Chris2K Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 Good grief that was dull. It's more exciting off track where initially Max, and now the entire Red Bull team, are boycotting any media engagements with Sky because Ted Kravitz said that Lewis was "robbed" at Abu Dhabi last year during the US Grand Prix race notebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
METALMAN Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 wow. Not a vintage season for F1. Plenty of arcane off-track issues and mostly boring races. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonM Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Chris2K said: Good grief that was dull. It's more exciting off track where initially Max, and now the entire Red Bull team, are boycotting any media engagements with Sky because Ted Kravitz said that Lewis was "robbed" at Abu Dhabi last year during the US Grand Prix race notebook. Poor wording on Ted's part but he's not wrong. Lewis got robbed last year by a race control that was out of control. Not the fault of red bull or Max, but it'll be a blemish for a while. But the sensitivity of their reaction does show that they have a very thin skin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobfoc Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 I remember when pundits were saying that the rule changes would make this year's season more exciting. I think 2015 was the last season that was anywhere near this predictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonM Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 6 hours ago, JasonM said: Poor wording on Ted's part but he's not wrong. Lewis got robbed last year by a race control that was out of control. Not the fault of red bull or Max, but it'll be a blemish for a while. But the sensitivity of their reaction does show that they have a very thin skin. Having read some more into it, I retract part of my statement because there was apparently pundits saying on Friday that Verstappen should be stripped of last year's title, and thats honestly way out of line and thoroughly unprofessional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
METALMAN Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 The Abu Dhabi stuff is silly but It is quite remarkable that Red Bull are the only team that breached the cost cap regulations but still try to portray themselves as the victims. If they want to break the rules people aren’t going to like that. They have to be big boys and suck it up! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonM Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 2 hours ago, METALMAN said: The Abu Dhabi stuff is silly but It is quite remarkable that Red Bull are the only team that breached the cost cap regulations but still try to portray themselves as the victims. If they want to break the rules people aren’t going to like that. They have to be big boys and suck it up! Oh I agree on that, tbh. It's a lot of noise anyways. Christian Horner especially is a shit stirring prick who can only talk with the backhand, but who is quick to victimize himself and his team when people come back at him. The cap breach was deliberate, worker amenities being what put them over is just a strategical way to make the FIA look like anti-worker assholes for enforcing the rules everyone agreed to. It's them testing the waters to see what they can get away with, and what precedent will be set. Losing testing privileges is a 'decent' punishment, but it's not a particularly great one for a team that is already pretty set in their position at the top of the order who already experience diminishing returns compared to smaller teams. I hate Red Bull mainly because they use the same playbook as say Barcelona and Real Madrid, teams that never truly experienced hardships who portray themselves the perpetual victim of every minor thing that goes against them, weaponize their fanbases to strike against anybody who draw their ire, and are bad losers and even worse winners. And they look for every opportunity to bend and break the rules they agreed upon to suit themselves, whilst lobbying hard to punish everyone underneath them for doing the same. On track, they're great, they deserve the success they fought for, but it didn't take long for whatever humility they learned to evaporate and the fumes to go straight to their head again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2K Posted October 31, 2022 Report Share Posted October 31, 2022 3 hours ago, JasonM said: The cap breach was deliberate, worker amenities being what put them over is just a strategical way to make the FIA look like anti-worker assholes for enforcing the rules everyone agreed to. It's them testing the waters to see what they can get away with, and what precedent will be set. Just to emphasise this, the man who almost certainly had the biggest input in the design of the 2022 car that has won 16 races, the drivers championship (with their other driver 2nd) and the constructors championship, is not included in Red Bull's budget (that they exceeded) because Adrian Newey is not a Red Bull employee, his contract states he is only a consultant. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Lineker Posted November 1, 2022 Author Admin Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 Thus paving the way for Hulk to take the final drive at Haas. Surely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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METALMAN Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 That is like setting up a race in Marseille and calling it the Corsica Grand Prix 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lusophone Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 Or holding a race at Imola and calling it the San Marino GP? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobfoc Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 3 hours ago, MadJack said: Or holding a race at Imola and calling it the San Marino GP? And having the Luxembourg GP at the Nurburgring. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2K Posted November 11, 2022 Report Share Posted November 11, 2022 I am so ready for a Kevin Magnussen pole. PLEASE KEEP RAINING! Also, more fine tactical tyre work from Ferrari. HE GOT IT!!! Now for the sprint race to make it all worthless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted November 11, 2022 Report Share Posted November 11, 2022 Amazing scenes in the Haas garage. That is quite something to see Magnussen on pole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazz Posted November 11, 2022 Report Share Posted November 11, 2022 I saw Haas announce on Twitter that KMag was on pole and I assumed it was a blue-ticked parody account taking the piss. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twist Posted November 11, 2022 Report Share Posted November 11, 2022 I wonder when the last time a team had cars starting from pole and last purely based on lap times (excluding penalties or crashes without a time, etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meacon Keaton Posted November 11, 2022 Report Share Posted November 11, 2022 KMag has been held up by the pack in the past. He's going to shoot out and dominate the sprint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twist Posted November 11, 2022 Report Share Posted November 11, 2022 Drive to Survive are filming K-Mag at the moment so that’ll make a lovely feel good moment for the series. And a tidy arc from Steiner’s season one frustrations with him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meacon Keaton Posted November 11, 2022 Report Share Posted November 11, 2022 Just now, Twist said: Drive to Survive are filming K-Mag at the moment so that’ll make a lovely feel good moment for the series. And a tidy arc from Steiner’s season one frustrations with him! So just five more years and Mick gets the pole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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