Schlitzbrille Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 Can't wait for the 52 race calendar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnar hendershow Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 I'm curious if anyone's done a breakdown of when championships have been "decided" with regards to point in a season. Assuming the % of races is the same regardless of season length you're running the risk of those end-of-season "marquee" races turning into boring formalities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Chris2K said: I'm up to 2006 in my F1 re-watch, and at the opening race in Bahrain Steve Ryder and Mark Blundell were discussing how the calendar was getting too crowded and it would be having a big effect on the teams being away from home for so long. That was an 18 race calendar. How does one do a "rewatch" of F1? And which year did you start? I like watching the old season reviews every so often but I'm not sure I'd want to sit through whole races from past eras personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2K Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 Mostly the F1 TV subscription with the Internet Archive of RaceFans.net filling in any full race gaps which F1 TV has (which is annoyingly frequent given they have footage of every race and yet seem reluctant to share it). The internet archive versions are usually the full ITV show, so I got to watch a lot of the legend that is Jim Rosenthal. I started in 1981 as that's when the F1 TV archive kicks in, but didn't start watching full races until the 1986 season. Since then any day that I'm not working or going out I'll watch a race in the morning. It's not always worth the time, but occasionally you get a really exciting race that comes out of nowhere. The only race I didn't watch was US 2005 with the tyre madness, but did watch the pre-race ITV show which was interesting with nobody having any idea what was going to happen. Just like when I was watching as it happened I found it a real struggle to get through 2003-04 with the Ferrari dominance, thankfully this time I at least knew it was going to get better in 2005 and just had to get through it.. I also found a site which has the one-shot qualifying sessions for 2003 which I watched as well, and that cemented my opinion that the one-shot format is the best version of qualifying. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 I loved one-shot qualifying too, and the 2003 season is one of my favourites actually, with the close title battle between three teams and one-offs like Fisichella winning in the wet in Brazil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonM Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 I also do some rewatching sporadically, and I generally stick to watching 'firsts', Alonso's first Championship, Mika in 98, 07/08/09/10 because that's probably the most random F1 ever got in terms of consecutive winners. Anything after I actively seen. Also freak races like Panis winning Monaco, and Ayrton lapping the entire field at a drenched donington, stuff like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJB Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 13 hours ago, damhausen said: I'm curious if anyone's done a breakdown of when championships have been "decided" with regards to point in a season. Assuming the % of races is the same regardless of season length you're running the risk of those end-of-season "marquee" races turning into boring formalities. 30 have gone down to the final race, 43 haven't. I've put 2022 in this list assuming Max takes the title in Suzuka. Spoiler 1950 7 7 100.00% 1951 8 8 100.00% 1956 8 8 100.00% 1958 11 11 100.00% 1959 9 9 100.00% 1962 9 9 100.00% 1964 10 10 100.00% 1967 11 11 100.00% 1968 12 12 100.00% 1974 15 15 100.00% 1976 16 16 100.00% 1981 15 15 100.00% 1982 16 16 100.00% 1983 15 15 100.00% 1984 16 16 100.00% 1986 16 16 100.00% 1994 16 16 100.00% 1996 16 16 100.00% 1997 17 17 100.00% 1998 16 16 100.00% 1999 16 16 100.00% 2003 16 16 100.00% 2006 18 18 100.00% 2007 17 17 100.00% 2008 18 18 100.00% 2010 19 19 100.00% 2012 20 20 100.00% 2014 19 19 100.00% 2016 21 21 100.00% 2021 22 22 100.00% 2000 16 17 94.12% 2009 16 17 94.12% 1987 15 16 93.75% 1988 15 16 93.75% 1989 15 16 93.75% 1990 15 16 93.75% 1991 15 16 93.75% 1975 13 14 92.86% 1980 13 14 92.86% 1970 12 13 92.31% 2018 19 21 90.48% 2019 19 21 90.48% 2017 18 20 90.00% 2005 17 19 89.47% 1953 8 9 88.89% 1977 15 17 88.24% 1995 15 17 88.24% 1961 7 8 87.50% 1978 14 16 87.50% 1985 14 16 87.50% 1993 14 16 87.50% 1973 13 15 86.67% 1979 13 15 86.67% 1955 6 7 85.71% 2013 16 19 84.21% 2015 16 19 84.21% 1972 10 12 83.33% 2020 14 17 82.35% 2022 18 22 81.82% 1960 8 10 80.00% 2011 15 19 78.95% 1954 7 9 77.78% 1966 7 9 77.78% 2004 14 18 77.78% 2001 13 17 76.47% 1952 6 8 75.00% 1957 6 8 75.00% 1969 8 11 72.73% 1971 8 11 72.73% 1963 7 10 70.00% 1965 7 10 70.00% 1992 11 16 68.75% 2002 11 17 64.71% 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 So three of the top ten earliest title wins ever were by Schumacher over a four-season span. It really was hard work growing up with that dominating Ferrari team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
METALMAN Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 I’ve watched a few from the F1TV archive but only those that are commonly regarded as “classics”. I don’t know if I could stomach some of these older races - from looking at race and qualifying results the grid spread looks absolutely massive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonM Posted September 22, 2022 Report Share Posted September 22, 2022 15 hours ago, METALMAN said: I’ve watched a few from the F1TV archive but only those that are commonly regarded as “classics”. I don’t know if I could stomach some of these older races - from looking at race and qualifying results the grid spread looks absolutely massive. It's why I always roll my eyes when there are people complaining that racing 'nowadays' isn't exciting enough, when you can count on one hand the amount of seasons that had true wheel to wheel racing. Most times it were a handful of drivers or two manufacturers driving into the sunset and the rest being lucky to pick at the scraps. The biggest difference is that nowadays there's drs and more stringent technical directives to at least keep that semblance of parity. And the reliability of cars is through the roof, meaning those good cars will get results when in the past there was always a chance of engines going poof. So the best races often were when something freakish happened to throw the grid in disarray or force drivers towards parity like a big crash or monsoon conditions 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JasonM Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 End of an era, Nicholas Latifi definitely ranks somewhere among the racing drivers of the sport. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
METALMAN Posted September 24, 2022 Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 Everyone thought he would finish 20th and he proved them wrong. Leaving on a high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobfoc Posted September 24, 2022 Report Share Posted September 24, 2022 Like Hamilton and Schumacher, he has a career haul of seven. In his case, it's points, not championships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chris2K Posted September 26, 2022 Report Share Posted September 26, 2022 That would be the only saving grace for a Singapore GP. Since the "night race" gimmick wore off, and without Flavio Briatore to create chaos, the Singapore races have a tendency to be Monaco-esque processions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
METALMAN Posted September 26, 2022 Report Share Posted September 26, 2022 I think the Singapore race looks really cool but that's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
METALMAN Posted September 28, 2022 Report Share Posted September 28, 2022 There are going to be six sprint races next season. So you've got to assume they've looked at the sprints and thought "this is great, let's do twice as many!" And I don't even hate the sprints as much as a lot of people. I don't mind them every now and then. But really? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2K Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 Max pitting on a pole lap because... fuel issues? Entertainment value? Red Bull obviously need to spend some more money to sort it out. He'll probably win tomorrow anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twist Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 2 hours ago, Chris2K said: Max pitting on a pole lap because... fuel issues? Entertainment value? Red Bull obviously need to spend some more money to sort it out. He'll probably win tomorrow anyway. They want him to win in Japan because Honda. Horner has already spoken of it as the ideal result for marketing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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