Electronic Entertainment Expo 2013 (E3)

[Summers]

I dunno. I don't know what ways they could do it. Just something I was thinking about.

[OctoberRaven]

But it's not career suicide. It's how it is for Microsoft now. It isn't even private. It's very open and public, if you can't connect to the net daily you can't use the 1.

But that's the thing though... even people who have internet connections at home won't necessarily have them up every day ever. Individual houses can and do lose internet for entire days because ISP server just forgets their house exists (I've had it happen to me several times). Not to mention people don't always have ready internet when they move. Saying "well, you're SOL then" is a callous, short-sighted way of doing business that'll bite you in the ass one way or another.

People in Microsoft don't lose their jobs over this today, they will eventually.

[apsham]

How can they check though? Sony aren't putting in any Online checks so the publishers couldn't know if I bought a game preowned and played it offline.

Tell places like EB Games/Gamestop that they're not allowed to take the games in as used? I assume something like that. It would effectively stop retail used gaming but on sites like Kijiji or Craigslist...

[Dan]

Eh, as long as I can get them from somewhere. I used rentals a lot when I first got my 360 and I'd probably be renting a lot next gen for a while so restricting rentals would put me off.

[apsham]

Ultimately - I'm sure that while the option does exist, not a lot of companies will end up buying into the idea. Sounds worse than it is.

[RPS]

How can they check though? Sony aren't putting in any Online checks so the publishers couldn't know if I bought a game preowned and played it offline.

Tell places like EB Games/Gamestop that they're not allowed to take the games in as used? I assume something like that. It would effectively stop retail used gaming but on sites like Kijiji or Craigslist...

And EG Games and Gamestop would likely just laugh in their faces.

[apsham]

How can they check though? Sony aren't putting in any Online checks so the publishers couldn't know if I bought a game preowned and played it offline.

Tell places like EB Games/Gamestop that they're not allowed to take the games in as used? I assume something like that. It would effectively stop retail used gaming but on sites like Kijiji or Craigslist...

And EG Games and Gamestop would likely just laugh in their faces.

That's not how that kind of stuff works though. The XBO itself can only be sold through certain retailers, for example. If the system is in place, the company would have to abide by the rules - and if Gamestop decides to go against that, they might lose exclusives, new copies of the game, etc.

But yeah - that's just in theory. I am sure it's in the interest of everyone that the companies just opt into used gaming like standard.

[Pizza]

They could use a Sim City type system on PS4 couldn't they? The PS4 could start the game as usual, but then you get to the main menu and bam, you can't go any further unless you connect and by an online pass.

[apsham]

That's basically what EA was doing with their online pass for multiplayer, yeah.

[RPS]

No chance in hell would

How can they check though? Sony aren't putting in any Online checks so the publishers couldn't know if I bought a game preowned and played it offline.

Tell places like EB Games/Gamestop that they're not allowed to take the games in as used? I assume something like that. It would effectively stop retail used gaming but on sites like Kijiji or Craigslist...

And EG Games and Gamestop would likely just laugh in their faces.

That's not how that kind of stuff works though. The XBO itself can only be sold through certain retailers, for example. If the system is in place, the company would have to abide by the rules - and if Gamestop decides to go against that, they might lose exclusives, new copies of the game, etc.

But yeah - that's just in theory. I am sure it's in the interest of everyone that the companies just opt into used gaming like standard.

No chance in hell. If Gamestop is selling used games, there will always be new games in their stores. A publisher would never do that, unless they were dumb. They want to stop used games sales, but if used games are being sold in stores, they want their new games in the stores as well.

[Summers]

No chance in hell would

How can they check though? Sony aren't putting in any Online checks so the publishers couldn't know if I bought a game preowned and played it offline.

Tell places like EB Games/Gamestop that they're not allowed to take the games in as used? I assume something like that. It would effectively stop retail used gaming but on sites like Kijiji or Craigslist...

And EG Games and Gamestop would likely just laugh in their faces.

That's not how that kind of stuff works though. The XBO itself can only be sold through certain retailers, for example. If the system is in place, the company would have to abide by the rules - and if Gamestop decides to go against that, they might lose exclusives, new copies of the game, etc.

But yeah - that's just in theory. I am sure it's in the interest of everyone that the companies just opt into used gaming like standard.

No chance in hell. If Gamestop is selling used games, there will always be new games in their stores. A publisher would never do that, unless they were dumb. They want to stop used games sales, but if used games are being sold in stores, they want their new games in the stores as well.

Game stores have issues with publishers all the time. EA can choose to no longer let a store sell their games, they did it to Gamestation for a while.

[Skummy]

And Nintendo are doing pretty much the same thing to HMV now. Depending on the deal between the store and the supplier it isn't always as straightforward as "they need stores selling their product".

[Dan]

Wasn't that because GAME hadn't paid them in ages?

[RPS]

EA can choose to do whatever, but it is a stupid move and they won't do it unless they know they can put used game stores out of business. Publishers hate used game sales, but they also know the value of shelf space and of making your games accessible. If Gamestation has stores open and is selling used games, EA is going to want to be in that store with their new products.

[Pizza]

That's basically what EA was doing with their online pass for multiplayer, yeah.

Yeah, my thinking is there's nothing stopping them from putting this in place for single player games. That seems more likely than threatening game stores or just not putting games out for PS4.

[TKz]

Best one.

[TKz]

[Skummy]

This is the best part of E3 for me so far. Clear winner. I've watched it about ten times, and I'll be singing the theme song for weeks.

[Colly]

I want to play Mad Max. Yesterday.

[EWB's Best Poster.]

I want to play Mad Max. Yesterday.

I want it and its many sequels so I can play it for infinity and beyond....

Thunderdome