.

(He'll be on the Cowboys at some point)

[Twist]

He will be on the Cowboys roster by opening day next year.

[PatDaMan]

He should have spent time in jail for blatantly violating the terms of his bail and freely admiting to it. Fuck that guy, happy if he never plays again.

(He'll be on the Cowboys at some point)

Yeah that's true too. Not to get too crazy into it, but the American justice system can get reeeeal weird and fucked up.