2023 NFL Off-Season thread

[Maxx]

Both easy decisions, though I am beginning to wonder if McDermott has hit his ceiling.  Starting to feel like he's settling into Andy Reid in Philly territory.

[VerbalPuke]

On 22/06/2023 at 14:38, LL! said:

They should just get rid of the excuse that it's honoring the glory years and just slap their current,  much better logo on that. 

Lol at the Lions having glory years.

[Lineker]

 

[The Buscher]

Turns out Isaiah Rodgers won a $1,000 prop bet on a teammates' over/under rushing yards.

He's already been suspended for a year and the Colts have released him.  But his career is surely over after that kind of bet.  Good job dude.

[Lineker]

 

[PantherFan22]

We are the Carolina Panthers, Adam Hills ot a TV show

Lineker. our QB has not signed ... hi's going to cost use .. Andy Dalton

[Lineker]

It'll be fine.

[Maxx]

Bryce needs as much money as possible, as quickly as possible, as he probably doesn't expect to survive more than one season.

[Lineker]

Packers president Mark Murphy did an interview where he basically straight up gave away that he knows the league are forcing the Jets to be this year's Hard Knocks team.

[Maxx]

To the surprise of no one, its the Jets for Hard Knocks this season.

And the Bucs are bringing back the creamsicle jerseys for a few games this season.

[Mick]

22 hours ago, Maxx said:

To the surprise of no one, its the Jets for Hard Knocks this season.

And the Bucs are bringing back the creamsicle jerseys for a few games this season.

Not just any game. 

 

October 15, Lions vs the Buccaneers. My birthday. Detroit was my dad's team. The very first NFL game I saw in person was the Lions and Bucs (....and the second game, for that matter, but that was the playoffs and they were in pewter and red  ).

 

Goddamn do I want to go, but fuck is it expensive. I can live without it, but it would be so fitting to go to. 

[Lineker]

 

[Lineker]

 

[Maxx]

Hopkins to the Titans for somehow less than what the Ravens gave Odell

[gunnar hendershow]

1 hour ago, Maxx said:

Hopkins to the Titans for somehow less than what the Ravens gave Odell

Winds up being right around the same after all the contract funny business is factored in. Why not more, I have no idea.

 

[The Buscher]

Giants and Saquon failed to agree to a deal by the 4 PM deadline.  Some Giants writers are saying they weren’t all that far apart, which I doubt because otherwise it would’ve gotten done.  Other writers and Saquon himself have sent the message that they weren’t particularly close.

I’m glad the Giants drew their line in the sand and that Mara didn’t force Schoen to go over his assessed value.  A talented player certainly, but RBs are largely replaceable.  It’s been proven time again around the league.  And the Giants themselves have had stints of far better run game production when Barkley was not being force-fed the ball, either through injury or game-planning.

Saquon’s agent blew it and that’s really it.  Both by not reaching a deal months ago and not reaching a deal now.  He’s got zero leverage.  A monster Saquon season just means another tag next year.

As for what happens now, Saquon is almost surely holding out, and probably won’t see the field until week 1.  And fans are fine with it, he’s a plug and play guy in this system, he doesn’t need training camp or preseason reps.  And if he chooses to hold out, he’ll cost himself nearly a million bucks a week when, again, he has no leverage.

 

[Plubby]

I was fairly sure that Saquon's numbers showed him to be the exception to the "RB's are plug-and-play" rule...but maybe i'm remembering wrong.

[The Buscher]

Nah.  I watch just about every snap of every Giants game.  Nearly all of his damage is done on a few plays a game, skewing his YPC significantly.  Many times his stat line was the product of one really long run.  I give him credit for being a home run threat whenever he goes outside the tackle box, but those in and of themselves are few and far between.  You can't only use Saquon as an outside threat or the defenses will figure it out, so that means you have to waste tons of plays having him run straight up the gut for 1.5-2 yards at a time.  His gap recognition is poor and it's been the weakest part of his game even going back to Penn State.

Matt Breida filled in at points last year and looked good.  Devontae Booker had several weeks of looking like a legit fantasy starter filling in for Saquon in 2021.  Wayne Gallman was a good hand before them etc.  All of those guys can pick up yardage at a solid clip just from a more conventional run game.

Not trying to crap too much on Saquon here.  It's not just the Giants, it's the whole league.  Jacobs and Pollard didn't get extended either.  Dalvin has been jobless for a month.  Guys like Ekeler and Henry have sounded off in the past day about how the NFL is treating RBs as replaceable, but literally every year you have low round rookie RBs coming in and being productive for cheap.  Nobody remembers the RB on most recent Super Bowl winning teams.

I don't blame these guys for being unhappy that their big paydays aren't coming anymore, but I don't see a solution either.  If the RBs want to collectively hold out or whatever that's their prerogative, but I think the union failed them by not getting the franchise tag addressed in the CBA.

[Lineker]

 

Also @GoGo Yubari can we talk about these bad boys?

 

[gunnar hendershow]

I love the Seahawks bringing back the classic look from when they weren't good, but looked good while losing. That, the Bucks Creamsicles, and the old Pats look are the all-time not reliving the glory years looks. Love them all.